Catholics in US overwhelmingly support homosexual unions [CWN]

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A lot of women know exactly what they’re doing. Just prosecute those?
Courts will have to have moral culpability hearings to determine which women are competent to stand trial.
Keep in mind that a good number of abortionists, though aware that the fetus is human, consider an early abortion as other than taking a human life with factors such as psychological health of the mother in play, and, if fact, a beneficial act. I’m not claiming that their reasoning is valid, but it doesn’t automatically make them murderers or more culpable than the women.
Likewise, courts will need moral culpability hearings to determine which abortion providers are competent to stand trial.
Unless a girl is under age, I see no reason to treat them less harshly than the abortionist they’ve hired to perform the procedure.
At what age would you try the girl as an adult, as often happens in the matter of gang slayings?
 
At what age would you try the girl as an adult, as often happens in the matter of gang slayings?
Age 18. Anyone younger is IMO incapable of making fully mature judgments. I believe the same about males brought up on criminal charges BTW.
 
Age 18. Anyone younger is IMO incapable of making fully mature judgments. I believe the same about males brought up on criminal charges BTW.
That’s a really simplistic view on the human mind.

Once the 18th birthday roles around at 12:00 AM, one’s views on the world doesn’t suddenly change. Many people far past the age of 18 still think like children. Lindsey Lohan is a great example.
 
That’s a really simplistic view on the human mind.

Once the 18th birthday roles around at 12:00 AM, one’s views on the world doesn’t suddenly change. Many people far past the age of 18 still think like children. Lindsey Lohan is a great example.
Simplistic it may be, but that’s where the law makes the cut.
 
That’s a really simplistic view on the human mind.

Once the 18th birthday roles around at 12:00 AM, one’s views on the world doesn’t suddenly change. Many people far past the age of 18 still think like children. Lindsey Lohan is a great example.
Actually, I think Linsey Lohan is an example of someone getting less mature as she gets older. 🙂
 
A lot of women know exactly what they’re doing. Just prosecute those?
I would dispute that. I would think that the vast majority of women have no clue, or have been effectively brainwashed by the pro-abortion cabal in this country to believe that they have the right to kill an innocent human being as long as it’s a fetus in the womb.
Keep in mind that a good number of abortionists, though aware that the fetus is human, consider an early abortion as other than taking a human life with factors such as psychological health of the mother in play, and, if fact, a beneficial act. I’m not claiming that their reasoning is valid, but it doesn’t automatically make them murderers or more culpable than the women.
As physicians they are obligated to follow the laws of the land in regard to medical treatment regardless of their personal opinion. If they break the law because they believe themselves above the law, they are culpable regardless.
Unless a girl is under age, I see no reason to treat them less harshly than the abortionist they’ve hired to perform the procedure.
I do. Pregnancy hormones + a feeling of desperation, or of not having any choice = less culpability for many instances.

If it’s a case of a woman using abortion as birth control, then she may need to be in a psychiatric institution to help resolve the problem of sex addiction.

If it’s a woman who wants to kill her child so she can go on a cruise in six months, then she needs a mental institution as well for possible sociopathic tendencies.

The bottom line is that a woman who wants to kill her child needs help in the form of treatment, counseling, and/or social services and crisis pregnancy centers, not jail.
 
If it’s a woman who wants to kill her child so she can go on a cruise in six months, then she needs a mental institution as well for possible sociopathic tendencies. The bottom line is that a woman who wants to kill her child needs help in the form of treatment, counseling, and/or social services and crisis pregnancy centers, not jail.
If it’s a man who kills a bank teller during a robbery so he can afford to go on a cruise in six months, then he needs a mental institution as well for possible sociopathic tendencies. He is no more responsible for his behavior than the woman who kills her child to go on a cruise.
 
If it’s a man who kills a bank teller during a robbery so he can afford to go on a cruise in six months, then he needs a mental institution as well for possible sociopathic tendencies. He is no more responsible for his behavior than the woman who kills her child to go on a cruise.
So, you are recommending women who seek abortions should be institutionalized?
 
