Catholics not Christians???

[brosam]

Then how do you explain this from the Catechism of the Catholic Church?

The pope is the one who said it, not me. Let him explain it.

 

[BrewMax]

In fact, it is your fault. You can not support your charge against Holy Father and you bear false witness against him.

I suggest, you find this so called “evidence” very soon.

This thread is getting enough attention that you will have no choice, even if I am not here to keep asking you to back up your charges.

You must either come up with the evidence, or retract your charge.

If you really rely on MSB for your religious education, then go to a forum that entertains such persons.

It is not here my friend.

I did say that unless you denied the Trinity I would be hard pressed to see your point,

you never said you did accept the Trinity I noted.

If you do, this is good news.

But, it leads to another question…

Why do you?

In all fairness, let’s give him a chance here. He did attempt to at least give us some information. I’m still curious to see more here.

 

[lak611]

The pope is the one who said it, not me. Let him explain it.

The Imprimi Potest which means

It can be printed. Permission that a religious receives from his major superior to publish a manuscript on a religious subject. This implies approval of the writing by the superior and clearance to receive a bishop’s imprimatur.

from this source of the Catechism of the Catholic Church was given by +Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, who is now Pope Benedict XVI. The Pope never said non-Catholics are not Christians. He is the Church official who approved our Catechism, complete with what I quoted in an earlier post.

 

[Hellisreal]

I don’t have a copy of the Catechism right in front of me, but it does state that the Roman Catholic church is the only institution where the sacrements are truly celebrated. I know my wording there isn’t exact. This statement in itself could lead some to believe that salvation could not be possible outside the Roman church. I could see this as a possible argument. Just a thought.

The point is not the sacraments now.

Although, a good topic for another thread.

Do you know what the CCC says about the muslims and their salvation?

Or the Jewish people?

This poster never even mentioned salvation! (in the posts I engaged him on)

He charged Holy Father of not considering protestants christian!

I am curious if his denom denies the Trinity. If so, well then he would not be a christian.

 

[lak611]

He charged Holy Father of not considering protestants christian!

I gave a direct quote from the Catechism that says Protestants are Christians and showed that our current Pope is the person who approved the Catechism. He won’t be able to find anything that refutes what I quoted.

 

[Hellisreal]

In all fairness, let’s give him a chance here. He did attempt to at least give us some information. I’m still curious to see more here.

Like what? Something that Holy Father kept from us and only shared with him or MSBN?

Come on now. Put your thinking cap on.

 

[Hellisreal]

I gave a direct quote from the Catechism that says Protestants are Christians and showed that our current Pope is the person who approved the Catechism. He won’t be able to find anything that refutes what I quoted.

Of course not. But, I would like to see a retraction.

If he/she cant or wont do that, fine.

Then I suggest, that this poster bear in mind the burden of bearing false witness now.

 

[estesbob]

Not the Roman Catholic church, and that’s just fine with me, but we are a part of Christ’s church.

Actually you are not. You seperated yourslef from the one true Church. There can be only one Church. This does not mean you are not a Chrisitian and does not mean you can not be saved. but make no mistake- having cut yourslef off from the Church you have settled for a pale shadow of the truth

 

[brosam]

Actually you are not.

Then it’s your word against God’s.

 

[BrewMax]

Like what? Something that Holy Father kept from us and only shared with him or MSBN?

Come on now. Put your thinking cap on.

I’m just curious to see what the MSNBC article had to say on the matter, that’s all. No big thing.

 

[brosam]

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000806_dominus-iesus_en.html

apnews.myway.com/article/20070710/D8Q9O1FO0.html

msnbc.msn.com/id/19692094/

 

[lak611]

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000806_dominus-iesus_en.html

apnews.myway.com/article/20070710/D8Q9O1FO0.html

msnbc.msn.com/id/19692094/

None of these articles say that Protestants are not Christians.

 

[BrewMax]

None of these articles say that Protestants are not Christians.

my take on this is that the Roman Catholic church has stated that Protestants have truth but not the entire truth. Would this be accurate?

 

[Hellisreal]

None of these articles say that Protestants are not Christians.

Brosum says so.

Lets hear his splainin away.

He must be right because he posted links!!!

And, he can of course explain them too.

 

[Hellisreal]

my take on this is that the Roman Catholic church has stated that Protestants have truth but not the entire truth. Would this be accurate?

Yes. They do not have the fullness of truth.

 

[Michael_Francis]

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