Chaperones lead Catholic schoolgirls out from "Nutcracker Suite" performance with same-sex roles, causing criticism, agreement

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Freddy said:
I’m not trying to be funny here, but that’s not my concern. I have no problem with gay people or what they do in the privacy of their own homes. How you manage it is your problem. Maybe treat them as if they were one of your family members.
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Not believing a particular act is a sin is not relevant to how sin - and the people who commit it - should be responded to. Pick anything you do think is sinful and explain how you would treat those who were blatant about committing it.
 
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Freddy:
I’m not trying to be funny here, but that’s not my concern. I have no problem with gay people or what they do in the privacy of their own homes. How you manage it is your problem. Maybe treat them as if they were one of your family members.
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Not believing a particular act is a sin is not relevant to how sin - and the people who commit it - should be responded to. Pick anything you do think is sinful and explain how you would treat those who were blatant about committing it.
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That would vary significantly. If they were a paedophile I would reject them outright. If they had a drinking problem I’d make allowances.
 
Freddy said:
That would vary significantly. If they were a paedophile I would reject them outright. If they had a drinking problem I’d make allowances.
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so you’re saying/implying that you do not consider active homosexuality as being sin… ?
 
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Freddy:
Exactly. They may not have agreed with their sex life but they accepted the people into their church. Perhaps you think gay people should not be made welcome in churches.
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This creates a very fine line between hating the sin and loving the sinner. How reasonable is it to claim to hate the sin while accepting those who are unapologetic about committing it? How is it possible to condemn a sin without condemning those who commit it? What does that look like in practice? “Gee, I condemn that you’re an abortionist, but why don’t we go out for drinks later?” If we’re accepting of unrepentant sinners how serious is our claim to condemn the sin?
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My same-sex partner and I have been members of a Lutheran church that did have some other members who undoubtedly thought that homosexual activity is a sin. We were open about being a couple and one of these members once told us that he thought that homosexual sex is wrong. He didn’t condemn us specifically, although we knew that his comment was directed at us. After that, however, he never said anything to us on this subject again and he treated us in a friendly manner and we treated him in a friendly manner. He was never unfriendly and he never demanded that we leave the church. Do you think that he should have done something differently to make it clearer that he didn’t accept people he considered to be unrepentant sinners?
 
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Freddy:
Correct…
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Curious. Since you’re here on a Catholic Forum,
are you possibly here b/c you want to Convert?
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No. I’ve been here very many years indeed by the way. Way back before the format changed. I like talking about philosophy and theology.
 
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VanitasVanitatum said:
It doesn’t look that way in any shape or form.
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So it seems… And that’s sort of OK
as long as we all remain Intectually Honest … AND…

Open-Mindedness to acceptance of superior argumentation is the key to Growth

Such is the manner by which REASON which seeks “truth/answers” ‘works’
 
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Annie said:
So, not homophobia.
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homo-phobia… phobia of active homosexuals? No…

It still remains a baloney labelling tactic.

Catholicism seeks to assist homosexual persons
as it YES decries active homosexual practices

That’s WHY the baloney PC term, “homophobia” was invented.
 
No. If, as a Catholic you feel we should soft shoe around murder, I doubt I can compel you otherwise.
 
Kindnessmatters said:
No. If, as a Catholic you feel we should soft shoe around murder, I doubt I can compel you otherwise.
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I think the general feeling with the majority of people these days is that two women living together (for example) causes no harm. Whereas that’s obviously not the case with murder. If you treat them equally as something around which you should not soft shoe then you might expect some push back.

We all appreciate that the belief that gay sex is wrong is a religious belief. But the fact that it is only a religious belief is the cause of these problems.
 
Freddy said:
it is only a religious belief is the cause of these problems.
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Could you clarify? Religious chaperones opted not to have their students from a religious school attend a performance which went against the religious beliefs held by their church. there doesn’t seem to be any inconsistency here.
 
I am not sure why you classify Catholic teaching as “only a religious belief” but it isn’t the case. Catholic beliefs are not just made up to restrict what people can do.
 
Deflection. You have stated this as a requirement, to “loudly contest abortion in the public arena”. It is fine to say “In my opinion…” but it is not right to place burdens on people that are more than the light burden of Christ.
 
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