Celebrity priest punished after being caught with woman

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Consider this for a moment…What would you do if you married and due to un foreseen circumstances, your spouse was unable to have sex…Do you dump them? Would you admire someone that did?..Do your promises mean nothing?..Are we just here to serve ourselves, and to heck with everything else?:confused:
Honestly, I’d stay true to my husband, but chastity would be challenge and I would have to constantly pray to remain chaste.

I definitely wouldn’t leave my husband or cheat on him.
 
And unfortunately now he adds insult to injury, by going on TV appearances and newspaper interviews, like a narcissist who knows no shame and enjoys publicity at any price, unable to see the wrong he did. That Peterson guy is all smiles and cocky while being arrested for the murder of his wife, and Fr. Cutie does the same thing after breaking his vows. 😦

And the women who are ecstatic about his good looks and make comments such as “at least he found a good woman, he deserved it, it’s nothing wrong with it” don’t realize that this mentality will destroy more marriages, and theirs may be next…

“I’m in love”, says now Fr. Cutie, and that’s exactly what their cheating husbands will tell them, when abandoning them for someone else…

I fully agree, Norminha, the Church is holy because the Head is holy, and we should pray for our Pope, Bishops, Priests, Deacons, Men and Women Religious. That’s our role as laypeople.
So much for being a ‘good’ priest.

Yet another one in the Church’s ‘hall of shame’. Hopefully, he’d be dispensed quickly so he can be w/ the love of his life and we all can move on…
 
So much for being a ‘good’ priest.

Yet another one in the Church’s ‘hall of shame’. Hopefully, he’d be dispensed quickly so he can be w/ the love of his life and we all can move on…
According to him he isn’t sure he wants to marry the love of his life either…
 
According to him he isn’t sure he wants to marry the love of his life either…
Well, he better be sure.

After the recent news about no repentence for his action, he is not fit to be a priest any longer.
 
I wonder how his lady friend feels about this?..They have carried on for 2 years according to him…She might get dumped just like he dumped his promises to God
 
Well, he better be sure.

After the recent news about no repentence for his action, he is not fit to be a priest any longer.
Well, unfortunately, he will be a priest until the day that he dies. The most that the Church can do is give him a dispensation from celibacy in order to marry, provided that he requests it. Now comes the next bit of hard news. Pope Benedict has told secular priests and religious brothers not to bother asking for dispensations, regardless the reason. We have a shortage of religious brothers and diocesan priests. The only ones who have a surplus of priests are monastic orders; but those priests are not allowed to serve the laity or have any contact with the laity for fear of contamination.

At the moment, the most that can happen is that he be suspended by the local bishop. That may happen, if he continues to turn this into a media circuis. Thus far, he is on leave of absence to think and pray about this situation.

There are other options that the Church can offer him, but it doesn’t sound like he’s interested in them. At least, he has not mentioned them in his rounds.

My position is that this is an issue between Fr. Albert, the archbishop and God. I’m more concerned with the people in his parish. They have lost three beloved pastors back to back. They need our prayers.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I hope he has enough integrity left to stop giving interviews…The more he says the worse it sounds…He is wearing street clothes thank goodness
 
I just read the story on AOL. I am saddened that a priest would put his own desires ahead of his vows. I understand it is a difficult life, and Fr. Cutie will be in my prayers that he returns to the vocation to which hw was called.

THe real reson for this post is my sadness, my rage at the anti-Catholicism rampant on the message board connected with the story. It was nothing but hateful venom directed squarely at the Church. It makes me realize the difficult job God has placed before all of us, both clergy and laity.
 
I truly am sad that this has happened but more sad for the laity. Bcuz i know many looked up to him and saw that this has happened and don’t know what to do now. God has been calling me to pray more and i believe i need to start actually praying more.
 
