Catholics; tell me the wrongs in my protestant church!

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josie_L said:
I think you need to stay away from the dynamite you use (I’m not kidding you).
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Why would I do that? I have used dynamite for over 25 years. I’m still here. 🙂

None of you believe what I have told you. That is your privilege. Do not believe what I have experienced. Forget about it. Analyze the scriptures that I have given unto you, and the understanding of these scriptures that again, I have provided you with. If you disagree with this understanding, then please provide me with the source of your understanding. I know what is written in the scriptures. Now tell me, how you come to the understanding, that you have, concerning The Trinity & The Godhead. Even the apostles state that they do not understand the mystery concerning this topic. Do you know more than they do? How much of your ‘understanding’ is the truth, and how much is based on assumptions. Use the same scriptures that I have provided you with, and tell me how these scriptures tie into your ‘understanding’.

I am not ridiculing or scorning you. I am very serious. 🙂
 
Thorwald said:
Why would I do that? I have used dynamite for over 25 years. I’m still here. 🙂

None of you believe what I have told you. That is your privilege. Do not believe what I have experienced. Forget about it. Analyze the scriptures that I have given unto you, and the understanding of these scriptures that again, I have provided you with. If you disagree with this understanding, then please provide me with the source of your understanding. I know what is written in the scriptures. Now tell me, how you come to the understanding, that you have, concerning The Trinity & The Godhead. Even the apostles state that they do not understand the mystery concerning this topic. Do you know more than they do? How much of your ‘understanding’ is the truth, and how much is based on assumptions. Use the same scriptures that I have provided you with, and tell me how these scriptures tie into your ‘understanding’.

I am not ridiculing or scorning you. I am very serious. 🙂
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We do not believe you because you have no authority. We only submit ourselves to God and his trusted leaders in his Church, and don’t bug me again by saying. If you cannot handle it, you might as well give it up.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
Thorwald is guilty of Bibliolatry. He thinks the Word of God is the Bible. The Word of God is Jesus.
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You can definitely claim that you are Catholic, but by your response, you are definitely not a Christian. 🙂
 
Thorwald said:
Why would I do that? I have used dynamite for over 25 years. I’m still here. 🙂

None of you believe what I have told you. That is your privilege. Do not believe what I have experienced. Forget about it. Analyze the scriptures that I have given unto you, and the understanding of these scriptures that again, I have provided you with. If you disagree with this understanding, then please provide me with the source of your understanding. I know what is written in the scriptures. Now tell me, how you come to the understanding, that you have, concerning The Trinity & The Godhead. Even the apostles state that they do not understand the mystery concerning this topic. Do you know more than they do? How much of your ‘understanding’ is the truth, and how much is based on assumptions. Use the same scriptures that I have provided you with, and tell me how these scriptures tie into your ‘understanding’.

I am not ridiculing or scorning you. I am very serious. 🙂
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Thorwald I will pray for you, and I truly mean this (with no sarcasm intended). I also know God loves you, but please, please, stop espousing such heretical views, this will endanger your soul. I ask that you humble yourself before the lord like a child and pray for his guidance.

P.S. Can dynamite (or the effects from blasts) affect your brain?
 
Thorwald said:
I guess (by your response), that you believe that The Bible is not the Word of God, but the work of satan. How pathetic. 🙂
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The Bible contains the Word of God. The Bible’s primary author is God. He use men to write the Bible. The Bible is collection of Books containing the history of the creation of Man by God, the history of the Hebrew People, and the New Testament.

She did not say it is the work of Satan. I think you are just tired of these arguments that you resort to polterizing our faith.

She also said that the Word of God is Jesus Christ.

The Gospel of John states,

John Chapter One verse One and following,

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God; all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made. In him was life, and the life of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

There was a man sent by God, whose name was John. He came for the testimony, to bear witness to the light, that all might believe through him. He was not the light, but came to bear witness to the light.

The true light that enlightens every man was coming into the world. He was in the world, and the was world was made through him, yet the world knew him not. He came into his home, and his people received him not. But to all who received him, who believed him in his name, he gave power to become children of God, who were born not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

And the Word became flesh and dwelt amongst us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten Son from the Father."

