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jimmy
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Christians have a sense of memory too. The difference is that we don’t have a superiority complex that makes us permanently offended when something bad happens to us.
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ltravis
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The Pope has made public statements in defense of the Jews who suffered the holocost. That is well and good and the Jews have a right to pay attention to such public statements, good or bad. However, regarding the reinstatement of the bishop - where do they get off telling our pope how to run his church???
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JimR-OCDS
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So there are folks here who see no good in the bridges Pope John Paul II built between the Church and Jews.
I can’t believe I read these statements.
What good did it do?
How about putting behind us, the centuries bad blood which over the centuries has caused blood shed and suffering.
Reaching out to others of different religions, is very important. The more respect we show each other, the closer we can come together, not necessarily to convert people, but at least to open hearts and minds in listening to each other.
Jesus reached out to the Samaritans, who were bitter enemies of the Jews. There are people here who would ask, “what good did it do?” Pope John Paul II did what Jesus did and it did more good than harm.
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I can’t believe I read these statements.
What good did it do?
How about putting behind us, the centuries bad blood which over the centuries has caused blood shed and suffering.
Reaching out to others of different religions, is very important. The more respect we show each other, the closer we can come together, not necessarily to convert people, but at least to open hearts and minds in listening to each other.
Jesus reached out to the Samaritans, who were bitter enemies of the Jews. There are people here who would ask, “what good did it do?” Pope John Paul II did what Jesus did and it did more good than harm.
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Paradox2080
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Pope Benedict is doing what’s Catholic; personally i couldn’t care less about what the Jewish people think of us Catholics.
God Bless Pope Benedict XVI
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bpcatholic
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The Pope didn’t even reinstate him to my knowledge.
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RyanML
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I am all for reaching out to those of other faiths and being open to others’ experiences of God. And in the case of the Jews, asking forgiveness for past hurts was an important step forward. But, if in our ecumenical work and dialogue we put Jesus Christ in the background, then we do a disservice to our neighbor. Ecumenism is one thing, indifference is another. God bless!
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Pro_Domina
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Ah, I applaud when of the “ecumenical” brothers get angry. It is usually a good sign.
But this time it is a dubius thing…
The Holy Father is not always the only man who has a say in final decisions.
Every good roman knows that the boss is many times subject to the officially lower guy. You know, like the prefect of a congregation is only the public guy, but the ones who really have a say are the monsignor…
Anyhow, maybe they are not excommunicated anymore, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t in mortal sin anymore.
I only fear that the Vatican will not suffer physical damage…
America is only a posterboy target.
The real hate is against the real Church.
And the Jews are just as bad as the muslim terrorists and worst, because they do as they please without a single punishment.
Deicide was not enough…
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ibkc
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Reaching out, great. Letting the leaders of other religions dictate how the Church conducts its internal business? No way, sorry.
Christianity is evangelical by nature. That is what we are called to do - bring the whole world to Christ. If we do not put that first, we have ceased to be Christians.
I can’t believe this has to be explained to someone who claims to be Catholic.
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Polaris
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jimmy
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So is Pope Benedict supposed to deny the faith to appease the Jews? The relationship to the Jews is secondary to the relationship with the rest of the Christians. If there is an opportunity for union among Christians and the Jews have a problem with it then tough luck. The Jews are going to have to get over their bitterness. P. Benedict did the right thing here and if it causes the Jews to break relations with Rome then so be it. It obviously means that the Jews aren’t ready to have a two way dialogue (they only want a monologue where they dictate).
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jimmy
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There is no reason for this. It is just anti-semitism.
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Adonis33
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How many converts did this bridge bring to Holy Mother Church?
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benedictgal
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With all due respect, that is a bit of a stretch. Sometimes, bridges are built that lead to nowhere. One can extend the hand of friendship only so many times until the other party bites it and makes it bleed.
Remember, too, that the Samaritans were also children of Abraham. Their break with the Jews resulted from the fact that worship was moved from the mountain to the Temple. So, Jesus, was, in effect, reconciling things with his own house as well. Although, we should bear to mind that he came first to the lost sheep of the House of Israel.
Ecumenism is important. However, it should not be done at the expense of the Faith of the Church.
Pope Benedict is doing what he believes is best for the Church. The fact that Bishop Fellay condemned Bishop Williamson should be enough of a sign that Fellay does not approve of what was said and he does not want to further the work of reconciliation that Pope Benedict is doing within the Church. Remember, we need to reconcile with our own folks before we can start building bridges with others.
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Mattapoisett64
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In what way would declining to lift the excommunication from an arrogant, conspiracy-mongering, anti-Semitic closet-sedevacantist be “denying the faith?”
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keeppreachin
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No sweat off our backs.
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redrosetea
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Perhaps the Rabbi’s should show a bit of concern for the mistreatment of the Palestinian Christians in Israel?
I think 3 fingers are pointing right back at them!
I think 3 fingers are pointing right back at them!
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Freshman88
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What a childish attempt to try to bully Holy Mother Church and the Vicar of St. Peter.
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RyanML
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Indeed. It was very wise for the Church to remove such language from her vocabulary. It is untrue, uncharitable, and certainly does not help in sharing Jesus Christ with our Jewish brothers and sisters.
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Eucharisted
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That’s my reaction to the news too.
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Holly3278
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Personally, I fully support Pope Benedict XVI and I believe he did this for the good of the Church. 
It is sad that we have angered the Jews though.
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