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pnewton
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How about, “My dog ate my clothes.”
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Tantum_ergo
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I asked it before, I’ll ask again, just to satisfy my curiosity and please don’t take offense:
Why would anyone dress more formally to go to their job or some other outside function than they would to go to Mass? Which employer/host is more important? Which has the most value?
Why would anyone dress more formally to go to their job or some other outside function than they would to go to Mass? Which employer/host is more important? Which has the most value?
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kamz
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Ok, if that is the case I can see what you mean. but my job is a stay at home mom so I am in jeans and t-shirts all day long everyday and for others folks like me that makes the most sense, of course I wear my best and newest jeans, if they are showing wear then I will buy a new pair, I call them my church jeans, they are black and only used for church so they stay very nice and not worn out and I alternate with dress pants. My kids wear nice, clean jeans and long sleeved shirts or sweaters in the winter and I let them wear shorts in the summer, I also call these church shorts, they are bought for church use only, they are very dressy type shorts that are closer to the knees and they wear very nice shirts, could I wear a dress? I suppose I could, would I be pretending to be someone I am not? Yes, I would, and God would know that I was pretending to be someone I am not and then I’m trying to deceive God and that is also not right. God knows me best, he knows that I will dress clean and cover my body at church and my mind will be on him and him alone, not on anyone else exept dealing with my own kids, if I see someone else wearing clothes showing a bunch of skin, I will say a little prayer for them and then I’ll thank God for them, I will not judge them, oogle at them or make them unwelcome, I will give all my thought to Jesus as I hope everyone else does too.
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IrenkaJMJ
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How come it seems that church is the only place or situation where appropriate dress is questioned? No one seems to question attire for weddings, funerals,parties, dinner with the boss, family photos, etc… So many people cling to the mantra, “It’s not what you wear as long as you are there” as if we are doing the Almighty a favor by showing up to church at all. Remember that line when your kids don’t want to dress up for Grandma’s party, or some event that is important to you. 
Another thing to consider is the fact the Catholic Church is very external in expressing itself. Priests’ attire at mass, inscense, bells, candles, postures, etc… so how one dresses just follows, doesn’t it?
Another thing to consider is the fact the Catholic Church is very external in expressing itself. Priests’ attire at mass, inscense, bells, candles, postures, etc… so how one dresses just follows, doesn’t it?
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jlw
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NAIL…MEET HAMMER!How come it seems that church is the only place or situation where appropriate dress is questioned? No one seems to question attire for weddings, funerals,parties, dinner with the boss, family photos, etc… So many people cling to the mantra, “It’s not what you wear as long as you are there” as if we are doing the Almighty a favor by showing up to church at all. Remember that line when your kids don’t want to dress up for Grandma’s party, or some event that is important to you.
Another thing to consider is the fact the Catholic Church is very external in expressing itself. Priests’ attire at mass, inscense, bells, candles, postures, etc… so how one dresses just follows, doesn’t it?
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Catholic_Dude
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Oh yea whats wrong with my sackcloth? Are you guys dissing me?
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GloriaPatri4
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Nota_Bene
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I would bet that you dress in a manner for the Mass that makes you feel self conscious and more than a bit defensive…
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kamz
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Actually, when we had my parents 40th wedding anniv. I borrowed a dress from my sister as we had a mass said for them, I was a wreck, I cried while I got ready, my nylons got a run in them and I kept tugging and pulling and touching the dress to make sure it was on correct and I couldn’t walk in the heels I was wearing, I looked like a fool and instead of focusing on this beautiful mass I was messing around with this dress and the itchy slip, I was so worried people would see the big run going down my left leg in the nylons, it made me a emotional mess.
I would myself not go to church showing a bunch of skin but I feel respectful and have my mind off myself when I am wearing pants or a clean pair of jeans and a sweater or nice shirt and in the summer shorts, believe me, I am very comfortable with myself in exactly how I dress thats why I dress this way, I used to dress different, years ago, I was putting on a show for everyone but me “see me, see my nice clothes, are you all seeing this how fine it is, how much I spent on it” well, not to go into it but I had a huge wake up call and I have since refused to ever cast stones again at how anyone dresses for mass, that does not mean that you nota bene should not dress up for mass, if that is what you like by all means go for it thats awesome, that is probably how you feel your being your best and in the way I dress, that is how I feel my best, that is how I feel like I’m not taking away from anyone and I feel very confident and I am not thinking even once during the mass about “do I look ok, is this on correct,” instead my mind is focused exactly where it should be, on God.
