Catholics...For Your Advise.

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Anna,

believe me when I tell you that human teachers will bring you to ruin.

If you are taught by another human it only means one of 2 things or both.

1 - You lost contact with God and needed this person to tell you. (eg. David by Nathan)
2 - You have been deceived and not speaking to God.

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Which means that we can only conclude one thing; that since you do not desire to be enlightened/taught/informed about Catholicism that these questions you asked were loaded and were truly insincere.

God bless
 
Who was St. Paul writing to, and teaching?

Right! 🙂
Then I must say that jmcrae, you are wrestling logic out of their boundaries and making even the toes laugh. Would you need to teach the anointed??? The anointed of God…do not need you to teach them. You must be out of your mind.

You’re telling us you want to TEACH the Sons of God?

You can deceive those who are meant to be deceived, but none of those who belong to God can ever be touched.
 
Which means that we can only conclude one thing; that since you do not desire to be enlightened/taught/informed about Catholicism that these questions you asked were loaded and were truly insincere.

God bless
…I am looking for answers… not here to be enlightened by you. Do you know the difference?
 
Then I must say that jmcrae, you are wrestling logic out of their boundaries and making even the toes laugh. Would you need to teach the anointed??? The anointed of God…do not need you to teach them. You must be out of your mind.

You’re telling us you want to TEACH the Sons of God?

You can deceive those who are meant to be deceived, but none of those who belong to God can ever be touched.
Is it your opinion that the Apostle Paul was an arrogant idiot and a deceiver?
 
Then I must say that jmcrae, you are wrestling logic out of their boundaries and making even the toes laugh. Would you need to teach the anointed??? The anointed of God…do not need you to teach them. You must be out of your mind.

You’re telling us you want to TEACH the Sons of God?

You can deceive those who are meant to be deceived, but none of those who belong to God can ever be touched.
what is it with you and this verse? you seemed to be hung up in one verse of the Bible and not want anything to do with the rest of the Bible.

do you not know that our Lord says: Faith comes by hearing the Word of God? is this not saying that we must hear the Word? who tought you the Word? or you found this verse and suddenly assumed that you dont need to hear the Word? what is your problem?
 
…I am looking for answers… not here to be enlightened by you. Do you know the difference?
According to my* Merriam-Webster *dictionary; to be enlightened is to be, “freed from ignorance and misinformation”. I am not surprised that you do not wish to be freed from such short comings. I just didn’t think you would be so open about it…

If I teach you something does that make me a teacher?
believe me when I tell you that human teachers will bring you to ruin.
If you are taught by another human it only means one of 2 things or both.
1 - You lost contact with God and needed this person to tell you. (eg. David by Nathan)
2 - You have been deceived and not speaking to God.
God bless you
 
According to my* Merriam-Webster *dictionary; to be enlightened is to be, “freed from ignorance and misinformation”. I am not surprised that you do not wish to be freed from such short comings. I just didn’t think you would be so open about it…

If I teach you something does that make me a teacher?

God bless you
MOS Sorry but you muss this by 100 miles
 
…I am looking for answers… not here to be enlightened by you. Do you know the difference?
As Saul he could not see the truth, but after an experience of Christ ressurected Paul’s eyes were open to the truth. He then became what he persecuted.

Do you know the difference between Saul and Paul?

Do you need to be knocked off of your horse my brother?
 
As Saul he could not see the truth, but after an experience of Christ ressurected Paul’s eyes were open to the truth. He then became what he persecuted.

Do you know the difference between Saul and Paul?

Do you need to be knocked off of your horse my brother?
 
As Saul he could not see the truth, but after an experience of Christ ressurected Paul’s eyes were open to the truth. He then became what he persecuted.

Do you know the difference between Saul and Paul?

Do you need to be knocked off of your horse my brother?
I think what Mosacked needs is a clear understanding of what the word “anointing” means.

Perhaps he will grace us all, though, and try to teach us what it means.
 
…I am looking for answers… not here to be enlightened by you. Do you know the difference?
Perhaps, then, you can give us the questions you may have. We may be able to teach you the answers.

I am sure that the Catholics posting on this thread who have been anointed at their baptism and at their confirmation can help you.
 
  • I still don’t see why there’s a need for me to speak to my Father through somebody else when I can speak to Him directly and clearly, or have someone or some people convey messages that they claim is from Him. Perhaps if I cannot speak to Him, I may resort to the latter, but I’m not in that situation.
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Question: Are you not a Christian? Do you not go through Christ to God the Father? Is Christ no intercessor for you?

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As Saul he could not see the truth, but after an experience of Christ ressurected Paul’s eyes were open to the truth. He then became what he persecuted.

Do you know the difference between Saul and Paul?

Do you need to be knocked off of your horse my brother?
Yup,Lapey, for that kind it will take a Saul of Tarsus experience.:rolleyes:;):)Carlan
 
Then I must say that jmcrae, you are wrestling logic out of their boundaries and making even the toes laugh. Would you need to teach the anointed??? The anointed of God…do not need you to teach them. You must be out of your mind.
Tell me - why was St. Paul writing them letters? For the sake of his health? 🤷

I am anointed, by the way, by every definition out there. I was anointed with the gift of tongues when I completed a LIfe in the Spirit program. I was anointed at my Confirmation by the Bishop. I have spoken face to face with the Risen Christ.