I am not a good scripture quoter, but Christ says something to the effect the world will hate what is doesn’t accept, just like he was hated…They only love the things that are of the world, not things that strive to be above the worldly view of life

He also says something in His Sermon on the Mount about being blessed when people revile you for righteousness
 
Consider this for a moment…What would you do if you married and due to un foreseen circumstances, your spouse was unable to have sex…Do you dump them? Would you admire someone that did?..Do your promises mean nothing?..Are we just here to serve ourselves, and to heck with everything else?:confused:
  • Isn’t that what many people do?
  • No.
  • Basically.
  • For most humans, subject to the fallen human condition, yes.
 
Last night, I was watching the Abundant Life, Father Corapi was the guest. He made a statement that resonated with me. He said and I paraphrase: that satan wants to attack the Eucharist because it is the source and summit of our faith and the way that he does and will do that is through our priests. I often pray for our priests but his statement convicted me to realize that I need to pray more and with greater fervor.

If satan attacks me he may just get me to fall (in my fall maybe a handful of people will come along at most). If satan attacks a Priest he attacks hundred or thousands. If satan attacks high-profile priests like Father Marcel Maciel or most recently Father Alberto (popular with Spanish-speaking Catholics as he reaches people through television, radio, and print) then he can affect hundreds of thousands or even millions. Today, I was listening to commentary on the Spanish channel because of the breaking news on Father Alberto. Catholics were saying that priests should be allowed to marry. I heard people so disillusioned with their faith and left wondering who they can trust. I heard people commenting that he was a man and as such it was not a big deal because men are weak. The flock is running amuck and these are the consequences. Few people are grounded enough in their faith, in the truth, to be able see beyond this. His sin will affect others as we know sin does – it is far reaching not a personal.

I know that sin comes from flesh, world, and the devil. We need to pray more for our priests. We need to desire their protection as much as we desire it for our loved ones. We will never know the temptations they face. Many of them may not be as graced as Padre Pio to contend with the devil. If you don’t already, please pray for your priests and encourage others to do the same (offer sacrifices for them/fast/etc). We need to stand-up to satan and let him know that enough is enough.:knight2:
Amen we really do need to pray for our priests more and more! Great insight here!!! It’s so sad that it has come to this.
 
No need for a dispensation if he turns Episcopalian. If he wants to choose from a menu of doctrine, wouldn’t that have been the most non hypocritical option to begin with? The problem though, with being an Episcopal priest is that you are pretty much expected to marry, and it doesn’t look as though he’s interested in “settling down”. His days of living a fast life in the Cathlic priesthood though, are numbered.
Well, unfortunately, he will be a priest until the day that he dies. The most that the Church can do is give him a dispensation from celibacy in order to marry, provided that he requests it. Now comes the next bit of hard news. Pope Benedict has told secular priests and religious brothers not to bother asking for dispensations, regardless the reason. We have a shortage of religious brothers and diocesan priests. The only ones who have a surplus of priests are monastic orders; but those priests are not allowed to serve the laity or have any contact with the laity for fear of contamination.

At the moment, the most that can happen is that he be suspended by the local bishop. That may happen, if he continues to turn this into a media circuis. Thus far, he is on leave of absence to think and pray about this situation.

There are other options that the Church can offer him, but it doesn’t sound like he’s interested in them. At least, he has not mentioned them in his rounds.

My position is that this is an issue between Fr. Albert, the archbishop and God. I’m more concerned with the people in his parish. They have lost three beloved pastors back to back. They need our prayers.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
No need for a dispensation if he turns Episcopalian. If he wants to choose from a menu of doctrine, wouldn’t that have been the most non hypocritical option to begin with? The problem though, with being an Episcopal priest is that you are pretty much expected to marry, and it doesn’t look as though he’s interested in “settling down”. His days of living a fast life in the Cathlic priesthood though, are numbered.
His days in the fast lane as a Catholic priest are not numbered, they have come to an end. He has some canonical choices that he can follow.
  1. He can ask another bishop to accept him in his diocese.
  2. He can ask a religious order to accept him.
  3. He can take a sabbatical and do something different (i.e. go to school, work, go on a one year retreat at some cloister, travel or other).
  4. He can ask for an extended leave of absence and live as a lay man up to five years, then he must return to active ministry.
  5. If he has serious psychological conflicts there are centers for priests and religious that offer long-term support and care and they’re not hospitals. You can function as a priest while in treatment.
  6. Finally, he can ask for the dispensation, but there is no guarrantee that he will get it, because the Holy Father does not believe this is sufficient reason to leave the secular priesthood or the brotherhood. This is a situation that can be repaired through absolution, contrition and a change in the person’s way of life.
I am still praying for his parishioners, because they have suffered many losses. As to those who feel confused, because they followed him, I just have to say one thing. Truth is truth regardless where it comes from. The sinner’s choices do not change the truth that the sinner teaches. That’s like saying that a doctor with cancer cannot cure cancer. It does not work that way.