Nota bene, I don’t have a problem with you, not at all, I am simply a person who is for everyone, if everyone came on here and said you should not dress up for mass then I would pipe up and say, hey, wait a minute, that is not for you alone to say, that is a very personal decision and vice versa, I’m a person who likes to see that each side is allowed an opinion and what I’m reading is not opinions, it starts out sounding like an opinion but quickly turns into 'would you not dress better for Jesus" that is trying to guilt someone, what I ask you, would you not do better to focus on YOU and less on Me? I just find it really amusing how a person can’t state their opinion and leave it but they want you to change to their way of thinking, thats not a good thing, we are given our own free will, you are given your free will to dress how you see fit and I am given mine, it shouldn’t need to go any farther than that, I’m only here to see that both sides are heard and that no one is left feeling like they are not welcome or worthy to be at mass for whatever reason, no if’s, and’s or but;s.
I would myself not go to church showing a bunch of skin but I feel respectful and have my mind off myself when I am wearing pants or a clean pair of jeans and a sweater or nice shirt and in the summer shorts, believe me, I am very comfortable with myself in exactly how I dress thats why I dress this way, I used to dress different, years ago, I was putting on a show for everyone but me “see me, see my nice clothes, are you all seeing this how fine it is, how much I spent on it” well, not to go into it but I had a huge wake up call and I have since refused to ever cast stones again at how anyone dresses for mass, that does not mean that you nota bene should not dress up for mass, if that is what you like by all means go for it thats awesome, that is probably how you feel your being your best and in the way I dress, that is how I feel my best, that is how I feel like I’m not taking away from anyone and I feel very confident and I am not thinking even once during the mass about “do I look ok, is this on correct,” instead my mind is focused exactly where it should be, on God.
Nota bene, I don’t have a problem with you, not at all, I am simply a person who is for everyone, if everyone came on here and said you should not dress up for mass then I would pipe up and say, hey, wait a minute, that is not for you alone to say, that is a very personal decision and vice versa, I’m a person who likes to see that each side is allowed an opinion and what I’m reading is not opinions, it starts out sounding like an opinion but quickly turns into 'would you not dress better for Jesus" that is trying to guilt someone, what I ask you, would you not do better to focus on YOU and less on Me? I just find it really amusing how a person can’t state their opinion and leave it but they want you to change to their way of thinking, thats not a good thing, we are given our own free will, you are given your free will to dress how you see fit and I am given mine, it shouldn’t need to go any farther than that, I’m only here to see that both sides are heard and that no one is left feeling like they are not welcome or worthy to be at mass for whatever reason, no if’s, and’s or but;s.
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Exporter
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kamz said:" I don’t think people should be made to feel “unwelcome” before the Blessed Sacrament. Jesus loves us for who we are…not what we wear. Only He should be judgemental"
AMEN
“UNWELCOME BEFORE THE BLESSED SACRAMENT”? How would you feel if a little old man (an organ grinder) showed up with a dog on a leash and a parrot on his shoulder? Would this man be welcome to recieve?
Just who is the Blessed Sacrament? Shouldn’t we show at least a little respect? I bet if you were going to see President Bush you’d dress up.
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Anna_Elizabeth
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Well, About Time!!!The nun that leads the choir at our church wears shorts to daily mass in the summer months, she says, God knows whats in your heart and soul and as far as we know God looks upon us as his naked children as he sees everything in us,
I am sure she would agree that the same goes for the priest - or bishop, for that matter. After all, if the way God sees us is all that matters, there certainly is no reason for the celebrant to follow any prescribed clothing order, is there?
True, some priests are showing their creativity by celebrating Mass in merely an alb and a stole, but what’s with all these other overly-rigid, overly-conformist types? It’s the time of the laity, right? OK, then: Let’s have support for more nuns in shorts!
Lucky to have such a knowledgeable nun. Ask her sometime if she has any idea of how the rituals of the Mass, the architecture of the Sanctuary and priestly Mass vestments evolved, and if such things give any clues as to how the laity should carry out its part.