Literally speaking, the Word of God is Jesus Christ himself. The Bible contains the Word of God but the Bible is not literally the Word of God because the Word of God manifest in the incarnation of Jesus Christ, True God, True Man.
 
Thorwald said:
I guess (by your response), that you believe that The Bible is not the Word of God, but the work of satan. How pathetic. 🙂
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I believe the Bible to be the inspired Word of God, while Jesus is the Word of God. And how pathetic can it be if the opening line in the gospel of John is "In the beginning was the word . . . "
 
Thorwald said:
You can definitely claim that you are Catholic, but by your response, you are definitely not a Christian. 🙂
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Really. This is what I believe.
  1. I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth:
  2. And in Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son, our Lord:
  3. Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary:
  4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead and buried: He descended into the dead:
  5. The third day he rose again from the dead:
  6. He ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty:
  7. From then he shall come to judge the living and the dead:
  8. I believe in the Holy Ghost:
  9. I believe in the Holy Catholic Church: the Communion of Saints:
  10. The forgiveness of sins:
1l. The resurrection of the body:
  1. And the life everlasting. Amen.
I am a Christian. You are a Biblican not a Christian.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
There is only One God. No other God. I did read what you wrote and your writings contain a lot of erroneous statements and opinions you have about the Catholic Church. They are distortions of what you think is the truth.

The Catholic Church added only the 27 NT into the Bible in the Council of Hippo 392, Council of Carthage 396 AD, Council of Carthage again in 416, Council of Florence 1430 AD. Those early list of the Bible included the Deutrocanonical Books. Twenty years after Jesus resurrection and ascension, there have been numerous Gospels roaming around the Roman Empire. The Church could not agree what books were consider Canonical. It was not until a Marcion claimed that all Churches should avoid using the OT. How did the Early Church respond? They condemned Marcion and after this heresy, the Church by the 4 to 5th Century started to compile a list of Books that is consider inspired.

We Catholics believe that God is Triune God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit but One God, three Divine Persons. What do you believe?
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I believe as I have written it. This came not from man, but from God. He used the KJV Bible, in order to teach me. As I read and re-read the N/T scriptures, new verses at times would appear, and then disappear again later. In the dream, I was told, that I would be provided with even ‘the currently lost word’. This is how He showed me the lost word.

The most important thing of all, was the revelation concerning The Trinity & The Godhead. He told me, that this (the understanding) was ‘broken’ and I volunteered to ‘fix it’. He used the second vision, in order to show me the truth, and then brought me through the scriptures, that supported this truth. I have provided you with the same scriptures. 🙂
 
Thorwald said:
I believe as I have written it. This came not from man, but from God. He used the KJV Bible, in order to teach me. As I read and re-read the N/T scriptures, new verses at times would appear, and then disappear again later. In the dream, I was told, that I would be provided with even ‘the currently lost word’. This is how He showed me the lost word.

The most important thing of all, was the revelation concerning The Trinity & The Godhead. He told me, that this (the understanding) was ‘broken’ and I volunteered to ‘fix it’. He used the second vision, inb order to show me the truth, and then brought me through the scriptures, that supported this truth. I have provided you with the same scriptures. 🙂
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You are being used and I won’t say by who?
 
Thorwald said:
I believe as I have written it. This came not from man, but from God. He used the KJV Bible, in order to teach me. As I read and re-read the N/T scriptures, new verses at times would appear, and then disappear again later. In the dream, I was told, that I would be provided with even ‘the currently lost word’. This is how He showed me the lost word.

The most important thing of all, was the revelation concerning The Trinity & The Godhead. He told me, that this (the understanding) was ‘broken’ and I volunteered to ‘fix it’. He used the second vision, inb order to show me the truth, and then brought me through the scriptures, that supported this truth. I have provided you with the same scriptures. 🙂
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Your have a Private Revelation from God eh? You expect me to believe you? I don’t think so… I am weary of false prophets…I do not trust you.
 