If God ever gave you a spiritual gift through Fr. Albert, be thankful and do not doubt God’s mercy. It is not dependent on the messenger, it is dependent on the sender.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I wonder how his lady friend feels about this?..They have carried on for 2 years according to him…She might get dumped just like he dumped his promises to God
Is the priest’s lady friend one of his parishioners? Could a priest be charged with sexual harrassment in such a circumstance?
 
Is the priest’s lady friend one of his parishioners? Could a priest be charged with sexual harrassment in such a circumstance?
She is a parishioner. No, he cannot be charged with sexual harassment. She and he have been friends for 10 years. They have been romantically involved for two years. She is a consenting adult.

Additionally, it is unfair to say that he has abandoned his “priestly vows”. THE MAN NEVER MADE VOWS. Everyone is forgetting that WE’RE TALKING ABOUT A SECULAR PRIEST not a religioius. Secular priests do not make vows. That’s why they’re called secular. They are ordained deacons, priests and consecrated bishop, but they never lose their secular state. They are as secular as the man in the pew. The difference is they are ordained. The prerequisite for ordination of a secular priest is a promise of celibacy. A promise is not a vow and does not it carry the same weight when it it violeted as does a solemn vow.

If a religious violates the solemn vow of chastity he is automatically excommunicated, whether he is a brother, priest, or cloistered nun. A person in simple promises has no vows, they are not excommunicated, nor is a person in simple vows. The other state that has solemn vows is marriage. That’s why you are excommunicated, if you attempt a second marriage while the first is still in effect.

Fr. Albert has not abandoned any vows. He has broken a promise. But the promise is still in effect and he is still bound by it until such time as the Church gives him a dispensation from it. This is the reason why the bishop cannot suspend him. The most the bishop can do is to ask him to take a leave of absence to sort through all this.

If he teaches something that is contrary to the teaching of the Church, he can be suspended. If he does not resolve the situation within the time that the bishop may have alloted him, he can also be suspended. If he adds another scandal to this, he can also be suspended. But if all he’s doing is discerning what to do next, it is unlikely that he will be suspended, because that’s what the Church wants people in his position to do: think, pray and seek help.

The other thing that can be said in his defence is that he has not spoken out against celibacy. He said that he failed, but that celibacy is good for the priesthood and for the Church. He does believe that it should be an option; but that is an opinion and not an immoral one.

He also said that the Church tries to achieve an ideal and that he believes that many priests, religious and seminarians are striving for that ideal and succeeding. He also said that he does not know if he is cut out for this ideal and that he recognizes that what he did was wrong, bad for the Church, his parish, his family and friends, his fellow priests and for his bishop.

He has agreed not to speak in public about his plans for the future in until he speaks with his bishop again, but getting married is not out of the question, nor is staying in the priesthood out of the question. He is in a conflictive state. I can understand that. He also realizes that if he chooses to marry, he will have to leave the Church, because dispensations are not being granted.

Unless the Holy Father makes an exception and grants him a dispensation, the only options that I see within the Church are the ones that I posted above. If he leaves the Church to marry, he excommunicates himself. That’s between him, God and his bishop.

