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Yet another example of Catholic guilt hahaha.
Dude, she’s your WIFE.
You’re meant to find her sexually attractive!
Dude, she’s your WIFE.
You’re meant to find her sexually attractive!
Wow.Hello all,
This will be short. Today when my wife was in the shower I walked into our bathroom to get the dental floss and I saw her shaving her legs through the glass doors. Before I even could think about it I felt aroused by the sight of her nude body in the shower! I got very amorous and felt a strong urge to have sex with her. But I have to admit it was not to make a baby and become closer to her, it was because she was a real fox and I wanted to “be with” her! Is it wrong that I think lustfully of my wife (12 years this March) this way? I think I read in Christopher West’s book that I need to crucify my lustful thoughts? That sex is for unity and babies but not really just to scratch an itch? I love my wife and she is a babe, but maybe I am wrong in thinking this way?
No kidding, this thread is about to overtake this thread forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=634787 with the most dumbest questions.Yet another example of Catholic guilt hahaha.!
No kidding. The OP is asking a serious question, and judging by the comments here, many have decided for themselves what constitutes “acceptable” attraction, which, not coincidentally, tends to line up pretty well with what they prefer.There are a lot of sarcastic comments here that I don’t think really belong.
JPII says explicitly that it is possible to lust after one’s own wife, which is sinful.
He said he was instantly feelin amorous.There are a lot of sarcastic comments here that I don’t think really belong.
JPII says explicitly that it is possible to lust after one’s own wife, which is sinful.
Again, sexual attraction is not sinful, it is good and healthy. But without temperance it can be become less virtuous and more of a vice.
If someone is lusting, the sinfulness of it doesn’t change whether its the person’s wife or not.
As I said earlier, the op has to determine himself to what degree and how his own attitude was, and what needs to be worked on, because none of us can determine that for him.
The marital act certainly requires one to think about their sexual desires. Not to be crass, but a man for example does not get an erection by thinking of his future children (or if he does, he needs to get help!).No kidding. The OP is asking a serious question, and judging by the comments here, many have decided for themselves what constitutes “acceptable” attraction, which, not coincidentally, tends to line up pretty well with what they prefer.
The Church teaches that sex must be both unitive and open to procreation. I gotta be honest with you folks, every time the urge hits me I’m really not thinking about some holy unity, I’m thinking about what I want, and it’s not the prospect of getting up in the middle of the night to change diapers. Instead of trying to introduce a self-interpreted laxity into the meaning of this teaching, I spend time trying to understand and live it, and not without a bit of struggle.
Isn’t this exactly what the OP is doing?I think you are trying to separate sexual desire from the unitive and pro-creative aspects of sex and that’s the problem.
Very strange how most people here overlooked such a statement.But I have to admit it was not to make a baby and become closer to her, it was because she was a real fox and I wanted to “be with” her!
I don’t think people are overlooking that statement, I think many are of the opinion that the OP himself is separating healthy sexual desire from the unitive and procreative aspects of married sex. We are not required to keep our minds exclusively on unity and procreation in order for married sex to be unitive and procreative. Married sex by its very nature is unitive and procreative. What is sinful is actively trying to divorce unity and procreation from married sex by means of contraception. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a married couple being aroused by each other and engaging in what is the natural outcome of that arousal. The unitive and procreative aspects of that outcome are not dependent on the couple’s mental state.Isn’t this exactly what the OP is doing?
Very strange how most people here overlooked such a statement.
I did see that and I understood it… this is nuanced indeed.Isn’t this exactly what the OP is doing?
Very strange how most people here overlooked such a statement.
Sounds normal to me… didn’t Paul say those who can control their passions could be celebate and those who can’t should get married? Look it up in the NT but being sexually attracted to your spouse is normal and healthy especially the way it’s worded. Some of the Church get way too hung up on sexuality… open to life is only part of the equation.Hello all,
This will be short. Today when my wife was in the shower I walked into our bathroom to get the dental floss and I saw her shaving her legs through the glass doors. Before I even could think about it I felt aroused by the sight of her nude body in the shower! I got very amorous and felt a strong urge to have sex with her. But I have to admit it was not to make a baby and become closer to her, it was because she was a real fox and I wanted to “be with” her! Is it wrong that I think lustfully of my wife (12 years this March) this way? I think I read in Christopher West’s book that I need to crucify my lustful thoughts? That sex is for unity and babies but not really just to scratch an itch? I love my wife and she is a babe, but maybe I am wrong in thinking this way?
You are saying the exact thing that the media misunderstood after John Paul delivered his TOB.Sounds normal to me… didn’t Paul say those who can control their passions could be celebate and those who can’t should get married? Look it up in the NT but being sexually attracted to your spouse is normal and healthy especially the way it’s worded. Some of the Church get way too hung up on sexuality… open to life is only part of the equation.
I know some will disagree but if you can’t lust after your wife who can you lust after? It’s natural to be attracted and for those in a loving sacramental marraige the bonding will come through no matter what the inital reason was…
Joe
There’s a huge billboard outside my place of work of David Bekham in his new underwear…
this is just so so cruel!!!
Lust =/= sexual attraction.I know some will disagree but if you can’t lust after your wife who can you lust after? It’s natural to be attracted and for those in a loving sacramental marraige the bonding will come through no matter what the inital reason was…
Joe
I perfectly understand what you have said. I agree and understand that the unitive and procreative elements are intrinsically part of the marital act. However, these aspects could be breached, resulting in something other than the marital act as established by God.I don’t think people are overlooking that statement, I think many are of the opinion that the OP himself is separating healthy sexual desire from the unitive and procreative aspects of married sex. We are not required to keep our minds exclusively on unity and procreation in order for married sex to be unitive and procreative. Married sex by its very nature is unitive and procreative. What is sinful is actively trying to divorce unity and procreation from married sex by means of contraception. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a married couple being aroused by each other and engaging in what is the natural outcome of that arousal. The unitive and procreative aspects of that outcome are not dependent on the couple’s mental state.
That is it. It’s not always plain and obvious as we may think. So it’s really up to each of us to look deeply into our hearts to know whether something is lovely or lustful.Certainly, that lust which Christ speaks of in Matthew 5:27-28 appears in many forms in the human heart.** It is not always plain and obvious. Sometimes it is concealed, so that it passes itself off as love, although it changes its true profile and dims the limpidity of the gift in the mutual relationship of persons**.
David Bekham has always been my “weakness” and the billboard keeps flipping to different poses in his underwear. All I have to do is look out the window and there’s David
I often feel guilty too when I catch myself looking at a picture of an attractive man. I then have to remind myself that there’s nothing wrong in admiring the beauty in God’s creation… just so long as I don’t take it to the next level and start lusting. Which I am not prone to do anyway.
Tee hee!David Bekham has always been my “weakness” and the billboard keeps flipping to different poses in his underwear. All I have to do is look out the window and there’s David
I have to admit though that looking at attractive people inspires me to be healthy. It motivates me to work-out and eat healthy.