You constantly try to slip out of your claims when I call you on them.
For muslims wiping out others besides the Zorastrians - here goes:“They have wiped out so many others that I cannot remember all those of different pagan religions. Not just convert - I mean they murdered them.”
Again, when you make claims, you should back them up. Dont just make silly, unsubstantial claims. Am sure (and hopethat most of the audience here are intelligent enough to recognize a baseless claim when they see one. Among the most widely believed myths in the west today about Islam is myth of forcible conversion to Islam. It is widely believed due to the fact that Islam spread very rapidly. I will not go now into how or why Islam spread very rapidly, but I will address your unfounded claim of the forced conversion myth.
If your claim were true, can you explain to me why there is (until today) in almost every muslim country several minorities of several religions (in the millions actually). If Muslims had forced every one they conquered to convert, there would be none. Another interesting fact for you. Muslims ruled India for about 1000 years. More than 80% of the population of India is non-muslim. All these non-muslim indians are witnesses today that Islam does not force any one to convert to Islam.
" Because with muslims lobbing bombs into Israel on a daily basis and too often aiming at children’s schools - that couldn’t be what you are claiming is it?! That it is ok for muslims to do that?!"
It appears that you are very ignorant about the above subject. According to INTERNATIONAL LAW, ie, UNITED NATIONS (I personally do not support or recognize UN, but reference it here on the assumption that you do), Israel occupation of Palestinian land is ILLEGAL, building of Israeli settlements on Palestinian land is ILLEGAL and there has been alot of UN mandates and resolutions ordering Israel to a) pull out of palestinian land, and b) to stop building settlements on Palestinian land, yet they continue to do so. And lat time I checked, for every 1 Israeli civilian that dies, 6 Palestinians civilians die (check the death stats on both sides yourself if you dont believe me). And dont even get me started on Israel war with Lebanon, where more than 1000 civilians where killed.
"The above article on hezbollah stockpiling and tripled its weapon count since 2006. "
So what??? Every country in the world has and is stock piling weapons.
"And the palestinians have not only gotten better bombs - but more of them too. There are articles to back that up too. "
So what ??? Palestinians are fighting the most just war on earth (and Iraq too). They are fighting against a foreign country invading their land. Since when has that become illegal ?? am sure if another country invaded your country, you would consider it your right to fight for your land, so why deny other people the same right?
Islam has been guilty of all those things since Muhammad founded it! That is Islam’s way.
Jesus’ kingdom is not from this world. He is the judge of mankind, and He is gonna return to judge the living and the dead at the end of times.
yes, very fair…but the problem does not stop here because both the Quran and hadith do not present the standards we are taught by Jesus…paying jizya with humiliation will always be humiliation, these are the words of the Quran and nothing will turn them into a blessing or a peaceful approach…we are infidels who will rot in hell will never turn to be “brotherhood love”…killing infidels, apostates ecc are in the hadith…who is an infidel, when to kill, who to kill, are up to Islamic standards and there is no authority in Islam…
The muslims stole land from Jews and Christians for 1400 years - what about that land? I know the muslims will ignore this.
I don’t think it is evil in nature, but it is human nature and things were pretty basic 3000 years ago. Being or having a slave in the OT I think falls in two categories; the willing slave and the unwilling slave. The treatment of a slave also falls into two categories; fair or unfair. Moses was a willing slave who sold 14 years of his service for 2 wives. Joseph was a unwilling slave in Egypt sold by his brothers.
If we are capable/willing to kill each other as Cain demonstrates anything else is just a shade of the same sin God warned Our Parents about. Willing or unwilling, God I think wants us to be fair. We are making our own choices.
God was/is serious. I think He was putting the Jews through a purification process for a reason.
They really go to great lengths to make reality obscure. Whatever the ‘true’ intent the example of Mohammed in hadith is valid to the vast majority of Muslims but I don’t think the ‘true’ intent of Mohammed was as described there but as practiced for centuries.
Who is them and would you (if Muslim) give them charity? Mohammed was not the type to give a man he intended on killing safe passage or comfort.
I’m curious why you said it was a positive aspect of Islam then?
How widespread that idea is within Islam I don’t know but I don’t agree with the conclusion the author draws in that ‘Hell is the sinners friend or mother’. The problem is Muslims still want to help the unbeliever get purified in hell ASAP.
They still use the Qur’an as the basis of their faith. Because the Koran speaks in the name of the God of Abraham I reject every single word of it since I have concluded it is not and Mohammed is not a prophet. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to reason with what is rejected not just on faith, but the historical record is about as right as the BOM so its rejected on data as well.
I try very hard to stick to the teachings of Islam. I don’t know why I would look to a Moromon to accuse Islam, but if they used the Quran as justification to commit terrorism I would. It is fair to look at the actions of the Christians in the context of Scripture. Eric Rudolph did his bit in the name of Jesus supposedly pretty much like UBL did his in the name of allah and his prophet. The scripture of Jesus refutes Rudolph’s actions, but Mohameds scripture supports UBL.
inJesus this is not right. If you are a believing and practicing christian, you will not be harmed. paying Jizyah is no problem. It is for your security and safety and for the safety of few muslims living in the christian controlled lands. So that they are not harmed.
I believe you Planten. The problem is some other muslims don’t. And they also claim to act of behalf of Allah, claim their actions are legal as per Quran basis. That is a problem of leaderless situation, and what comes worse, your Quran as interpreted as it is, give ways to do so.
You are repeating your already rebutted arguments and becoming no different than a broken record. The Koran teaches that for Allah there is ONE true religion, which is neither Christianity nor Judaism, but Islam! According to your scripture, Allah promised that his true religion would prevail against all the other religions on earth. According to the same book of yours, Muslims are commanded to fight ALL non-Muslims no matter how peaceful and kind Jews and Christians might be among them. The Koran never makes a distinction when it asks Muslims to fight and humiliate those that do not turn to Islam.
According to your book, even a Jewish or Christian saint is considered an infidel as long as he/she does not believe in Mohammad and Koran.
from hadith of Sahih Bukhari:
While we were in the mosque, Allah's Apostle came out to us and said, "Let us proceed to the Jews." So we went along with him till we reached Bait-al-Midras (a place where the Torah used to be recited and all the Jews of the town used to gather). **The Prophet stood up and addressed them, "O Assembly of Jews! Embrace Islam and you will be safe!**" The Jews replied, "O Aba-l-Qasim! You have conveyed Allah's message to us." The Prophet said, "That is what I want (from you)." He repeated his first statement for the second time, and they said, "You have conveyed Allah's message, O Aba-l-Qasim." Then he said it for the third time and added, "You should Know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to exile you fro,,, this land, so whoever among you owns some property, can sell it, **otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."** (See Hadith No. 392, Vol. 4)Narrated 'Ali:
Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. **So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."**
Booklover, please read some good books and find out the truth and use your brain too to sift falsehood from truth.