Catholics for Muslims

[qwerk]

Wow, I think that God heard me and sent me one of my fellow ‘truth tellers’ about Islam and he sent me this video about what a former Muslim says about Islam. God is NOT the God of Abraham, she tells of the lack of freedom for her being a Muslim women in a Muslim country. Wafa Sultan.

She talks of creeping Sharia and the consequences of it. She talks about America, but this goes for all countries.

If one wants to listen to a former Muslim talk about Allah - this is the guy!

 

[Steven_John]

What has fear to do with criticizing Islam? What does compassion have to do with criticizing Islam? …

Please try to keep up Br. Tepo wrote what i was responding to not you.
I pray G-d bless and guide you

 

[qwerk]

Please try to keep up Br. Tepo wrote what i was responding to not you.
I pray G-d bless and guide you

Yep, a lot of love, dove and peace here. Yep.

If the Quran is only for Arabs, then it isn’t for everyone. That is such an old excuse that one has to speak Arabic to read the Quran. Is that what some Muslim(s) have told you? It says that in Sharia laws. Why are you following their Sharia laws? Muslims want us to submit to Sharia laws but we are not Muslim and to do so is idiocy on our part, and utter gall on their parts.

Tell them that it isn’t universal or from God then. Why would God pick a language that few people spoke at the time?

Why do you think that in order to get along with a people we should accept lies and think it is ok to do so? If we did that to anyone else you better believe that we would be put in our place.

 

[Mosacked]

Firstly, let’s remind ourselves of this.

1 John 2:22 Who is the Liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Messiah. Such a man is the Antichrist—he denies the Father (God) and the Son (Jesus). Luke 16:16 The Law and the Prophets were until John the Baptist.

The bible defined for us who is the Anti-Christ. And it clearly points to islam…

Now, a defender of islam who claims to be on the same side as Christ is telling us to show charity to the followers of the Anti-Christ because of Christ’s teachings.

There is some truth in this because Jesus did say to do good and love your enemies. But note this. YOUR enemies. NOT God’s enemies.

In the Armageddon, God will mobilize His kingdom in a WAR against the Anti-Christ. But if anyone thinks that during this war, he/she is to show charity to the enemy to win him/her over, let him or her do so without fear of punishment from God because it is afterall, God’s Battle. What you do or not do to the enemy will not result in a permanent benefit or damage.

All that we are required to do is STAND FOR THE TRUTH. (The battle for good and evil was already over the day that Christ died on the cross for our sins).

“BE STILL AND KNOW THAT I AM GOD”

muslimsopenyoureyes.blogspot.com

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[qwerk]

Firstly, let’s remind ourselves of this.

1 John 2:22 Who is the Liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Messiah. Such a man is the Antichrist—he denies the Father (God) and the Son (Jesus). Luke 16:16 The Law and the Prophets were until John the Baptist.

The bible defined for us who is the Anti-Christ. And it clearly points to islam…

Now, a defender of islam who claims to be on the same side as Christ is telling us to show charity to the followers of the Anti-Christ because of Christ’s teachings.

There is some truth in this because Jesus did say to do good and love your enemies. But note this. YOUR enemies. NOT God’s enemies.

In the Armageddon, God will mobilize His kingdom in a WAR against the Anti-Christ. But if anyone thinks that during this war, he/she is to show charity to the enemy to win him/her over, let him or her do so without fear of punishment from God because it is afterall, God’s Battle. What you do or not do to the enemy will not result in a permanent benefit or damage.

All that we are required to do is STAND FOR THE TRUTH.

“BE STILL AND KNOW THAT I AM GOD”

muslimsopenyoureyes.blogspot.com

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I never looked at it that way - our human enemies vs God’s enemies.

 

[Steven_John]

Yep, a lot of love, dove and peace here. Yep.

yes you are right, i appologise

 

[planten]

Firstly, let’s remind ourselves of this.