They say that, unlike the case with US law, God and the Church do take ignorance into consideration.
Pray uncesasingly,
Anna
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kamz
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Exporter said:
Exporter, sorry but I quoted someone who wrote that, all I wrote was Amen so don’t bark at me, thanx
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kamz
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oops, I see you were the original poster to that and I was agreeing with you.
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GloriaPatri4
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When we go to Mass we should dress in a respectful,
perhaps even slightly subdued
manner, wearing the best we have for God.
Dress at Mass
By Jonathan S. Toborowsky
A small pamphlet spells out a golf course’s dress code clearly. On the course, “Men must wear shirts with a collar or turtleneck shirts,” “All shirts must be tucked in,” “All hats must be worn peak forward and outdoors only.” In the country club dining room, “Jacket and tie are required for gentlemen aged 17 and over at all times,” “Ladies must wear a dress, skirt, or slacks,” and no matter where you are, “Jeans, denim, and sweat clothes are not tolerated anywhere on the property.” Does this seem harsh? Do we look down on the country club’s rules? Do we worry about the need for the members and their guests to be comfortable whether on the course or sitting at table? Should the club’s owner just be happy that people are coming? Probably not; most likely people appreciate the atmosphere that is created when people are dressed up. They might even look forward to dressing up for dinner at the country club, as a fancy night out.
Can you imagine what would happen if we printed a similar card with guidelines of how to dress for Mass on Sunday? What if ushers enforced this “dress code” as diligently as the country club enforces their rules for dress? What sort of letters would we receive at the parish office? How many telephone calls would the Bishop’s office receive? What happens to our desire to dress up when it comes to Sunday Mass? Why is it that the only times we will dress a little nicer when going to church is for a baptism, a wedding, or a funeral? Sadly, it seems that the reasons people find to dress up on the Lord’s Day have more to do with where we are going after Mass than our attendance at the Mass itself. Perhaps our understanding of what truly takes place at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass has diminished in past years. So like any good gardener, rather than simply pulling the weed out, let’s attack the root.
So just what happens at Mass? Suppose an alien were to land on the church’s front lawn on a Saturday evening or Sunday morning and wander into the building to look around. In making his report home, he would perhaps think this gathering an opportunity to come together to exchange local gossip, read funny stories, and be entertained for forty-five minutes (less if you arrive late and leave early, but that’s a whole other article). Whole books have been written on the topic of understanding the Mass, so how can we keep it “short and sweet”? The Catechism of the Catholic Church gives a simple yet profoundly deep description in paragraph 1382:
The Mass is at the same time, and inseparably, the sacrificial memorial in which the sacrifice of the cross is perpetuated and the sacred banquet of communion with the Lord’s body and blood. But the celebration of the Eucharistic sacrifice is wholly directed toward the intimate union of the faithful with Christ through communion. To receive communion is to receive Christ himself who offered himself for us.
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perhaps even slightly subdued
manner, wearing the best we have for God.
Dress at Mass
By Jonathan S. Toborowsky
A small pamphlet spells out a golf course’s dress code clearly. On the course, “Men must wear shirts with a collar or turtleneck shirts,” “All shirts must be tucked in,” “All hats must be worn peak forward and outdoors only.” In the country club dining room, “Jacket and tie are required for gentlemen aged 17 and over at all times,” “Ladies must wear a dress, skirt, or slacks,” and no matter where you are, “Jeans, denim, and sweat clothes are not tolerated anywhere on the property.” Does this seem harsh? Do we look down on the country club’s rules? Do we worry about the need for the members and their guests to be comfortable whether on the course or sitting at table? Should the club’s owner just be happy that people are coming? Probably not; most likely people appreciate the atmosphere that is created when people are dressed up. They might even look forward to dressing up for dinner at the country club, as a fancy night out.
Can you imagine what would happen if we printed a similar card with guidelines of how to dress for Mass on Sunday? What if ushers enforced this “dress code” as diligently as the country club enforces their rules for dress? What sort of letters would we receive at the parish office? How many telephone calls would the Bishop’s office receive? What happens to our desire to dress up when it comes to Sunday Mass? Why is it that the only times we will dress a little nicer when going to church is for a baptism, a wedding, or a funeral? Sadly, it seems that the reasons people find to dress up on the Lord’s Day have more to do with where we are going after Mass than our attendance at the Mass itself. Perhaps our understanding of what truly takes place at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass has diminished in past years. So like any good gardener, rather than simply pulling the weed out, let’s attack the root.
