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They’re coming door to door! I know there are few folks in my neighborhood who have yard signs about it, so, no doubt, they’ll be coming by.

I’m a revert, and I’ve been doing a lot of studying, but I don’t think I’m fully prepared to debate with these folks when they show up. ( I have a close friend who is COC, and I know how tough, and unrelenting, they can be.) Can anyone give me some quick tips how to defend Catholicism? Or how to politely get them off of my porch? 🙂

Thanks!
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The first thing I tell these people is , "I am Roman Catholic and I am not interested in what you have to say! Then I step back as if to close the door. If they contenue, I point down the street and sy,“Down there 2 or 3 houses, I think they want to talk to you - I don’t!” And then just close the door.:tiphat: Goodbye!

I have had some contact with those C of C. They will start aout by asking you to show them in the Bible where it says there is a Pope. They get real snooty and actually some of them almost hate you. So don’t give them a chance. Shut your door. They have 4 to 5 pat questions for Catholics. If you truely refute them, the WILL NOT LISTEN…they are one minded…they dont think they are wrong.
SHUT YOUR DOOR,DONT WORRY ABOUT BEING POLITE , THEY ARE NOT POLITE! They just want to make you look stupid.
 
Exporter,

Thanks for the advice! My friend who is a COC doesn’t pull any punches, either. It is hard to sway them, so I’m not looking forward to the night they show up over here!!!

"Do what your supposed to do…when your supposed to do it. Bear Bryant"
Any friend of Coach Bryant’s is a friend of mine!!! 👍
 
I grew up Church of Christ and they are unrelenting,you can imagine I am the black sheep of the family becoming Catholic.First of all the majority of them have already made up their minds that you are going to hell.There is nothing you can say to change that they work on installing fear of any religion that is not Church of Christ.With a special hatred of the Catholic Church.I would suggest either just telling them you are not interested or find some apologetics that deal with their accusations and print them out and give it to them.They will either read it or throw it away,but unless you are a pro at defending the faith,do not get into a debate with them, remember the devil knows scripture and can use it as well as other methods to divide theBody of Christ.God Bless
 
Can’t be of much help on how to deal with them. Do have a COC bible in the house and was reading some of the footnotes several years ago. Their interpretations were amazingly “Catholic” on many, many issues. Then came the multi-page fine print scriptural proof that the pope is the Anti-Christ. Thus ended my initial good impression of COC teachings. The writer was almost (or, perhaps totally) rabid in his denunciation of the Catholic faith. Be careful and God bless!
 
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Can’t be of much help on how to deal with them. Do have a COC bible in the house and was reading some of the footnotes several years ago. Their interpretations were amazingly “Catholic” on many, many issues. Then came the multi-page fine print scriptural proof that the pope is the Anti-Christ. Thus ended my initial good impression of COC teachings. The writer was almost (or, perhaps totally) rabid in his denunciation of the Catholic faith. Be careful and God bless!
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They have their own Bible?
 
COC bible appears to be standard KJV. The explanatory footnotes make it “their” bible.
 
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COC bible appears to be standard KJV. The explanatory footnotes make it “their” bible.
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Ah. Thanks. I was wondering if it might be “special” as with the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
 
If you want a good laugh, “TRY” to nail them down on their history. I emphasize try because, they will do absolutely anything to avoid history.

They don’t have any history what so ever before 1906 to my knowledge. They either will tell you this total apostasy/restoration theory or only the here and now is important, either way though is equally wrong. So enjoy!
 
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If you want a good laugh, “TRY” to nail them down on their history. I emphasize try because, they will do absolutely anything to avoid history.

They don’t have any history what so ever before 1906 to my knowledge. They either will tell you this total apostasy/restoration theory or only the here and now is important, either way though is equally wrong. So enjoy!
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You are right they are a restoration movement like the Morman and Jehovah’s thus many potestants classify them as cultist.
THey are trinitarian so I don’t know if they are cult but they are definitely a sect with some cult leanings.
 
I wouldn’t call them a cult, just another splinter of a splinter of a splinter of many more splinters of a splinter from protestant reformation. They are definitly out there on some views of God, history, theology, and religion in general, but they are just simply another denomination. A person or group decided to do their own thing and make up a heck of a back story and are pretty convincing until you actually decide to study their theology, than ofcourse it comes to light and all it is, is shallow theology and a shallow religion.

I’m not trying to disrespect any Church of Christ people or anything, but I’ve heard them say God doesn’t love unconditionally, that no one is in heaven right now, to shun those who arent in the Church of Christ, that lethal force even to defend your life or the life of your loved ones is wrong. Plus many other doctrines and beliefs they have that are just out there, that hold no water, and no bases for belief.

So yeah have some shallow beliefs, and so much is built upon lies.

But they still have most basic Christian beliefs.
 