1 John 2:22 Who is the Liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Messiah. Such a man is the Antichrist—he denies the Father (God) and the Son (Jesus). Luke 16:16 The Law and the Prophets were until John the Baptist.

Who said that? No reference. Perhaps it is the teaching of John and not Jesus, John who is considered by many as a gentile.

Do you say that Jesus was a not a prophet?? Say it clearly so that every one can understand that Jesus was not a prophet of God and he was not That Prophet. Say it6 please.

The bible defined for us who is the Anti-Christ. And it clearly points to islam

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The bible told you clearly to beware of false prophets, who will come in the name of Jesus. Muhammad never came in the name of Jesus. He came in the name of the God Almighty. So bible can’t be pointing to Islam.

Now, a defender of islam who claims to be on the same side as Christ is telling us to show charity to the followers of the Anti-Christ because of Christ’s teachings.

There is some truth in this because Jesus did say to do good and love your enemies. But note this. YOUR enemies. NOT God’s enemies.

I do not know who is that defender but who I know who is the offender here who is using the name of Jesus against the teachings of love from Jesus.

What is thsi about your enemies or God’s enemies. Are your enemies differnet to God’s enemies?? And why did Jesus not guide you about the God’s enemies?? Are you wiser than Jeuss?

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All that we are required to do is STAND FOR THE TRUTH. (The battle for good and evil was already over the day that Christ died on the cross for our sins).

Perhaps I told you not to stand up. You should sit down or lye down and be comfrotable please. do not cause any undue damage to any one. Your preaching will be alright. But this standing up will like the Jihadi movements in Islam.

“BE STILL AND KNOW THAT I AM GOD”

Who said that???

 

[Steven_John]

Who is G-ds enemy and how does He treat them.

Its a can of worms, first G-d allows His enemy’s to continue to exist. He can just say and they are gone.

He has done this in biblical history.

In contrast humans through lack of faith or having compassion don’t speak their enemies away.

So G-ds enemy and humans enemy are the same but he treats them in a way the world would not.

He is most merciful as are His.

Yeshua (pbwh) on the cross when the soldiers are ripping his priestly garment up asks The Father to forgive them because they dont understand what they are doing.

Yes they were told and told but still they did not hear in the heart and were acting very badly.

If Yeshua (pbwh) is patient and calls for mercy until the last day what am i called to do?

 

[spn82756]

Who said that? No reference. Perhaps it is the teaching of John and not Jesus, John who is considered by many as a gentile.

What the heck does being a gentle have to do with anything.

Gal 2:28There is no longer Jew or Gentile,o slave or free, male and female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Now in islam there is kafir. I am one. In Christianity there are heretics…you are one.

 

[qwerk]

Who is G-ds enemy and how does He treat them.

Its a can of worms, first G-d allows His enemy’s to continue to exist. He can just say and they are gone.

He has done this in biblical history.

In contrast humans through lack of faith or having compassion don’t speak their enemies away.

So G-ds enemy and humans enemy are the same but he treats them in a way the world would not.

He is most merciful as are His.

Yeshua (pbwh) on the cross when the soldiers are ripping his priestly garment up asks The Father to forgive them because they dont understand what they are doing.

Yes they were told and told but still they did not hear in the heart and were acting very badly.

If Yeshua (pbwh) is patient and calls for mercy until the last day what am i called to do?

I think that you are really mixed up. You push some weird idea of love while endangering people’s souls with falsehoods as if they are true. That is not love. Love is putting forth the energy to ensure that you put forward the correct message. Your idea of love might make you feel good, but it isn’t love.

Jesus never put forward a bunch of lies as if they are the truth. He made very clear what the truth is and it isn’t Islam, Allah or Muhammad. He never endangered our souls. Remaining ignorant about Islam because they have told you that you have to read Arabic is just playing into their hands. They have approved translations that are actually ‘watered down’, and they are still vile.

 

[planten]

What the heck does being a gentle have to do with anything.

