Chik-fil-A Stands Up for Traditional Marriage

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Rich_Olszewski said:
They’re a bit over the top, me thinks. When Mother Teresa came to LR some decades ago to help dedicate a convent for them, she insisted that the A/C be taken out before the nuns would move in. I lost a lot of respect for her that day. Didn’t she trust her nuns not to turn it on? Couldn’t an electrician just disconnect the wiring if she didn’t trust them? 🤷
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Perhaps, rather than assume Mother had trust issues, you could assume she wanted to make the sisters’ sacrifice easier by removing the temptation. I’m sorry you lost respect for her…it’s your loss.
 
Well they do take a vow of poverty to God. That shouldn’t be taken lightly. Maybe it was forced air? But if it wasn’t, they would have needed the windows open for some air circulation they are still humans.
 
rlg94086 said:
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Perhaps, rather than assume Mother had trust issues, you could assume she wanted to make the sisters’ sacrifice easier by removing the temptation. I’m sorry you lost respect for her…it’s your loss.
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As the saying goes, if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off…
 
rlg94086 said:
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Perhaps, rather than assume Mother had trust issues, you could assume she wanted to make the sisters’ sacrifice easier by removing the temptation.
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If that’s not a trust issue…
I’m sorry you lost respect for her…it’s your loss.
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Not at all. I have my own heroes among religious orders - primarily the Jesuits and the Maryknoll Fathers.
 
rlg94086 said:
I explained how it might be out of love rather than a trust issue. Again, did you actually read my post? 🤷
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How is it a love issue? She loves them so much that she doesn’t trust them to leave their hands off the A/C on-off switch?

I may be wrong about this one - I understand that she also ordered the floor rugs removed lest the nuns have too much comfort walking through that donated home.
But, those who want that life may have it. 🤷
 
pete_29 said:
Is someone who can “lose respect” for someone like Mother Theresa worth arguing with? 🤷
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There were those who were disturbed by her accepting rides in that rich man’s (can’t remember his name) private jet. He did time in jail in connection with a real estate scandal he was involved in. There is better company to be had. 🙂
 
pete_29 said:
Is someone who can “lose respect” for someone like Mother Theresa worth arguing with? 🤷
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Good point. Besides, his post after yours shows he still doesn’t get it. I doubt that further explanation will help.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
There were those who were disturbed by her accepting rides in that rich man’s (can’t remember his name) private jet. He did time in jail in connection with a real estate scandal he was involved in. There is better company to be had. 🙂
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Jesus was friends with tax collectors and prostitutes and she had no money how was she supposed to pay for a flight?
 
rlg94086 said:
Good point. Besides, his post after yours shows he still doesn’t get it. I doubt that further explanation will help.
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No, it won’t. I admire alot about her, but don’t idolize her. But, please; feel free.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
No, it won’t. I admire alot about her, but don’t idolize her. But, please; feel free.
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Okay…let me give it a try, even though you have just made it clear that further explanation won’t help you.

If a spouse removes all liquor from the house because her spouse is struggling with alcoholism, it’s an act of love.

If a parent moves a computer out of their teen’s bedroom and puts porn filters on it, it is an act of love.

Should I go on?

Removing temptations from those you love is a good thing, not a “trust issue” that should cause you to lose respect for a person.

Oh, and those of us, the Church included, who recognize Mother Teresa’s holiness and assume she is acting out of love rather than assuming the worst, don’t “idolize” her. Have you been studying the works of Christopher Hitchens, lately?
 
Mother Teresa opened an orphanage and a home for lepers, who received medical attention. The Lancet and the British Medical Journal, however, both criticized the quality of medical care she made available, reporting reused syringes, poor living conditions, and cold baths for all patients. Patients who might otherwise have survived died of infection and other easily diagnosable diseases because of the slipshod practices at her hospices. Mother Teresa herself did not believe in pain relief: she felt that suffering would bring people closer to Jesus. 🤷

This is off topic and the last I shall say about this.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Mother Teresa opened an orphanage and a home for lepers, who received medical attention. The Lancet and the British Medical Journal, however, both criticized the quality of medical care she made available, reporting reused syringes, poor living conditions, and cold baths for all patients. Patients who might otherwise have survived died of infection and other easily diagnosable diseases because of the slipshod practices at her hospices. Mother Teresa herself did not believe in pain relief: she felt that suffering would bring people closer to Jesus. 🤷

This is off topic and the last I shall say about this.
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Sure. Make a final jab and then exit the scene of the crime…
 
rlg94086 said:
If a spouse removes all liquor from the house because her spouse is struggling with alcoholism, it’s an act of love.
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Okay. And what was the problem that the nuns had that called for her draconian measures?
If a parent moves a computer out of their teen’s bedroom and puts porn filters on it, it is an act of love.
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Hardly a problem with those nuns, but throwing out mattresses and making the nuns sleep on the bare wooden floor might have been a health problem for them.
Oh, and those of us, the Church included, who recognize Mother Theresa’s holiness and assume she is acting out of love rather than assuming the worst, don’t “idolize” her.
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I’d not assume anything either, unless there were some evidence that proves or disproves some assertion.
Have you been studying the works of Christopher Hitchens, lately?
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Never read anything he’s written except some columns. He’s a good writer, you know.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Okay. And what was the problem that the nuns had that called for her draconian measures?

Hardly a problem with those nuns, but throwing out mattresses and making the nuns sleep on the bare wooden floor might have been a health problem for them.
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You were right…nothing is going to help you’re lack of understanding. You apparently don’t believe a person who took a vow of poverty would be tempted by an air conditioner or mattress. 😛

Btw…you’ve now shifted from “trust issues” to determining that the living conditions of the nuns were bad for them. Just more of the same…

You should probably let the Church know they should reverse the beatification process, since you believe she was “draconian” and caused the death of the poor who received medical attention from her order. 😦
Rich_Olszewski said:
I’d not assume anything either, unless there were some evidence that proves or disproves some assertion.
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Yes, you did. You assumed she had “trust issues” and because of that you “lost respect for her.” Did you already forget you posted that?
 
rlg94086 said:
You were right…nothing is going to help you’re lack of understanding. You apparently don’t believe a person who took a vow of poverty would be tempted by an air conditioner or mattress. 😛
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Are all religious who take vows of poverty live like those nuns of hers did? Need they do so? How does A/C or a mattress relate to a vow of poverty?
You should probably let the Church know they should reverse the beatification process, since you believe she was “draconian” and caused the death of the poor who received medical attention from her order. 😦
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Was there no neglect on her order’s part or were those British physicians liars? Are you aware that one can be canonized without being perfect in this life?
You assumed she had “trust issues” and because of that you “lost respect for her.”
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Her actions point to trust rather than love issues. You presume that she was perfect. I think she was not.

Again, this is all off-topic, but if you want to continue this discussion, PM me.
 
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