Catholics; tell me the wrongs in my protestant church!

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In my methodist church we only did communion like maybe one or twice every six months! We didn’t even use wine, instead it was grape juice or pomegramate juice. We didn’t even have a special cup, instead we used many plastic disposible cups. There was not even the unleavened, instead it was normal bread…

No confession, no prayer room for you to go in alone… nothing. It was very social but just not enough.

Roman Catholic Church is so much better for you, confession, prayer room; one for christ, one for mary. A place to light a candle in memory of a decese, an eternal prayer or a plea to God, Christ of for a miracle during alot of suffering.

…I have missed out out on all this for so long (I never knew the Catholic faith) I feel sad for those who will not turn to our church for their spiritruality to grow and be nuertured.

Please tell me the other bad things about my denomination to keep me from ever being so stupid as to go back there… or how about other stuff about catholicism that I don’t know about yet?

P.S. I am currently taking RICA classes. :yeah_me: (yay me!)

xXX zundrah XXx
 
Eucharistic Adoration is a great experience you will learn about in RCIA. 😃
 
Instead of focusing on what is wrong with your previous church, simply focus on what you love about being in RCIA, and what you are looking forward to, when you become a Catholic. 🙂
 
jmcrae said:
Instead of focusing on what is wrong with your previous church, simply focus on what you love about being in RCIA, and what you are looking forward to, when you become a Catholic. 🙂
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Yay, this is true! I love it!
 
SpaceNeedle said:
Eucharistic Adoration is a great experience you will learn about in RCIA. 😃
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I can’t wait until I get to do the eucharist after my comfirmation! 😃 Meanwhile I love getting the weekly blessing from my priest at communion!
 
JonNC said:
Yay me? How about Yeah Holy Spirit! for guiding you to where He wants you, and opening your heart and mind to receive it. 😉

Jon
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Amen, yay holy spirit for guiding me home!:heaven: …home to our darling advocate Mary, home to our communion of saints!❤️
 
Zundrah said:
I can’t wait until I get to do the eucharist after my comfirmation! 😃 Meanwhile I love getting the weekly blessing from my priest at communion!
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You can start going to Eucharistic Adoration right now, if you want. 🙂 It might actually help your journey, I would think.
 
SpaceNeedle said:
You can start going to Eucharistic Adoration right now, if you want. 🙂 It might actually help your journey, I would think.
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Anyone can go to Eucharistic Adoration, who is reverent, respectful of the real presence of our Lord, and Catholic practices. As an n-CC, I’d get permission first, though.
Jon
 
This website will go into very good detail:

therealpresence.org/eucharst/pea/a2.html

If they don’t offer Eucharistic Adoration at the parish you are going to RCIA in, you can use this website to find a chapel that offers EA elsewhere.

This is a wonderful contemplative experience, and I regret I don’t go more often.
 
I’m not sure which “branch” of Methodist you are, but I will assume that you’re in one of the non-OSAS (once saved, always saved). That’s one thing that you won’t have to “relearn” (as I did as a former Presbyterian). I know what you mean about the plastic “shot glasses” with Welch’s and the Hawaiian bread (that’s what my former church used). Just as an aside, do you know how Welch’s grape juice came to be? This Wiki on Thomas Welch is an interesting read.

I definately agree with the other posters about looking forward to the positives and what you’re gaining by converting to Catholicism and not back to what your former “didn’t have”. Truth be told, no matter how much a protestant denomination retained from Catholicism, it still would be missing at least one (very important) thing (the Real Presence in the Eucharist).

And about Eucharistic Adoration, that is something you can do before you’re confirmed. Sometimes it is a simple as going to an Adoration Chapel with the Blessed Sacrament exposed in a monstrance and praying in the presence of Our Lord. Sometimes, with a priest present, there is what is called Benediction, which is a whole liturgy on its own. Some hymns are sang (such as “Holy God, We Praise Thy Name” or other Eucharistic hymns), usually the Divine Praises are prayed. There is a period of time for quiet prayer, and then, before the Blessed Sacrament is placed back in the tabernacle, the priest blesses the people with it (he makes a sign of the cross over the people while it is in the monstrance while wearing what is called a humeral veil). This is a very lovely liturgy and I hope you get to attend one soon.