This is the kind of issue that is best left to Fr. Albert, spiritual directors, bishops and canonists. There are too many issues for the average man and woman on CAF to solve without knowing what is happening in the internal forum. For all we know arrangements could be in progress for him to join the Missionaries of Charity and go off to India (just an example, not fact).

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I just see two people in love and I think that he will be laicized and get married and that
he will be a wonderful father.

God has His reasons and MAYBE he was introduced to the general public thru the priesthood but God wants him elsewhere.

I wonder if he can be a Deacon when he marries, this I do not know, but it would be a shame if he can’t continue to help people with their faith journey because he is apparently very good at it.

Father Cutie’s situation is TOTALLY unrelated to child abuse and molestation. There’s a huge difference between a consenting adult and an innocent child.

I cannot understand how some are making such a ridiculous equation.
 
She is a parishioner. No, he cannot be charged with sexual harassment. She and he have been friends for 10 years. They have been romantically involved for two years. She is a consenting adult.

Additionally, it is unfair to say that he has abandoned his “priestly vows”. THE MAN NEVER MADE VOWS. Everyone is forgetting that WE’RE TALKING ABOUT A SECULAR PRIEST not a religioius. Secular priests do not make vows. That’s why they’re called secular. They are ordained deacons, priests and consecrated bishop, but they never lose their secular state. They are as secular as the man in the pew. The difference is they are ordained. The prerequisite for ordination of a secular priest is a promise of celibacy. A promise is not a vow and does not it carry the same weight when it it violeted as does a solemn vow.

If a religious violates the solemn vow of chastity he is automatically excommunicated, whether he is a brother, priest, or cloistered nun. A person in simple promises has no vows, they are not excommunicated, nor is a person in simple vows. The other state that has solemn vows is marriage. That’s why you are excommunicated, if you attempt a second marriage while the first is still in effect.

Fr. Albert has not abandoned any vows. He has broken a promise. But the promise is still in effect and he is still bound by it until such time as the Church gives him a dispensation from it. This is the reason why the bishop cannot suspend him. The most the bishop can do is to ask him to take a leave of absence to sort through all this.

If he teaches something that is contrary to the teaching of the Church, he can be suspended. If he does not resolve the situation within the time that the bishop may have alloted him, he can also be suspended. If he adds another scandal to this, he can also be suspended. But if all he’s doing is discerning what to do next, it is unlikely that he will be suspended, because that’s what the Church wants people in his position to do: think, pray and seek help.

The other thing that can be said in his defence is that he has not spoken out against celibacy. He said that he failed, but that celibacy is good for the priesthood and for the Church. He does believe that it should be an option; but that is an opinion and not an immoral one.

He also said that the Church tries to achieve an ideal and that he believes that many priests, religious and seminarians are striving for that ideal and succeeding. He also said that he does not know if he is cut out for this ideal and that he recognizes that what he did was wrong, bad for the Church, his parish, his family and friends, his fellow priests and for his bishop.

He has agreed not to speak in public about his plans for the future in until he speaks with his bishop again, but getting married is not out of the question, nor is staying in the priesthood out of the question. He is in a conflictive state. I can understand that. He also realizes that if he chooses to marry, he will have to leave the Church, because dispensations are not being granted.

Unless the Holy Father makes an exception and grants him a dispensation, the only options that I see within the Church are the ones that I posted above. If he leaves the Church to marry, he excommunicates himself. That’s between him, God and his bishop.

This is the kind of issue that is best left to Fr. Albert, spiritual directors, bishops and canonists. There are too many issues for the average man and woman on CAF to solve without knowing what is happening in the internal forum. For all we know arrangements could be in progress for him to join the Missionaries of Charity and go off to India (just an example, not fact).

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
A wonderful and informative post! Thank you.
 
I just see two people in love and I think that he will be laicized and get married and that
he will be a wonderful father…
Is it OK for a Catholic to marry a divoced woman with children?
 
With a name like “Fr. Cutie”. I guess you have one strike against you to begin with…😉
At least among the conservative Episcopalian folk we know, I don’t think they’d be overly interested in a priest who doesn’t take his vocation seriously.
 
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