So just what happens at Mass? Suppose an alien were to land on the church’s front lawn on a Saturday evening or Sunday morning and wander into the building to look around. In making his report home, he would perhaps think this gathering an opportunity to come together to exchange local gossip, read funny stories, and be entertained for forty-five minutes (less if you arrive late and leave early, but that’s a whole other article). Whole books have been written on the topic of understanding the Mass, so how can we keep it “short and sweet”? The Catechism of the Catholic Church gives a simple yet profoundly deep description in paragraph 1382:
The Mass is at the same time, and inseparably, the sacrificial memorial in which the sacrifice of the cross is perpetuated and the sacred banquet of communion with the Lord’s body and blood. But the celebration of the Eucharistic sacrifice is wholly directed toward the intimate union of the faithful with Christ through communion. To receive communion is to receive Christ himself who offered himself for us.
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kamz
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Exporter, if I was meeting President Bush like I’ve wrote before, I have a very nice pair of black dress pants from Old Navy and I have some swell tops and that would be how I would dress, President Bush is a great guy and I pray for him to be a very good leader but he is not my God so please don’t even begin to go there.
And since I’ve said it um, a hundred times on this thread and a few that were closed just like this one several months ago, first off, get people to church and then lead by example, I think my attire is just wonderful and very respectful and I never show off my skin except for wearing half sleeve shirts that go almost to my elbow, I rotate between black jeans and black dress pants and black loafers or something like that and nice shirts, I’m clean, my clothes are very clean as our my kids, but if I should notice anyone dressed less or more at church, who cares? Is that for me to judge? my goodness I hope not but I guess you have decided that it is for you to judge and you can go right ahead but as for me and my family we will serve the Lord and let him be the judge of all.
And since I’ve said it um, a hundred times on this thread and a few that were closed just like this one several months ago, first off, get people to church and then lead by example, I think my attire is just wonderful and very respectful and I never show off my skin except for wearing half sleeve shirts that go almost to my elbow, I rotate between black jeans and black dress pants and black loafers or something like that and nice shirts, I’m clean, my clothes are very clean as our my kids, but if I should notice anyone dressed less or more at church, who cares? Is that for me to judge? my goodness I hope not but I guess you have decided that it is for you to judge and you can go right ahead but as for me and my family we will serve the Lord and let him be the judge of all.
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kamz
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Gloria, that is a nice article with a nice opinion of someone, but let me ask, did the person who wrote that article get God for an interview and ask him if that was Really how God felt? If that is the case then gee, let me know right away so I can go shopping but if it is just an opinion expressed then state it as so, one persons opinion on how they would like themselves to dress.
Obviously you agree so then thats is your opinion, I’m happy that you have your opinion and that you are happy with how you dress and I’m glad that we all have the right to have our very own opinions and that God will love each of us the very same no matter how we dress, that is what is so great about our God.
Obviously you agree so then thats is your opinion, I’m happy that you have your opinion and that you are happy with how you dress and I’m glad that we all have the right to have our very own opinions and that God will love each of us the very same no matter how we dress, that is what is so great about our God.
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GloriaPatri4
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Moreover the Catechism recognizes the need for outward signs of our inward understanding of just what is happening at Mass. “Bodily demeanor (gestures, clothing) ought to convey the respect, solemnity, and joy of this moment when Christ becomes our guest” (CCC #1387). Jesus Christ himself, not a symbol, not a reminder, but the man himself, becomes substantially present in the Eucharistic host. Each time we receive Communion, our hearts should be echoing the words of the Apostle John as he recognized the risen Christ on the seashore: “It is the Lord!” Truly it is the Lord who comes to dwell within us; how can that moment cause anything but an attitude of reverence and awe? A nineteenth-century Anglican clergyman, Gerard Moultrie, once translated a Byzantine liturgical hymn from the 400s which was sung during the Divine Liturgy at the presentation of the gifts. In what could be called a musical/ecumenical move, he combined the words of a Byzantine-rite hymn with the music of a Latin-rite hymn, and we are forever indebted to him for this powerful anthem. Fr. George Rutler, writing in his 1998 work, Brightest and Best—Stories of Hymns (available from Ignatius Press), calls this hymn “a sublime antidote to the lamentable musical trivia that has so mutilated the psychology of Catholic worship as it is ordinarily encountered.” This truly is the mystery of faith:
As of old on earth he stood,
Lord of Lords in human vesture,
In the body and the blood:
He will give to all the faithful
His own self for heavenly food.
