Charismatic Roman Catholicism

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Wow, Mr Walker P, that was quite a mouthful. Please tell me if you are so correct, why did Pope Paul VI, Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI all endorse and encourage the Charismatic prayer Movement. Did the Holy Spirit break his promise to guide them and leave them to come and rest on you. When did that revelation happen. Pray tell. But before you say that they did not do so (as that would show that you did not read everything posted prior to your late arrival on the scene,) I would respectfully suggest that you read the entire thread before you respond to this.
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B
 
AMEN Deacon B! I am astounded at the disbelief in the Charismatic movement. It is part of our faith. I think some reading about this (by those who don’t believe in the Movement) would be quite helpful! God Bless you, Deacon.
 
walker p
This charismatic nonsense is just protestant heresy that has infected the Church. It is time to rid Christ’s Church of this charismatic baloney.
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So by this statement, I take it that you don’t follow the magestarium of the Roman Catholic Church, which has never declared the Charismatic movement, heresy, but in fact, just the opposite.
If someone tells me they were “slain in the Spirit”, I tell them they were demon possessed.
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If God speaks to a person, who are you to say He doesn’t?

Jim
 
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mom4truth said:
AMEN Deacon B! I am astounded at the disbelief in the Charismatic movement. It is part of our faith. I think some reading about this (by those who don’t believe in the Movement) would be quite helpful! God Bless you, Deacon.
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JimR-OCDS said:
If God speaks to a person, who are you to say He doesn’t?
Jim
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mom4truth said:
Jim R:
Amen to you also!
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Are the battle lines forming?
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B
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walker_p said:
Thank you. Well said. I agree totally. This charismatic nonsense is just protestant heresy that has infected the Church. It is time to rid Christ’s Church of this charismatic baloney. If someone tells me they were “slain in the Spirit”, I tell them they were demon possessed. Jesus said “many will say to me on that day 'Lord did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many mighty works. And I will tell them plainly, I never knew you. Depart from me you evil doers.” I think it should say " many pentecostals and charismatics will say to me on that day 'Lord did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many mighty works. And I will tell the charismatics and pentecostals, I never knew you. Depart from me you evil doers.
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CAREFUL there! Do not blaspheme the Holy Spirit! Just because certain Protestant faith communities have overemphasized the Spirit to make up for the lack of the Eucharist, please do not condemn the Spirit and what He accomplishes in the Catholic church.

So, you see lots of false prophets and artificial slayings by the spirit on TV. Turn the stupid TV off! The evil one desires that you reject the Spirit, so he causes this schlock on TV to poison minds against the Spirit.

The greatest accomplishment of the evil one in the Catholic church is that he has caused many Catholics to disbelieve in the Holy Spirit. Talk about the mark of the demon!

Call me what you want, but yes, a Priest laid hands on me and I was slayed in the spirit. My faith life exploded into action. I lost my fear of the faith. I began learning, listening to Catholic radio, speaking to others about my faith. I began going to Adoration. I have begun the Rosary.

Yeah, sounds like real demon possession alright! Read your words again to see what you actually said. Just what is it exactly that you are afraid of?
 
Amen,and my sentiments exactly. We have a lot of mini-popes out there, evidently. They (the Popes you mentioned) have all called it important for the renewal of the Church, but I’m glad we are now corrected, and won’t be mislead by those who wear the ring and have the seal of Peter, who have given us such erroneous information according to the critics.

By the way, the healings and such there have been many healings, for example Fr. Dioro in the past, a current priest drawing thousands (don’t recall his name), and others. As far as slain in the Spirit, how about in Daniel when he fell and the angel was there etc. It’s actually resting in the Spirit, but there have been certain people, a couple of well know healing priests I’ve been at when he walked by sprinkling holy water on all, and blessed salt, my knees buckled when he went by, quite unexpectedly, the power of the Holt Spirit was so very strong, and I am quite certain angels were attending to this. How about in Revelations bowing down, worshipping the Lamb, how about at ordination being prostrate. All of these things and more are a posture of falling down to Him who is all powerful. How about Paul being knocked off his horse and blinded until he knew fully the truth of Him he persecuted? God works in many ways.
Deacon_Ed_B said:
Wow, Mr Walker P, that was quite a mouthful. Please tell me if you are so correct, why did Pope Paul VI, Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI all endorse and encourage the Charismatic prayer Movement. Did the Holy Spirit break his promise to guide them and leave them to come and rest on you. When did that revelation happen. Pray tell. But before you say that they did not do so (as that would show that you did not read everything posted prior to your late arrival on the scene,) I would respectfully suggest that you read the entire thread before you respond to this.
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B
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christisall said:
Amen,and my sentiments exactly. We have a lot of mini-popes out there, evidently. They (the Popes you mentioned) have all called it important for the renewal of the Church, but I’m glad we are now corrected, and won’t be mislead by those who wear the ring and have the seal of Peter, who have given us such erroneous information according to the critics.