John being a gentile (non-Jew) has much to do with your religion.

Gal 2:28There is no longer Jew or Gentile,o slave or free, male and female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Who wrote that. The above are not the words of Jesus. They are the words of a wolf in sheeps clothing. That is the problem with the protestants. They have made Jesus as God beside The God. Not only that, the church has taken many more Lords beside The God and beside The Jesus.

Why any one should run to the words of others beside Jesus?? Is Jesus not enough for all of you??

Now in islam there is kafir. I am one. In Christianity there are heretics…you are one.

That is not true. To me you are not Kafir unless you want to be one.

In Islam, Kafir is the one whom the right message was given and he/she denied the message. Kafir is the enemy of Moses and Jesus and Muhammad.

In your system, there are many heretics of the basic christian parties including the Protestants and the JW’s and the Mormons and the… ad infinitum…

 

[spn82756]

John being a gentile (non-Jew) has much to do with your religion.

Who wrote that. The above are not the words of Jesus. They are the words of a wolf in sheeps clothing. That is the problem with the protestants. They have made Jesus as God beside The God. Not only that, the church has taken many more Lords beside The God and beside The Jesus.

Why any one should run to the words of others beside Jesus?? Is Jesus not enough for all of you??

That is not true. To me you are not Kafir unless you want to be one.

In Islam, Kafir is the one whom the right message was given and he/she denied the message. Kafir is the enemy of Moses and Jesus and Muhammad.

In your system, there are many heretics of the basic christian parties including the Protestants and the JW’s and the Mormons and the… ad infinitum…

I am against mohammad. He denied the Divinity of Christ. That makes me a Christian and kafi. I know that Gabriel told Mary she would have the Son of God. The Word made Flesh. The Great I Am.

I believe the angel that mohammad spoke to was either Satan or one of Satan’s demons.

 

[qwerk]

I am against mohammad. He denied the Divinity of Christ. That makes me a Christian and kafi. I know that Gabriel told Mary she would have the Son of God. The Word made Flesh. The Great I Am.

I believe the angel that mohammad spoke to was either Satan or one of Satan’s demons.

I think that many of planten’s posts are just downright weird.

He wrote, ‘who wrote that?’ after you gave him the reference information so he could look it up himself?

I wonder why he is on a Catholic forum if he doesn’t have, or won’t even go online, and look at a Bible.

What is the big deal between Protestants and Catholics?

Islam is based on lies, an Angel that lied, an Allah that lies, a Muhammad that lied and ok’d lying, and followers that lie to advance Islam because Muhammad told them to lie.

Lucifer, the Prince of Lies.

God told us he would not lie to us. Titus 1:2 and Hebrews:

**“Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope offered to us may be greatly encouraged.” **Hebrews 6:17-18

 

[Steven_John]

G-day Qwerk peace and blessings to you.

I think that you are really mixed up.

So you say but you also say i am a Muslim posings as a Christian and an Ignorant Christian.
This was another, i said

You have pulled me up in another thread for moving from the topic, your personal challenges here seem to leave this topic.

you said this

As for interrupting you from another thread, wow - you got to be kidding
. What are you on about?

Sorry but there are other examples so with respect i dont take it to heart when you say i am mixed up but do admit your off topic posting does mix me well.

In reflection i could have responded

Yep, a lot of love, dove and peace here. Yep.

or maybe questioned are you in the way of Jesus and think he was this confused. But neither would have been nice as you have pointed out. I am sure we both would agree Yeshua (pbwh) was not confused as we see each other as.

For what it is worth i am a work in progress not a finished one. From your posts i discern you might be the same.

You push some weird idea of love while endangering people’s souls with falsehoods as if they are true

. Here we go again what false hood have i said is true?

Love is putting forth the energy to ensure that you put forward the correct message.

Amen that is true and again quote where i have said this is wrong, i have tried to encourage people to build relationship to do this.

Your idea of love might make you feel good, but it isn’t love.

