Children with gay parents

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pnewton said:
I do not know that the Church has ever spoken on this issue. It is a fairly new problem. Homosexuality, as it gains more acceptance, gives rise to new problems.
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Its far from a new problem, homosxuality is not new and there have been court cases close to 30yrs old now. As again this is not adoption rights, thats a differant story.
 
Jermosh said:
Its far from a new problem, homosxuality is not new and there have been court cases close to 30yrs old now. As again this is not adoption rights, thats a differant story.
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What is new, and where this problem stems, is allowing homosexuals to marry and have spousal rights. What is new is treating these bizarre entities like they are a family, which they are decidedly not. We are only begining to see the nasty can of worms that is being opened by normalizing gay couples and gay families.
 
pnewton said:
What is new, and where this problem stems, is allowing homosexuals to marry and have spousal rights. What is new is treating these bizarre entities like they are a family, which they are decidedly not. We are only begining to see the nasty can of worms that is being opened by normalizing gay couples and gay families.
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What can of worms is this?
 
StrawberryJam said:
Maybe she is referring to this can of worms. The unbrideld bullying that christians will give them for doing it.

Here’s what they did to gay children in schools.
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No, that is a school. It has nothing to do with this topic.
 
pnewton said:
No, that is a school. It has nothing to do with this topic.
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Sure it does. The bullying came from “faith” filled folks like you all here. That’s the only “can of worms” I can see coming from all this.
 
Elizabeth502 said:
There are no bullies on this thread. Get a grip.
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Read the OP again, and tell me that in a sincere heart.

Has everyone forgotten what this guy is asking?

I still dont know what the “can of worms” comment was going to reveal to us. Silence there.
 
StrawberryJam said:
Sure it does. The bullying came from “faith” filled folks like you all here. That’s the only “can of worms” I can see coming from all this.
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Don’t be ridiculous. No one is saying anything about being a bully except you. Here are a few problems that are getting sticky.

Child adoption by homosexuals
Child custody when one person is the real parent and the other the sex partner
The legal tension between the right of an employer to exercise free religion vs. homosexuals demanding equal treatment like a real family.

FYI - I am not obligated to answer every question I deem ridiculous, nor to answer anything by a dictated time frame. Please do not assume the worst in others.
 
pnewton said:
Don’t be ridiculous. No one is saying anything about being a bully except you. Here are a few problems that are getting sticky.

Child adoption by homosexuals
Child custody when one person is the real parent and the other the sex partner
The legal tension between the right of an employer to exercise free religion vs. homosexuals demanding equal treatment like a real family.

FYI - I am not obligated to answer every question I deem ridiculous, nor to answer anything by a dictated time frame. Please do not assume the worst in others.
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Child adoption by homosexuals is not “sticky”.
It’s not something the catholic church should be forced into doing as it goes against their beliefs. Simple, not sticky in the least. Nor is it relevant to the OP.

Child custody when one parent is the real parent and the other the sex partner- also not a part of the OP.

You got so far off base on the employer tangent, I don’t know what is next.

Can anyone deal with the OP?

If you think its ridiculous to stand by a statement you made, so be it. What is the can of worms? Did you realize how ridicuolus it was to say that? If so, good.
 
If my employer was a muslim, and his or her “religious tension” was over whether or not I did or did not do something that lined up with his religion but was LEGAL to do, I would say he or she should pray about getting rid of that tension before I sue him or her.
 
StrawberryJam said:
Maybe she is referring to this can of worms. The unbrideld bullying that christians will give them for doing it.

Here’s what they did to gay children in schools.

stonewall.org.uk/education_for_all/research/1790.asp

I’m predicting even worse things they radicals will do to the homosexual parents and sadly, even their innocent children.
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I agree, its even more sad that Gay males are the #1 victims to sexuality based violent crimes.
 
Jermosh said:
I agree, its even more sad that Gay males are the #1 victims to sexuality based violent crimes.
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If I were a believer, I’d be praying to God that one day this will change just like slavery did in the minds of believing radicals. Just like polygamy did.

The eye opener here, is that if you even look at how many states in the US have such unions or marriages and compare that to how many states in the US allow marriage with a first cousin, you see clearly that there is a real problem here.

Ever notice an outrage over first cousins getting married or having children?

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Priorities of bigorty I guess.

And, if anything catholics ought to be outraged about that, since I noted in the CCC its not allowed to marry a first cousin.

What does this say about catholics trying to make sure the “children” are safe?
 
StrawberryJam said:
If I were a believer, I’d be praying to God that one day this will change just like slavery did in the minds of believing radicals. Just like polygamy did.

The eye opener here, is that if you even look at how many states in the US have such unions or marriages and compare that to how many states in the US allow marriage with a first cousin, you see clearly that there is a real problem here.

Ever notice an outrage over first cousins getting married or having children?

🤷

Priorities of bigorty I guess.

And, if anything catholics ought to be outraged about that, since I noted in the CCC its not allowed to marry a first cousin.

What does this say about catholics trying to make sure the “children” are safe?
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So why are you not a believer?
 
Jermosh said:
So why are you not a believer?
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I am not sure why I am not. I have investigated the Gospel message through the eyes of the catholic church for what seems to be a long time, but if you note when I joined- it was not a long time at all. This has not been an easy thing, that could be why it feels as if it has been a very long time I have gone on this journey.

The bible has told us many things, but the one that particularly bothers me is that God claims we all Know Him through his creation.

This, is how I don’t “know” him.

Firstly.

I do try to follow what the bible says will lead me to Him.

Knocked, I have sought. I am being patient.

I have never wished that God was not, nor have I wished a God to be.

I have a priest I talk to about questions on matters of faith, and he is a very solid and orthodox priest.

I love going to Mass and I do attend Divine Liturgy as well.

I have your bibles, your CCC, several good catholic books, things that I cherish I won’t discuss yet,

And yet, I can’t believe yet. Some schools of thought would say I was born to be damned. Some say there is still time. Others say, at least you are still asking, looking, pondering.

I just wish I knew when the point is/should be/ ought to be

where you could just know if you really did seek enough.
 
When I was young and started to work in the restaurant business, I was a drink and food runner at a deli after school. The patron would come in, order his food, pay for and take a ticket, when it was done I would hurry it over to them and clean up after them. During my “training” the owner who had a thick Greek accent made me carry a full cup of coffee to a table by watching the cup, sure enough I spilt most of it in the saucer, he then had me walk it to a table by not looking at the cup, not a speck of brown in the saucer. Moral of the story is stop trying so hard, and stop listening to others, listen to yourself and only yourself, God is in there you will know the differance. There is a scripture that fits here, but I seem to have forgotten it.

I am a convert as well, I had a tremendously long and hard conversion, I was literally thinking about not going through with it when I was in my baptism line. But its been bliss since, I still weep at the smell of chrism, the sweet taste of love.
 
Let’s pray for SJ at every opportunity. She is a seeker. That’s always good.
🙂
 
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