He has been deceived. God is immutable and cannot changed. Based on Thorwald’s private revelation from an “unknown supernatural source,” he is changing basic Christian doctrine. I hardly think that is divinely inspired revelations. It sounds like false prophecy or deception on his part.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
He has been deceived. God is immutable and cannot changed. Based on Thorwald’s private revelation from an “unknown supernatural source,” he is changing basic Christian doctrine. I hardly think that is divinely inspired revelations. It sounds like false prophecy or deception on his part.
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We need to pray for him Manny. All of us should. May God guide him true.
 
josie_L said:
You are being used and I won’t say by who?
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Satan cannot make Christ or The Lord God Almighty appear. I have seen both at the same time. They are identical in all ways. I have seen what I have seen. I bring you the truth, but you believe that satan has made me a false prophet. The scriptures warn me, that this will happen. I have glorified God. Who are you glorifying?

Here is a very simple question, in order to test your ‘spiritual wisdom’. The Lord God Almighty created the angels and man. He ‘begot’ Jesus. What was done differently? Why the use of the different ‘terms’? I know the answer. This is one of the very many ‘pieces of wisdom’ that I was given. Explain to me the difference in regards to the above two terms. 🙂
 
Thorwald said:
Satan cannot make Christ or The Lord God Almighty appear. I have seen both at the same time. They are identical in all ways. I have seen what I have seen. I bring you the truth, but you believe that satan has made me a false prophet. The scriptures warn me, that this will happen. I have glorified God. Who are you glorifying?

Here is a very simple question, in order to test your ‘spiritual wisdom’. The Lord God Almighty created the angels and man. He ‘begot’ Jesus. What was done differently? Why the use of the different ‘terms’? I know the answer. This is one of the very many ‘pieces of wisdom’ that I was given. Explain to me the difference in regards to the above two terms. 🙂
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Do you believe in the Mary apparitions at Fatima, Lourdes . … etc.

P.S. How do you know it was Jesus? Have you ever laid eyes on him before so that you could identify him as such? Just because something appeared to you claiming it was Christ does not make it Christ. You are being deceived. Pray to God for guidance.
 
Thorwald said:
Satan cannot make Christ or The Lord God Almighty appear. I have seen both at the same time. They are identical in all ways. I have seen what I have seen. I bring you the truth, but you believe that satan has made me a false prophet. The scriptures warn me, that this will happen. I have glorified God. Who are you glorifying?

Here is a very simple question, in order to test your ‘spiritual wisdom’. The Lord God Almighty created the angels and man. He ‘begot’ Jesus. What was done differently? Why the use of the different ‘terms’? I know the answer. This is one of the very many ‘pieces of wisdom’ that I was given. Explain to me the difference in regards to the above two terms. 🙂
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Angels and men do not share the same nature as God, Jesus does, that is the difference.
 
josie_L said:
Do you believe in the Mary apparitions at Fatima, Lourdes . … etc.

P.S. How do you know it was Jesus? Have you ever laid eyes on him before so that you could identify him as such? Just because something appeared to you as Christ does not make him Christ.
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I know nothing about them. 🙂
 
Thorwald said:
Satan cannot make Christ or The Lord God Almighty appear. I have seen both at the same time. They are identical in all ways. I have seen what I have seen. I bring you the truth, but you believe that satan has made me a false prophet. The scriptures warn me, that this will happen. I have glorified God. Who are you glorifying?

Here is a very simple question, in order to test your ‘spiritual wisdom’. The Lord God Almighty created the angels and man. He ‘begot’ Jesus. What was done differently? Why the use of the different ‘terms’? I know the answer. This is one of the very many ‘pieces of wisdom’ that I was given. Explain to me the difference in regards to the above two terms. 🙂
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Thorwald, there have been many accounts from saints where the devil has appeared to them as jesus or the virgin mary in order to try and trick them. This is not a new trick from the devil. I’m not saying the dream you had was evil but it is a big possibility.
 
Thorwald said:
Satan cannot make Christ or The Lord God Almighty appear. I have seen both at the same time. They are identical in all ways. I** have seen what I have seen. I bring you the truth, but you believe that satan has made me a false prophet. The scriptures warn me, that this will happen.** I have glorified God. Who are you glorifying?
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The scriptures also warn of ravenous wolves dressed in sheeps clothing in order to decieve people. Jesus himself warned us in the scriptures that anyone who claimed to have the truth after he has revealed it to us is false!
 
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