Children and corporal punishment

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Wesrock said:
Nowadays you try to tell a parent, even discreetly, that you’re concerned about their kid’s behavior they’ll 9 times out of 10 get very defensive.

Boy, I feel old.
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I remember parents when I was a kid who just couldn’t imagine their child doing wrong, even when confronted with evidence. It’s not a new thing.
 
Your ID name implies that you believe in the Bible though, so it’s a little confusing that you are contradicting the Bible on this.
 
Spanking someone has nothing to do with the Bible. People of my generation view this different than other generations. I cannot claim to understand other generations. Other generations cannot claim to understand my generation
 
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I did not say my generation is special. I could care less about that. All I said was, I think spanking is bad because I grew up in a culture that says it’s bad. You didn’t so you think different.

I’m done commenting on this because everyone is intentionally misunderstanding me
 
The Bible says, Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of reproof shall drive it far from him.
 
Gingersnaps4 said:
Your ID name implies that you believe in the Bible though, so it’s a little confusing that you are contradicting the Bible on this.
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Do you think St. John Chrysostum contradicts the Bible? St. John Bosco? St. Jean Baptiste de la Salle?
 
I agree, strict physical punishment was already going out of style by the 1970’s, I’d say.
 
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Physical punishment never ‘goes out of style.’ That’s just the way it is. I was there in the 1970s.
 
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Do you think St. John Chrysostum contradicts the Bible? St. John Bosco? St. Jean Baptiste de la Salle?
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Do they advocate for children not obeying their parents and being buddies, instead? That is the point I’m addressing here.
 
GospelOfMatthew said:
Spanking someone has nothing to do with the Bible. People of my generation view this different than other generations. I cannot claim to understand other generations. Other generations cannot claim to understand my generation
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The Bible does advocate spanking but, what I was referring to there is how the Bible says children are to OBEY and parents are an authority over their children.
 
Because you keep denying both Scripture and the teachings of the Church.
 
I never said children shouldn’t listen to their parents. They should and they must. But I’m saying they should do it out of love not fear of punishment.

My opinion is my own, we can all have our opinions
 
Yes, that’s the ideal. If a parent tells their three year old not to run out into the street, hopefully they obey happily, out of love. That’s not always gonna happen, though. Three year olds are little crazy people. They’re not rational or mature emotionally. Sometimes all they understand is “if you do x after I’ve told you not to, you will be punished.” (Which doesn’t have to be physical; could be something like losing access to a toy for a while or something.)
 
Abstract to a study done in Sweden about corporal punishment (the results are very surprising!):
Two recent reviews of parental corporal punishment have found little sound evidence of detrimental child outcomes such as child aggression. This paper explores whether the 1979 Swedish law against all corporal punishment has reduced their child abuse. Sweden’s 1979 law was welcomed by many as a much needed policy toward reducing physical child abuse. Surprisingly, this search located only five published studies with any relevant data. The best study found that the rate of child abuse was 49% higher in Sweden than in the United States, comparing a 1980 Swedish national survey with the average rates from two national surveys in the United States in 1975 and 1985. By comparison, a retrospective survey of university students in 1981 found that the Swedish child abuse rate was 21% of the USA rate in the 1960s and the 1970s, prior to the anti-spanking law. More recent Swedish data indicate a 489% increase in one child abuse statistic from 1981 through 1994, as well as a 672% increase in assaults by minors against minors. The article discusses possible reasons for this apparent increase in child abuse and calls for better evaluations of innovative policies intended to reduce societal abuse and violence.
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The study can be seen here…
 
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