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leo123
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that was a bad attempt to prove Catholics worship statues…really bad
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Church_Militant
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Who exactly do you think you are? No one cares a whit one way or the other and you need to not infer things that are not in evidence. It’s not my fault that you don’t know the meaning of my username…Catholics do.
I’m not cryin’ and whinin’ about anything…but I stand by my statement that the poster in question is nothing more than a hit and run troll.
BTW the way discussing the actions of the mods in the open forums is against the few rules that we do have. If you have a problem with something that they did then I suggest that you PM them, but keep that between you and the mods if ya wanna remain on here. That’s just my advice…I could care less one way or the other since you take offense at every effort we make to answer your “questions” and allege stuff that is so far afield from real Catholic belief and is answered concisely and truthfully in the ma(name removed by moderator)age library. What exactly DO you want from us? Renunciation of Catholicism and conversion to your personal version of
Christianity"?
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leo123
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The name Church militant ROCKS, so does the guy 
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Windmill
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That’s over 40 posts and the original guy has yet to re-post.
Either he’s out or he’s read these follow-ups and can’t respond.
Either he’s out or he’s read these follow-ups and can’t respond.
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jimmy
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And its the bible that will make you come back to the Church when you see that God commanded that the isrealites make statues of angels for the arc of the covenant. There are also other instances of this “idolotry” in scripture.
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Church_Militant
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Kyle, You need to find ouit what the church really taeches ans stop listening to people who don’t know what they’re talking about. Have a look at this thread that answers thei whole issue and feel free to PM me with anything that ya don’t get, OKay?
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=40742
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embertx
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"3. why worship images when it violates the 2nd commandment? "You shall not make for yourself an idol or any likeness of what is in heaven heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth.“Exodus 20:4”
If you were to take this literally and out of context then what on heaven or on earth are you doing with a computer!? What are you doing with all those pictures of your family, friends, childhood, places, pictures of the stars, under the water, etc. Pictures of your love/loved ones and don’t tell me you don’t value them. Remember there were no Kodak or computers then. Oh, what about those videos that you view and keep. I could go on…
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If you were to take this literally and out of context then what on heaven or on earth are you doing with a computer!? What are you doing with all those pictures of your family, friends, childhood, places, pictures of the stars, under the water, etc. Pictures of your love/loved ones and don’t tell me you don’t value them. Remember there were no Kodak or computers then. Oh, what about those videos that you view and keep. I could go on…
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Psalm45_9
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"idol
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*]**An image used as an object of worship. **
*]A false god.- One that is adored, often blindly or excessively.
- Something visible but without substance."
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deb1
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THe important word in this verse is Gentile. Notice that Jesus did not specify Jewish prayers. Jewish people have a series of set prayers that they say three times a day. The most important being the SHema which is the first prayer learned by a Jewish boy. Jesus, being a good Jew, would have learned this prayer and said it.
He is not criticizing saying set prayers or even repeating the same prayers. He is criticizing the Gentiles for using meaningless words. The greek work Battolego(vain repetitions) means to stutter or stammer. The Gentiles were probably not even making sense. They were apparently just babbling.
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Reepicheep
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“And Moses clearly proves that the dead are raisd to life. In the passage about the burning bush he speaks of the Lord as “the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” He is the God of the living, not of the dead.” …Luke 20: 37-38.
If Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are alive, then all in Heaven are alive, and why may we not ask the living to pray for us?
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Psalm45_9
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xxpnoisnxx said:
“O give thanks to the LORD, for he is good,
for his steadfast love endures for ever.
O give thanks to the God of gods,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever.
**O give thanks to the Lord of lords,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**to him who alone does great wonders,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**to him who by understanding made the heavens,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**to him who spread out the earth upon the waters,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**to him who made the great lights,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**the sun to rule over the day,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**the moon and stars to rule over the night,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**to him who smote the first-born of Egypt,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**and brought Israel out from among them,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**with a strong hand and an outstretched arm,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**to him who divided the Red Sea in sunder,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**and made Israel pass through the midst of it,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**but overthrew Pharaoh and his host in the Red Sea,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**to him who led his people through the wilderness,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**to him who smote great kings,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**and slew famous kings,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**Sihon, king of the Amorites,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**and Og, king of Bashan,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**and gave their land as a heritage,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**a heritage to Israel his servant,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever.
**It is he who remembered us in our low estate,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**and rescued us from our foes,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever;
**he who gives food to all flesh,
**for his steadfast love endures for ever.
**O give thanks to the God of heaven,
for his steadfast love endures for ever.” (Psalm 136)
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Psalm45_9
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Well now, that’s the whole point of God Parents.