No again you seem to know me so well but are so wrong love is a verb not a feeling. Feelings are in the most part a very poor guide.

Jesus never put forward a bunch of lies as if they are the truth.

so you say but can you quote me

He made very clear what the truth is and it isn’t Islam, Allah or Muhammad. He never endangered our souls.

quote me where i said Islam is truth its your soap box.
Remaining arrogant to Muslims because you have told me that you have to read anti Islam web sites is just playing what you claim is of wrong with them.

They have approved translations that are actually ‘watered down’,

Yay a break through English does not truly represent Arabic.

Aurther John Arburry seems to be the best i have found so far (note i have not read in detail his full translation), what do you think?
Or from your degree / study for 10 or 12 years do you interoperate the Quran for your self?
I dont know much about America but here in Australia lots who have studied as long as you are Uni lectures, not all of course. Are you lecturing in Islamic studies? Are the Muslims you work with in the same department?

Blessings to you and yours

 

[Mosacked]

I think that you are really mixed up. You push some weird idea of love while endangering people’s souls with falsehoods as if they are true. That is not love. Love is putting forth the energy to ensure that you put forward the correct message. Your idea of love might make you feel good, but it isn’t love.

Jesus never put forward a bunch of lies as if they are the truth. He made very clear what the truth is and it isn’t Islam, Allah or Muhammad. He never endangered our souls. Remaining ignorant about Islam because they have told you that you have to read Arabic is just playing into their hands. They have approved translations that are actually ‘watered down’, and they are still vile.

Qwerk, know where to throw your pearls.

muslimsopenyoureyes.blogspot.com

 

[qwerk]

Qwerk, know where to throw your pearls.

muslimsopenyoureyes.blogspot.com

Thanks Mosacked. I was told to know when to give up and I think that you and the person who told me that are absolutely correct.

 

[Steven_John]

Praise be to G-d for His goodness we shared.

Blessings to you both pray well and stay well.

 

[planten]

I am against mohammad. He denied the Divinity of Christ. That makes me a Christian and kafi. I know that Gabriel told Mary she would have the Son of God. The Word made Flesh. The Great I Am.

I believe the angel that mohammad spoke to was either Satan or one of Satan’s demons.

You can keep up with your bad beliefs as much as you like, as long as you do not act on your bad beliefs. Jesus did not teach any hatred. The moment he said “Love thy enemies.” that was the end of all hatred. You are not acting on the advice of Jesus. So we know that you are in fact preaching something against the Jesus teachings of love.

We do not care for any of your words.

We will not do anything to harm you. God will look after you after your death.

 

[qwerk]

You can keep up with your bad beliefs as much as you like, as long as you do not act on your bad beliefs. Jesus did not teach any hatred. The moment he said “Love thy enemies.” that was the end of all hatred. You are not acting on the advice of Jesus. So we know that you are in fact preaching something against the Jesus teachings of love.

We do not care for any of your words.

We will not do anything to harm you. God will look after you after your death.

I have never read such a veiled admittance that Islam is indeed about violence. ‘we will not do anything to harm you’! What the heck is that!?!?

I don’t remember Jesus ever telling us to lie in order to appease someone. Can you point out in the Bible where it says we should lie in order to appease someone?

 

[Steven_John]

Well before some protestants moved in the thread had some good discussion.

Now it has gone the way of so many other threads.

Shame on me for responding to off topic discussion.

Would the fight against Muslims not work better on an an Islamic site. I am serious and not poking at you. Assuming what is offered here about Muslims is all true there would be lots of sites that love the chance to argue with Protestants and you would have more than one Muslim to argue with?
At the moment you get like one or two Muslims if you are lucky and loads of Christians to watch your show.
If you are doing Our G-ds work and you don’t need people to support or watch you, you would do more there than here so does He want you to do less than you are capable?

The questions are for your reflection you dont need to answer me, I am not real good with English so at times type as i think, sorry