By the way, the healings and such there have been many healings, for example Fr. Dioro in the past, a current priest drawing thousands (don’t recall his name), and others. As far as slain in the Spirit, how about in Daniel when he fell and the angel was there etc. It’s actually resting in the Spirit, but there have been certain people, a couple of well know healing priests I’ve been at when he walked by sprinkling holy water on all, and blessed salt, my knees buckled when he went by, quite unexpectedly, the power of the Holt Spirit was so very strong, and I am quite certain angels were attending to this. How about in Revelations bowing down, worshipping the Lamb, how about at ordination being prostrate. All of these things and more are a posture of falling down to Him who is all powerful. How about Paul being knocked off his horse and blinded until he knew fully the truth of Him he persecuted? God works in many ways.
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I attended a couple of Fr Diorio’s healing Masses, back in 1975, when he was just starting. He was the parish priest at that parish in my town.

Jim
 
christisall said:
Amen,and my sentiments exactly. We have a lot of mini-popes out there, evidently. They (the Popes you mentioned) have all called it important for the renewal of the Church, but I’m glad we are now corrected, and won’t be mislead by those who wear the ring and have the seal of Peter, who have given us such erroneous information according to the critics.

By the way, the healings and such there have been many healings, for example Fr. Dioro in the past, a current priest drawing thousands (don’t recall his name), and others. As far as slain in the Spirit, how about in Daniel when he fell and the angel was there etc. It’s actually resting in the Spirit, but there have been certain people, a couple of well know healing priests I’ve been at when he walked by sprinkling holy water on all, and blessed salt, my knees buckled when he went by, quite unexpectedly, the power of the Holt Spirit was so very strong, and I am quite certain angels were attending to this. How about in Revelations bowing down, worshipping the Lamb, how about at ordination being prostrate. All of these things and more are a posture of falling down to Him who is all powerful. How about Paul being knocked off his horse and blinded until he knew fully the truth of Him he persecuted? God works in many ways.
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A priest friend of ours was at one of his healing services, just observing he said, there was a man sitting in a wheel chair beside him in the isle. He really hadn’t paid much attention to him though, but he realized he was missing part of one leg. Then out of the cornor of his eye, he saw something impossible for anyone but God. The man’s leg grew, until it was a normal leg. Glory to God!
 
What we are saying is that as much as some would have us believe otherwise, the age of miracles is not over. I too have seen miracles. I can assure you, there was nothing of Satan in what I saw.
Prayers & Blessings
Deacon Ed B
 
Pani_Rose said:
A priest friend of ours was at one of his healing services, just observing he said, there was a man sitting in a wheel chair beside him in the isle. He really hadn’t paid much attention to him though, but he realized he was missing part of one leg. Then out of the cornor of his eye, he saw something impossible for anyone but God. The man’s leg grew, until it was a normal leg. Glory to God!
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That is a creative miracle. Such things do happen. Nothing is impossible for God.

Many years ago I attended a session in Atlanta by a visiting priest from Taiwan, Fr. Richard Wang. When he prayed for people who had uneven legs, we saw the shorter leg grow to the same length as the other, right in front of our eyes. The power of God is real. I received the "prayer in tongue’ in that session.

Fr. Richard Wang is the pioneer of Catholic Charismatic Movement in Taiwan. He had conducted numerous healing sessions and many were healed. He has gone home with the Lord. Several thousand people attended his funeral. I flew oversea to attend. Forty priests said his funeral Mass together.
 
Deacon_Ed_B said:
What we are saying is that as much as some would have us believe otherwise, the age of miracles is not over. I too have seen miracles. I can assure you, there was nothing of Satan in what I saw.
Prayers & Blessings
Deacon Ed B
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Amen Deacon Ed,

Scripture clearly says Satan is not going to fight himself.
That is because he knows God is victorius in everything. :extrahappy:
 
InLight247 said:
That is a creative miracle. Such things do happen. Nothing is impossible for God.

Many years ago I attended a session in Atlanta by a visiting priest from Taiwan, Fr. Richard Wang. When he prayed for people who had uneven legs, we saw the shorter leg grow to the same length as the other, right in front of our eyes. The power of God is real. I received the "prayer in tongue’ in that session.

Fr. Richard Wang is the pioneer of Catholic Charismatic Movement in Taiwan. He had conducted numerous healing sessions and many were healed. He has gone home with the Lord. Several thousand people attended his funeral. I flew oversea to attend. Forty priests said his funeral Mass together.
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InLight what a blessing to be able to travel to such places and see the works of the Lord through the hands of his priest.