At his feet the six-winged seraph;
Cherubim with sleepless eye,
Veil their faces to the Presence,
As with ceaseless voice they cry,
“Alleluia, alleluia,
Alleluia, Lord most high.”
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Moreover the Catechism recognizes the need for outward signs of our inward understanding of just what is happening at Mass. “Bodily demeanor (gestures, clothing) ought to convey the respect, solemnity, and joy of this moment when Christ becomes our guest” (CCC #1387). Jesus Christ himself, not a symbol, not a reminder, but the man himself, becomes substantially present in the Eucharistic host. Each time we receive Communion, our hearts should be echoing the words of the Apostle John as he recognized the risen Christ on the seashore: “It is the Lord!” Truly it is the Lord who comes to dwell within us; how can that moment cause anything but an attitude of reverence and awe? A nineteenth-century Anglican clergyman, Gerard Moultrie, once translated a Byzantine liturgical hymn from the 400s which was sung during the Divine Liturgy at the presentation of the gifts. In what could be called a musical/ecumenical move, he combined the words of a Byzantine-rite hymn with the music of a Latin-rite hymn, and we are forever indebted to him for this powerful anthem. Fr. George Rutler, writing in his 1998 work, Brightest and Best—Stories of Hymns (available from Ignatius Press), calls this hymn “a sublime antidote to the lamentable musical trivia that has so mutilated the psychology of Catholic worship as it is ordinarily encountered.” This truly is the mystery of faith:
- Let all mortal flesh keep silence,
And with fear and trembling stand;
Ponder nothing earthly minded,
For with blessing in His hand
Christ our God to earth descendeth,
Our full homage to demand.
As of old on earth he stood,
Lord of Lords in human vesture,
In the body and the blood:
He will give to all the faithful
His own self for heavenly food.
At his feet the six-winged seraph;
Cherubim with sleepless eye,
Veil their faces to the Presence,
As with ceaseless voice they cry,
“Alleluia, alleluia,
Alleluia, Lord most high.”
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GloriaPatri4
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Now that we have a basic understanding of the Eucharistic sacrifice, let us explore our understanding of the Lord’s Day, known as the sabbath (from the Hebrew “Shabbat”). The tradition comes to us from the very beginning of Sacred Scripture: “And on the seventh day God finished his work which he had done, and he rested on the seventh day. . . . So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it” (Gen. 1:2-3). Centuries later it is clearly reaffirmed in the Law given to Moses: “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work; but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your manservant, or your maidservant, or your cattle, or the sojourner who is within your gates; for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it” (Exod. 19:8-11). What began as the Jewish commemoration of God’s rest after creating the universe was adopted and transferred to Sunday from the very start of the Church. In 1998, Pope John Paul II issued the Apostolic Letter Dies Domini (“Day of the Lord”), in which he beautifully explains the switch of days: “Because the Third Commandment depends upon the remembrance of God’s saving works and because Christians saw the definitive time inaugurated by Christ as a new beginning, they made the first day after the Sabbath a festive day, for that was the day on which the Lord rose from the dead. . . . In the light of this mystery, the meaning of the Old Testament precept concerning the Lord’s Day is recovered, perfected, and fully revealed in the glory which shines on the face of the risen Christ. We move from the ‘Sabbath’ to the ‘first day after the Sabbath’, from the seventh day to the first day: the dies Domini [day of the Lord] becomes the dies Christi [day of Christ]!” At this point let us note that this is by no means a uniquely “Catholic” understanding but extends to all Christian denominations. Even though we are a country which had its most basic roots grounded in the Protestant tradition, there are many terms which today seem of a bygone era which Catholics could just as easily relate to. If one spoke of “Sunday School,” everyone understood this always meant religious instruction rather than math or reading. Putting on your “Sunday best,” no matter what day of the week it really was, meant that you would wear what was normally reserved for the worship of God. What has happened to our reverence for this day? How many people remember to bring to the Sacrament of Reconciliation any sins against the Third Commandment, i.e., any unnecessary work done on the Lord’s day? Does the crisis of dysfunctional families have anything to do with our dysfunctional relationship with God? Yes, financial burdens may require wage-earners to put in extra hours on weekends to better support their families. True, there are certain occupations (health care, for example) whose very nature requires constant coverage. But as followers of Jesus Christ, even though the circumstances may prevent us, no situation should take away our understanding of Sunday as a day dedicated to the Lord. “Even in our own difficult times,” the Holy Father writes, “the identity of this day must be protected and above all must be lived in all its depth.”