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CatherineofA
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Links and referrals outside of your own comments, do not show a personal understanding of the topic. It shows that you can pull outside sources in to argue for you. It does not say anything about your credibility of knowledge in arguing a point of view. Such discourse involves one poster communicating with a person who cannot answer for his comments nor can he give insight into the background and intent of his comments. How do you know the accuracy of comments made by a poster if you have not examined the information for yourself? In addition, how can you critique another person’s opinions or questions, when you feel you cannot put your own views into approprriate or adequate words?
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CatherineofA
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Then link them to your OWN comments or pass over them. It is extremely difficult for people to persue a topic with a ghost writer or unavailable poster. Especially, if you are attempting to “argue” support for your own point of view. If the questions have been asked to death, the threads sure are long with posters who are tired of the repetition.
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pnewton
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Since this guy made a single post and was gone and since so much has been well answered above (each item really needed its own thread), I will answer this one.
The original poster made a simple error in logic that a child can grasp. He claims scripture contradicts Catholic teaching.
Belief + baptism = salvation
Disbelief = condemnation
Infants fit in neither category because of their age and lack of reasoning so the first scripture does not apply. Since it does not apply it can not contradict.
In the next scriptures the Ethiopian and then the men of Jerusalem were addressed. Since only one adult was addressed in the first case and infants could not grasp the concept of Peter’s teaching in the second, once again, the scripture does not apply. Since it does not apply it can not contradict.
Note this does not prove the case for infant baptism, merely that these scriptures do not contradict the teaching of the Church for the last 2000 years on the subject.
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xxpnoisnxx
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Since there have been links of info posted, i would like you to look into this link as well and give me your thoughts.
biblebelievers.com/bennett/bennett_mary-worship.html
I’m not here to make enemies or win some kind of battle…i’d just like to get a catholic’s perspective and insight as to some of the things the bible teaches and how catholicism “might” contradict it. GOD BLESS
biblebelievers.com/bennett/bennett_mary-worship.html
I’m not here to make enemies or win some kind of battle…i’d just like to get a catholic’s perspective and insight as to some of the things the bible teaches and how catholicism “might” contradict it. GOD BLESS
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Isidore_AK
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This web site misrepresents Catholic Teaching.
Many of the items posted on that site can be refuted easily,
for instance: On the chart that starts about half way through the article, it compares ‘Biblical Mary’ ‘Catholic Mary’ & ‘Moon Goddess’. One of the things it mentions is that we often depict Mary as 'Sometimes pictured standing on a crescent moon, wearing a crown or with a circle of stars around her head.'
This is taken straight from the book of revelations 12:1.
Again, the site misrepresents Catholic teaching. I will respond more tomorrow…time for bed!
xxpnoisnxx Thank you for coming back, I hope you read through the posts & links.
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gardenswithkids
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Thank you for the link and for returning to us. I’m sorry I doubted your sincerity.
Now, about that link. The person who wrote it is very familiar with the Catholic faith and yet has a twisted understanding of things. I don’t know what she experience in the convent that she left, but there were some pretty weird feminist things that tried to take over the Church years ago. I suspect she was involved in one of the groups that tried to spread heresies. If her convent promoted Mary as a goddess, I don’t blame her for leaving and speaking out against it. Many of the misperceptions about the Catholic church originates from really bad teachers within the Catholic Church, not from bad doctirines. As we await the election of a new pope, many Catholics hope the new Pope will crack down on those who spread heresies within our faith.
As I read the graph on that link,The Bible verse that stands out to me is:
“Whoever humbles himself will be exaulted” (verse?)
We read in James 4:6
“God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”
The humble mother of Jesus responds to her cousin Elizabeth by saying,
“From now on all generations shall call me blest.” (Luke 1:48)
Yes, Mary was a very humble woman–and that is the precise reason that God exaults her! It’s completely scriptural that He shall raise up the lowly and give grace to the humble. The Catholic Church only honors Mary because Jesus honors her! We exault her because He exaulted her first! We call her blest because scripture says all generations will call her blest!
May Jesus share with you what John19:27 reveals He shared with his beloved disciple. And may God bless you as you journey in faith.
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Anne_Carmel
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The forums rules do state:
Do not paste articles from web sites into a post. If you wish to reference an article on the web, link to its web address, instead.
Do not change the title of posted articles.
Messages should be short. Do not post lengthy replies (especially replies that consist largely of quotes from an earlier message).
Now back to the original topic. . . . . .
Do not paste articles from web sites into a post. If you wish to reference an article on the web, link to its web address, instead.
Do not change the title of posted articles.
Messages should be short. Do not post lengthy replies (especially replies that consist largely of quotes from an earlier message).
Now back to the original topic. . . . . .
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juno24
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I know; that is why I was agreeing with you. If someone is really looking for the answers, what better way to find them than to go to a reputable sourse?
I don’t know if it is a troll, or someone who thinks he’s got something to say which we have never heard before, but he certainly is in the right place to be set straight!
Peace be with you, too!
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