Oh…and how did we get from homosexual unions to abortions? Homosexual unions can’t even produce a child! 😛
 
Catholics form a relatively low percentage of participants the Tea Party movement, have similar views to most Americans on abortion, and overwhelmingly support the legal recognition of …

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It looks like only 19% of Catholics support real marriage.

the road is narrow and few follow it…

Then again there is something VERY wrong with the Church in America. Many liberals have infiltrated many director positions within parishes. Some parishes even have had gay masses and it took a while for the bishop to finally find out. Like what happened at St. Joan of Arc in Minnesota.

I think this however also shows the arrogance and big egos of most Americans. They think they are not bound by God’s laws and can do whatever they want despite contrary.
 
Not necessarily. If heavy punishments were placed on a doctor who performs an abortion (including removal of medical license and imprisonment) and upon anyone who attempts to perform one, then there would be no doctors willing to do it and no where to get an abortion.

Of course, there’d always be underground clinics. It’s impossible to stop anything 100%, but by making it illegal, at least the rate will drop.

Women usually don’t want to get abortions. They feel like they’re forced to. So don’t punish the woman. Rather, show her that adoption is a valid option and show her that the fetus is still a life (ultrasounds help this out a lot). The punishments should be upon those who force the woman to get an abortion—namely parents or a would-be deadbeat “father”—and upon those who attempt the operation.
WHAT, ? DON’T PUNISH THE WOMAN FOR GETTING AN ABORTION? blame the Father,parents , the envirerment,her friends,the Church, Society, her boyfriend made her have an abortion? , BUT don’t blame the woman, Do you call the person killing a baby ,for no other reason , but to get rid of IT: A Woman???
 
Not quacks. Those medically qualified Ob-Gyns who are now performing abortions would go underground or be very discreet about letting women know about their availability - the money is too good to give up. But, quacks? No. There’s no lack of qualified physicians that would inspire untrained abortionists to flourish.
Does anyone know why Doctors,or abortionists don’t follow the Hippocratic Oath which states “not to perform abortions ,or dispense Deadly Drugs”???are they breaking any Laws, or are they legal murderers??
 
No – wanner47 is.
Oh, I get it now. I reread your posts. What you are saying is that robbing a bank is the same thing as killing an innocent unborn child. Got it.

Anyway, your twisted views on abortion are irrelevant to the the thread topic. We should all try to get back on topic. The Church clearly teaches against homosexual unions. It is sad that so many Catholics are abandoning their faith and embracing secularism.
 
Oh, I get it now. I reread your posts. What you are saying is that robbing a bank is the same thing as killing an innocent unborn child. Got it.
No – you need to read more carefully and think more deeply. I’m not saying that at all.
 
No – you need to read more carefully and think more deeply. I’m not saying that at all.
What you are saying is that the only way to deal with abortion, if made illegal, is prison. There are a multitude of factors tjhat go into the sentencing of perpetrators of illegal acts. This would be no different, especially when taken into consideration the fact that the majority of girls that get abortions are pressured into it by boyfriends, husbands, parents, employers, etc.
 
Does anyone know why Doctors,or abortionists don’t follow the Hippocratic Oath which states “not to perform abortions ,or dispense Deadly Drugs”???are they breaking any Laws, or are they legal murderers??
The Hippocratic Oath is merely a custom. It does not have force of law.

Moreover, many versions of the oath exist. According to a review conducted in 1993, the provision forbidding abortion was omitted at 92% of the medical schools in the US.
scienceweek.com/2004/sa040917-6.htm
 
If it’s a man who kills a bank teller during a robbery so he can afford to go on a cruise in six months, then he needs a mental institution as well for possible sociopathic tendencies. He is no more responsible for his behavior than the woman who kills her child to go on a cruise.
No – you need to read more carefully and think more deeply. I’m not saying that at all.
Let’s deal with your twisted views on abortion in a thread about abortion.

Do you support homosexual unions? If so, how do you reconcile your views with Church teaching?
 
The Hippocratic Oath is merely a custom. It does not have force of law.

Moreover, many versions of the oath exist. According to a review conducted in 1993, the provision forbidding abortion was omitted at 92% of the medical schools in the US.
scienceweek.com/2004/sa040917-6.htm
All versions of the oath state to “do no harm.” Abortion harms the infant and the mother. Furthermore an oath which carries no consequences when broken is no oath, but empty words.
 
What you are saying is that the only way to deal with abortion, if made illegal, is prison.
No, I am not saying that. You need to learn to read more carefully, and think in a more critical and nuanced fashion.
 
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