Read the article in its entirety by clicking on link below
catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Homiletic/2000-06/toborowsky.html
Now that we have a basic understanding of the Eucharistic sacrifice, let us explore our understanding of the Lord’s Day, known as the sabbath (from the Hebrew “Shabbat”). The tradition comes to us from the very beginning of Sacred Scripture: “And on the seventh day God finished his work which he had done, and he rested on the seventh day. . . . So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it” (Gen. 1:2-3). Centuries later it is clearly reaffirmed in the Law given to Moses: “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work; but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your manservant, or your maidservant, or your cattle, or the sojourner who is within your gates; for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it” (Exod. 19:8-11). What began as the Jewish commemoration of God’s rest after creating the universe was adopted and transferred to Sunday from the very start of the Church. In 1998, Pope John Paul II issued the Apostolic Letter Dies Domini (“Day of the Lord”), in which he beautifully explains the switch of days: “Because the Third Commandment depends upon the remembrance of God’s saving works and because Christians saw the definitive time inaugurated by Christ as a new beginning, they made the first day after the Sabbath a festive day, for that was the day on which the Lord rose from the dead. . . . In the light of this mystery, the meaning of the Old Testament precept concerning the Lord’s Day is recovered, perfected, and fully revealed in the glory which shines on the face of the risen Christ. We move from the ‘Sabbath’ to the ‘first day after the Sabbath’, from the seventh day to the first day: the dies Domini [day of the Lord] becomes the dies Christi [day of Christ]!” At this point let us note that this is by no means a uniquely “Catholic” understanding but extends to all Christian denominations. Even though we are a country which had its most basic roots grounded in the Protestant tradition, there are many terms which today seem of a bygone era which Catholics could just as easily relate to. If one spoke of “Sunday School,” everyone understood this always meant religious instruction rather than math or reading. Putting on your “Sunday best,” no matter what day of the week it really was, meant that you would wear what was normally reserved for the worship of God. What has happened to our reverence for this day? How many people remember to bring to the Sacrament of Reconciliation any sins against the Third Commandment, i.e., any unnecessary work done on the Lord’s day? Does the crisis of dysfunctional families have anything to do with our dysfunctional relationship with God? Yes, financial burdens may require wage-earners to put in extra hours on weekends to better support their families. True, there are certain occupations (health care, for example) whose very nature requires constant coverage. But as followers of Jesus Christ, even though the circumstances may prevent us, no situation should take away our understanding of Sunday as a day dedicated to the Lord. “Even in our own difficult times,” the Holy Father writes, “the identity of this day must be protected and above all must be lived in all its depth.”
Read the article in its entirety by clicking on link below
catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Homiletic/2000-06/toborowsky.html
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kamz
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Country Club? I just had to respond to that post, I’m just a country girl from rural MN I work hard taking care of my four kids and My husband works two jobs. Do I want to be in some snotty country club? gosh no, I think those people are some uppity people who think they are better than others, of course where I live there are no country clubs, just some small cafes run by local folks where community gathers and visits and all are welcome, we have a community club and everyone is welcome regardless there too, nope, I’ll take my loving community anyday, they except you for who you are, they love you for who you are, they don’t pretend to be anything other than hard working folks made up of lots and lots of farmers, thank you Lord for my small town. 
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GloriaPatri4
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It’s not just this person’s opinion. He quotes the Catechism of the Catholic Church
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