Church Guidelines for Marital Separation

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RCWitness, I am truly sorry for your situation, however you need to take it up with real people in real time in the real world.

WE cannot expound on interpretation and definition of Canon Law when we have no training in it.

We are amateurs, not experts. Anything we say could seriously lead a person reading this astray.

Thats why it is against CAF rules. As is agenda posting.
 
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Then why do I receive so much debate here?

You act as though I’m the only one trying to understand Church Law.

I think we are suppose to adhere to Canon Law.

And I dont think it’s as complicated as Catholics make it out to be.

I’m raising awareness to this Canon guide. I didn’t discover it from the many real priests I’ve spoke with in real time.

St Rita is my advocate, and Jesus is my head. Thanks for your sentiments.
 
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You seem to be doing some serious seeking of authority. Most of us feel like we have enough people in our lives who have authority over the actions we choose to take. We need less, not more.

I am also sorry for your situation. I would like to suggest you consider working one-on-one with someone “in real life” who can help you with these struggles. I don’t think you are going to come to a place of peace as a result of posting these questions here. You have a very similar other thread that was open all day today and then was closed.
 
We are not allowed to discuss Canon law? If all of us amateurs should have no reason to ever look at Canon law, why does the Vatican publish it on their website?
 
What have I interpreted, how is it wrong, and how do you know?

I’m not asking about interpretation. I’m asking if this should be applied and respected in our separations.
 
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Btw, I didn’t read that article until after I posted this thread. I actually missed it in the last thread.

Sorry, but I’m really glad you re-posted it. Very interesting! Thx

Interesting that this group petitioned the Bishops nearly a decade ago, and nothing has changed.
 
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Who is your authority?

Jesus is my head. No one mandated that, I freely submit to Him.

And He appointed men over me (and those under my own headship). Yet they dont assume that authority. They shrink away. Its lack of conviction.

I will look into the Milwaukee diocese Marriage Tribunal. See what they have to offer.
 
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I have emailed the Milwaukee Diocese for a consultation to discuss my Marriage concerns.

At this point, this is what I see happening among Catholics:

The assumption is being made, by many outspoken Catholics, that Canon 1153.1 is referring to a right to file civil divorce. But the very next article does NOT support this.
Canon 1153.1 A spouse who occasions grave danger of soul or body to the other or to the children, or otherwise makes the common life unduly difficult, provides the other spouse with a reason to leave, either by a decree of the local Ordinary or, if there is danger in delay, even on his or her own authority.
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> Canon 1153.2 In all cases, when the reason for separation ceases, the common conjugal life is to be restored, unless otherwise provided by ecclesiastical authority.
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This shows that 1153.1 is a formal Church separation (and can even be initiated without ecclesiastical authority), yet with terms, and definitely not referring to civil divorce, which although can be justified, requires “ecclesiastical authority”.
 
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My concern is both for my own personal situation and many others in our Church. There is grave misunderstanding abounding!

I have told my wife to go file civil divorce if she feels justified in the Lord. What she must face, if she does that, is to tell me what priest has given her this permission or option.

This is spiritual warfare, and I cannot, in good conscience, neglect the Lord and His Church.

No, I do not care to rely on secular lawyers. Though I’m not burning that bridge either. Just that at this point, the Holy Spirit is strengthening me to rely on His Church to overcome all of these spirits.

This is my cross, and I accept it. It leads to peace. I am told by Jesus to give my life for my wife.
 
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If she is to receive Holy Eucharist in a state of grace, she must. We are Married in the Lord, which means she is bound to the Church laws, and priests are also.
 
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Nice of our Church leaders to watch that happen, huh?

No thanks. I will not rely on secular lawyers.

Its funny how I’m not asking for advice, yet criticized for doing so, then repeatedly given advice!
 
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Cecilia_Dympna said:
Also, I’ve been reading over your previous posts about your marriage. And I am entirely unconvinced that any priest would advise your wife to not divorce you. I think that you will have to take this on the chin.
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If priests ignore this canon, then they might. Which I would take it to the Bishop. In that case.

There is information that I’m not willing to expose over this forum.
 
Yep, that doesn’t apply. And no priest has related that to me or her.
 
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That is regarding separation. Civil divorce is a different step, which requires permission.
 
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If she is to receive Holy Eucharist in a state of grace, she must. We are Married in the Lord, which means she is bound to the Church laws, and priests are also.
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That is untrue too. If your wife is not in Mortal Sin, she is entitled to the Eucharist.
 
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