None of these things mean that I don’t need good teachers. They enabled my mind to be opened to be able to receive good teaching. But they didn’t automatically infuse my mind with knowledge - I still had to listen to good teachers and read good books. But if any of these things had puffed me up with pride, or caused me to think that I no longer need to listen to the Church, that would have been the sure evidence of a false anointing - something from the Devil.
 
Mosacked, if you are a non-Christian then please tell me so. Otherwise I am assuming you are a Christian:

Luke 1: 39-45 In those days Mary arose and went with haste into the hill country, to a city of Judah, and she entered the house of Zechari’ah and greeted Elizabeth. And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For behold, when the voice of your greeting came to my ears, the babe in my womb leaped for joy. And blessed is she who believed that there would be a fulfilment of what was spoken to her from the Lord.”

How do you personally and honestly interpret this passage form Sacred Scripture especially the expression “mother of my Lord” given the fact that the angel said “the Lord is with you” in Luke 1:28 to Mary earlier in Sacred Scripture?

When I read your first post about Theotokos I honestly thought you were a non-Christian attacking Christ. Do you know the history behind Mary being called Theotokos (God-bearer or the one who gives birth to God), and why this title has everything to do with Christ Jesus (who is fully God and fully man; one person) and NOT God the Father or God the Son BEFORE the Incarnation of God becoming man?

To Catholics the title Mother of God has everything to do with Jesus because Catholics believe Jesus to be God. To Catholics to say Mary isn’t the Mother of God you are saying that Jesus isn’t God which is blasphemy to Catholics. The title Mother of God is a blessing to Mary because she was blessed to have God become her human child called Jesus and so “all generations will call me blessed” Luke 1:48.

If you are a non-Christian then I ask you what I asked a Muslim on another thread:
The incarnation of the infinite God becoming a finite human person and yet remaining infinite God is another Divine Mystery that Christians accept on faith. Can an infinite God becoming a finite human person and yet remaining infinite God? Christians say yes because God is infinite.
Do you believe it is impossible for an infinite God to become a finite child of a mortal human woman? If so then He is not an infinite God. We can’t understand how because of our finite human minds, so it is a Divine Mystery we accept on faith.
 
Anna,

believe me when I tell you that human teachers will bring you to ruin.

If you are taught by another human it only means one of 2 things or both.

1 - You lost contact with God and needed this person to tell you. (eg. David by Nathan)
2 - You have been deceived and not speaking to God.

The problem is the SAME…your communication with God is not working. And whether or not this person is indeed conveying messages from God is a total unknown.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Mosacked:

You have demonstrated the dangers of false teachers, by the false teachings you post repeatedly.

How are your words edifying our Lord? Really, Mosacked, think about this.

There is a spiritual darkness in your words; and I fear for you. You are in troubled waters. I am not saying this to insult you. I am saying this with my last ounce of Christian Charity.

Please stop and consider what you are doing, here.

I, too, would like to know whether or not you are Christian.

Concerned Protestant,
Anna
Which means that we can only conclude one thing; that since you do not desire to be enlightened/taught/informed about Catholicism that these questions you asked were loaded and were truly insincere. God bless
Sadly, I think many of us are wondering the same thing.
God bless you
May God bless you as Well,
Anna
 
Tell me - why was St. Paul writing them letters? For the sake of his health? 🤷

I am anointed, by the way, by every definition out there. I was anointed with the gift of tongues when I completed a LIfe in the Spirit program. I was anointed at my Confirmation by the Bishop. I have spoken face to face with the Risen Christ.

None of these things mean that I don’t need good teachers. They enabled my mind to be opened to be able to receive good teaching. But they didn’t automatically infuse my mind with knowledge - I still had to listen to good teachers and read good books. But if any of these things had puffed me up with pride, or caused me to think that I no longer need to listen to the Church, that would have been the sure evidence of a false anointing - something from the Devil.
You are anointed by God and you need to be taught by men???

Just listen to yourself. You are saying that you are attending kindergarten after attending convocation.

Either you are deceiving yourself, or these people who are teaching you must be God in disguise… which is of course not possible…the conclusion we are therefore forced to undertake is that you must be delusional.

*My Sheep Hear My Voice.
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You are anointed by God and you need to be taught by men???

Just listen to yourself. You are saying that you are attending kindergarten after attending convocation.

Either you are deceiving yourself, or these people who are teaching you must be God in disguise… which is of course not possible…the conclusion we are therefore forced to undertake is that you must be delusional.

*My Sheep Hear My Voice.
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The one who is being deceived is you, my friend. By your words and actions and a confrontational attitude it looks like the “great deceiver” is prompting you, for he knows scripture also ( and better than you do ). Please stop and think of what you are doing before you fall into the deep pit and cannot climb out.

PAX DOMINI :signofcross:

Shalom Aleichem
 
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