Yes, we too have been blessed to see and be apart of many miracle healings. **It is truly a humbling thing to stand in the presence of God in his people, while he(GOD) is doing the work. **

One man in particular, who in many ways was a modern day Job, a middle aged black man, who had been cheated out of his inheritance and the care his mother had made for him as he was crippled all of his life. Through circumstances he had become somewhat of an alcoholic, but even with the little that he had and the way he was, he always tried to do something for others. We prayed with him one night, along with a priest, in front of the Tabernacle - at the time, I had never known what a nest of spirits was. Well, I found out that night, as he regergitated them right there. They are the most well - they must be what hell smells like.

OH my gosh, the man was free! I tell you he was dancing around the Church, shouting with joy, he was on crutches before. Totally free! He has sence gone to eternal rest, but he got to live the rest of his life in peace.

WHAT A MIGHTY GOD WE SERVE!

I could tell you many more, but that one is the one that jumped out at me. God is so good!
 
Greetings folks!
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 God Bless all........been a while since I have written here, been very busy working......I love the last two responses ......I too have seen the hands of God move in mighty ways and it is just plain foolish to think otherwise.   we are speaking of our almighty Father!  Creator of heaven and earth........and when we say that He is no longer moving in miracles,   we are demeaning His very power!  The scriptures are so clear.......and the church doesnt override scripture.....and shouldnt.
 I have a plaque on my desk that reads like this.....FAITH IS........believing God will do what He said He would and everything you say and do is based upon that belief.........FAITH>
The book of hebrews tells us about what all was done in faith…by the saints before us!!! and we are the end times???Jesus told the disciples that they and their disciples would do greater things than HE!!! that would be you and me…anyway I just know that I love Him, my precious Jesus, and I desire to be just like Him…I desire to be like my teacher…all for His glory, so that others will know who He is and want what I have…amen…God Bless all of you…Hi Deacon Ed…God is doing great things!!!

Debbie
 
To deborahsont - Welcome back to the forum. Good to hear from you again. Good post. Hope to hear more from you
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B
 
Wow! here i am catholic and just finished studying: actually still engaged in study …Hebrew…andnlet em dsay this…this blog proves what I JUST FINISHED! Let me share…to the Hebrew mind…thrie thinking is this…God says it, they did it…NOw I am talking about ancient Godly Hebrews…the Greek way of history is …thinking and stuyding somehting until thye pull it apart BEFORE obeying…It IS phiosophical…I am here to tell you we as christiasn must get this unity thing down…we must! We have no choice…because not doing os???we are hindering God to move in our lives…
It also proves something grave…many christians are CARNAL…they do not have a clue about what Gods words says…they take others word …I am grieved about what I hear but I am not surprised at all…Thouhg the church may be ancient…this type of reasoning among beleivers is why there are so many denominations and divisions. Jesus said in Matthe…My chidlren WILL KNOW my voice…not maybe but will…Mark 16 says GO inot all of tehw orld and make disicples…look up disciples…and them read Acts chapter 4…then realize that what they prayed was answered all through the new Testament…signs and wodners…and is still going on today!!!
would those who object to the move of God, His power, please show me where in scripture it says that God no longer moves or works like He did? Please show us exactly…I am so tired of hearing the denying of Gods power? It makes me so sad…for those who feel the way they do…My hope every single day is that GOd is who He says and He does what he says…trust me…His power is real and as you read through His Holy word, you will see Him in greater measure…Jesus said…You will do greater things than these…he was spekaing of the miracles He performed and signs and wonders…how aweosme and to God be the glory…I am alive and have great reverance for the catholic church…my heritage…and I also know Gods most Holy word…and I know WHOSE I am…that is the key…I know whose I am!!! anyway may the Lord bless all and may you see His goodness in power and might…For He is God!!!

Blessings to all…Lord have mercy, Christ have mercy, Lord have mercy on me…on us…

Debbie
 
continuing with Debs thoughts, I try to pray the Scriptures when I pray for people, but today from spiritdaily.com kind of hit it on the nail 😃

“Grant to your servants, even as they speak Your words, complete assurance by stretching forth Your Hand in cures and signs and wonders to be worked in the Name of Jesus, Your holy servant,” was the prayer of the apostles.

Through their hands, says Acts 5:12, “many signs and wonders occurred among the people.”
 
Pani_Rose said:
continuing with Debs thoughts, I try to pray the Scriptures when I pray for people, but today from spiritdaily.com kind of hit it on the nail 😃

“Grant to your servants, even as they speak Your words, complete assurance by stretching forth Your Hand in cures and signs and wonders to be worked in the Name of Jesus, Your holy servant,” was the prayer of the apostles.

Through their hands, says Acts 5:12, “many signs and wonders occurred among the people.”
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Through the hands of his servants today, God still works wonders that build up his kingdom. God is with us. He has not left us. He is here.
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B
 
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