One last thing… I hope you like learning! 😉 You are about to embark on a life-long journey of learning, and reading, and studying, and praying, and… Personally, I am a history, music and theology “buff”, so I have encountered the “trifecta” of all three interests. There is 2000 years of history with the Church, so I will have much to learn and study for the rest of my life! 🙂 I would like to give a bit of a warning… don’t feel like you have to know everything about Catholicism before you convert… again, learning everything you can about 2000 years of history is impossible in one (or several) lifetimes. Make sure you have a good foundation of knowledge to support a whole lifetime.

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Zundrah said:
Please tell me the other bad things about my denomination to keep me from ever being so stupid as to go back there… or how about other stuff about catholicism that I don’t know about yet?
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As with all our other separated brothers and sisters in Christ, we only see them as not having the **fullness **of truth. It’s not about being “stupid”, it’s just that there’s so much Truth that they don’t yet know! (and sadly there are those who refuse this Truth but that’s why we must pray to the Holy Spirit to enlighten them as with everyone He brings to the Church).

So rather than point out what’s wrong, it’s good to point out what’s good about the Catholic Church including Eucharistic adoration as a lot of people have posted. This is something you’ll definitely want to do but I do recommend you read up on it to better understand.

As for other stuff about Catholicism… there’s plenty of stuff us Catholics don’t even know either because there’s so much to learn! If you do have a question though, feel free to ask.
 
Liraco said:
As with all our other separated brothers and sisters in Christ, we only see them as not having the **fullness **of truth. It’s not about being “stupid”, it’s just that there’s so much Truth that they don’t yet know! (and sadly there are those who refuse this Truth but that’s why we must pray to the Holy Spirit to enlighten them as with everyone He brings to the Church).

So rather than point out what’s wrong, it’s good to point out what’s good about the Catholic Church including Eucharistic adoration as a lot of people have posted. This is something you’ll definitely want to do but I do recommend you read up on it to better understand.

As for other stuff about Catholicism… there’s plenty of stuff us Catholics don’t even know either because there’s so much to learn! If you do have a question though, feel free to ask.
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Okay, there is the communion of saints right? Well, there are the living communion and the perished communion who were with our christ right? Is that right? Who are the living communion that meet up with the pope, is it the bishops? 🤷
 
Zundrah said:
In my methodist church we only did communion like maybe one or twice every six months! We didn’t even use wine, instead it was grape juice or pomegramate juice. We didn’t even have a special cup, instead we used many plastic disposible cups. There was not even the unleavened, instead it was normal bread…

No confession, no prayer room for you to go in alone… nothing. It was very social but just not enough.

Roman Catholic Church is so much better for you, confession, prayer room; one for christ, one for mary. A place to light a candle in memory of a decese, an eternal prayer or a plea to God, Christ of for a miracle during alot of suffering.

…I have missed out out on all this for so long (I never knew the Catholic faith) I feel sad for those who will not turn to our church for their spiritruality to grow and be nuertured.

Please tell me the other bad things about my denomination to keep me from ever being so stupid as to go back there… or how about other stuff about catholicism that I don’t know about yet?

P.S. I am currently taking RICA classes. :yeah_me: (yay me!)

xXX zundrah XXx
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First I just noticed your post count, 1,XXX and you just joined in May, you do have some zeal in you for knowledge. But as far as what’s wrong, I’d rather turn in a different way, there a bits and pieces of truth in all the worlds religions, including your church, but the fullness of God’s revealed truth is found in the Catholic Church. I think it profits more to seek the fullness of truth then to nit pick the errors and doctrinal wrongness of your old church.
 
The Catholic Church is God’s institution on earth. It was for near-millennia before it was highjacked by zealous reformers. I don’t know about methodism per se, but protestantism left a bad taste in my mouth for many reasons:
  1. It’s heavily schismed. There are hundreds of isolated, single-serving, denominations in the protestant church. How does one choose what is correct? The same way we choose anything in capitalism: by our tastes and preferences. I could never feel like anything but a consumer in protestantism. How could I love a faction that is under constant revision?
  2. Once-saved-Always-saved theology: another result of interpreting the bible in isolated segments rather than as a unified whole. Even the great apostles never felt fully assured of their salvation - though perhaps they felt morally assured that they were on the righteous path.
  3. One of the hardest pills to swallow in protestantism is that “God is good enough to keep his word [the Holy Bible] but not good enough to keep his Church.” Either God was a liar when he said nothing would prevail against his Church, or his Church has always stood; Holy and Truth-revering.
  4. The Holy Bible, which is profitable for all Good things, was a collaberation of Catholic efforts; hence, “Rome has spoken!” when the Word of God had been sealed.
  5. The education and the authorities: there seems to be a cap on the education-level of pastors in the protestant realm. One year in Bible-school is hardly enough to educate a congregation of believers, hungry for Truth.
  6. There is nothing central about the authority in a protestant church. Protestants will claim that the Bible speaks for itself. But how can this be? The Bible no more speaks for itself to infants, who nary understand a word of english, than it does infantile minds - those young, naive, impressionable, and uneducated in the faith. The Authority in the Catholic Church is backed by near-thousands of years of tradition and heavily-unified theology. The only backing in a Protestant church is God’s abducted Word filtered through the whim and folly of it’s non-ordained preachers.
  7. The position of Mary in the Church: Mary is my Mother. She is not, as I’ve heard Protestants attest, a mere pon in Christ’s coming-to-glory. Jesus tells the apostle, ‘Behold, your mother.’ Shall we then not? No! We shall.
  8. True Meat / and True Drink: can we find such a thing in the Protestant church? I’ve heard laughter and scorn for such beliefs. Jesus tells us what a hard saying it would be to accept and indeed it must have been - Protestants have discarded it altogether.
I can in no way be assured of my prediction, but nevertheless let me make it: the ‘New’ Church, the ‘Emerging’ Church (as it has been called), will hardly resemble, in the generations to come, what we call Christianity today, if we accept the constant revision of time-honored beliefs as a necessary condition of finding Truth.

I am excited to see that you’re taking RCIA classes. I will be very soon 😃
God Bless you in your journey 🙂
 
All Catholics living and dead, those on earth, in heaven and in purgatory…we are all saints…just with a lower case “s”, unless determined otherwise 😃
 
Zundrah,

I am a little confused about all of your different posts. One you like Catholics, then next you want to get away from their tight grip. One you’re against Mormons, the next, you’re talking about going to the temple.
Zundrah said:
How can I become a mormon and get out of the tight grips of those catholics that are choking me right now with too many teachings!?
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Zundrah:
But I don’t know how to be, how am I different? I always loved the catholics but I just don’t see the difference between us other then the doctrines! 🤷
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Zundrah said:
Yep, yep, mormons say that they are the one true church so obviously they want to out do the chatholics! No, I wont let them! I may be protestant but we must stand together against these cults! Amen! 😃
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You realize all of your posts can be seen right?

I (and I’m sure many others) would like to know where you really stand.

Are you really Methodist, are your really going to RCIA, are you still an athiest, and just playing with all of us?

I really hope and pray you are on your way to finding a faith, and would just like to know where you really stand.
 
Zundrah said:
Okay, there is the communion of saints right? Well, there are the living communion and the perished communion who were with our christ right? Is that right? Who are the living communion that meet up with the pope, is it the bishops? 🤷
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Ah, some slight confusion I see. Hopefully this will help:

First off, there is no “perished communion”. Remember that God is the “God of the living, not the dead”. The saints **are **(present, not “were”) now with Him so, if anything, they are much more alive than we will ever be in this current life. So when one prays to the saints, it’s just like if I asked you to pray for me, except that who better to pray for you than one that is closer to God? We are told in scripture that it’s pleasing to Him that we pray to one another, and so we do and that includes the saints in Heaven. We are all part of the body of Christ, death does not separate us.

I’m confused on your words of “living communion”. The Pope and the Bishops you would rather see more as the successors of the Apostles (The Pope being the successor of Peter who was established as the foundation, and the Bishops serving as the other Apostles).

If you’re asking about the separation between those on Earth and those who have already passed on, we refer to those on Earth as the “Church Militant” (we fight for Truth and the salvation of souls) and those who have gained eternal life are the “Church Triumphant”.

As for “communion”, in terms of the Eucharist, only Catholics can receive it because it is also a sign that we are in complete agreement and obedience with the Church (which is why we don’t allow non-Catholics to receive because the act would be equal to lying as they’re not yet in full communion with the Church).
 
Zundrah said:
P.S. I am currently taking RICA classes. :yeah_me: (yay me!)

xXX zundrah XXx
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I haven’t read the rest of the posts here but this caught my attention.

Welcome to mother church and welcome home.

xXX and hug hug Ruben
 
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