The issue of cult or not cult is not as black and white as we would like it to be.

One “branch” of the “cofC” the International (or Boston) churches of Christ is regarded as a cult by just about everyone including other “csoC”.

They are a strict cult and control every member’s personal life by a process they call “discipling”.

Other “main stream” scofC also practice shunning in order to control thier members (Control and shunning are two well known traits held by cults).

In another site where I also participate there is a woman who opened a thread called “Disfellowshipped by Church of Christ” who decribes how she was “disfellowshipped”, shunned by all the members of the “Churches of Christ” in her area, (they communicate with each other about “disfellowshipped” members, and cannot attend any “church of Christ” in her area. What was her terrible sin that resulted in her “disfellowshipment”? She was party in a divorce WITHOUT remarriage. Her husband the other party in the divorce who has “re-married” was not shunned and still continues to go to the same “cofC” with the same status as before. What is wrong with this picture?

In my own experience I have been and continue to be shunned by family members for the sin of “leaving Christ and his one true church” that is the “cofC.”

When a denomination considers itself to be not only the “true church”, but indeed the “only Christians” as the cofC does, that is a good indicator that they are a cult.
 
Yeah the shunning is a huge part that can’t be ignored. The marriage part about her being shunned is completely legit in “cofc” eyes, about a month or so ago I was let into more of their delusional thinking, and that was some of it. It basically came down to what I saw, whatever the case, the wife was wrong. And when you have done something “majorly” wrong in the cofc, you are shunned.

plus boppysbud was right about the international cofc being a cult, and I guess too that the rest of the cofc’s could be considered a cult.

Anyways, sorry for your loss boppysbud and the other women, but than again you might have already looked upon it with joy and gladness that you “get” the chance to suffer as Jesus did, by being shunned.

Peace and Joy!
 
Oh now folks. The CoC folks aren’t all that bad. My wife and her family are CoC. They can surely be hard headed and get upset when you defend the Catholic faith from scripture, but they aren’t anything that you need to avoid like the plague. I would suggest for those who know their faith and are good at apologetics to go ahead and talk to them if they come to your door.

At worst they won’t come back after a single session and at best they won’t come back after a month or so of sessions. They do not like prolonged exposure to Catholics who know their faith. Besides, you might plant a seed that will eventually save one of these poor lost souls. 🙂
 
So do they really say “disfellowshipped”??? Not only do they make up their own religion and claim it to be the right one, they make up their own rules, and their own words! “Disfellowshipped” ranks right up there in my mind with my other favorite Protestant word “unchurched”–used to suggest that someone has no religion but really just means the person is not whatever fundamentalist religion the speaker is. And “unchurched” often is used to refer to Catholics. Go figure. :ehh:
 
I like the history approch but if they won’t bite on that just ask them to pray with you before you discuss it any further. Then pull out your rosary , offer it up for them and begin to pray. They will either stay and pray with you(not likely but you never know) or they will go. At that point it is their choice and the wosrt thing they can say about you is that you wanted to pray for them.

Peace
 
It is very true that the Church of Christ does not meet the history test. Growing up, I was always told we were the church founded on the day of pentecost, and all other churches were instituted by men as they were founded after that date. The actual history of this church was never mentioned. Well, as a history student I begin to investigate the history of my church, and found that what I was being told did not mirror the historical record. I even read books on the Church of Christ, such as “Why I am a Member of the Church of Christ.” These books like to espouse the seed theory. They saw the Church and its teachings as a seed. And this seed could be planted at any time, and it would be grow into the original church- recreating the Church as it was before. The problem I saw with this is yes- plant an actual seed and it will grow and produce accoring to it genes, but the Church is not simply a seed that can be recreated from following the new testament. Simply doing so does not guarentee it. One needs to go to the source- the church in perpetual existance since Jesus founded it- the Catholic Church!
And yes, shunning does happen. Since I left the Church of Christ, when I meet other members they act as if they do not even know me.
 
A good friend is CoC, and she just dropped by this morning to borrow a book (Surprised by Truth!!! Yey, maybe she’ll learn a little something.) Anyway, she was telling me all about this campaign, and invited me to a gospel meeting. She said the campaign is to teach people about the CoC, using the Bible. She used that phrase “using the Bible” quite a bit in the conversation.

I am a revert who is attending RCIA, and reading constantly about the Catholic faith. I’m about to start a personal Bible study, too. I’m certain that I am not knowledgable enough to defend the faith at this point. Should be interesting if they stop at my door.
 
I am deeply grieved that so many people have had such bad experiences with the church of Christ. I was born and raised in the church and am still there today.

We are not a cult. We are merely Christians. We are not the “only Christians.” We believe that you must believe the Gospel, repent of your sins, confess that Jesus is Lord, and be baptised to become a Christian. When you become a Christian, you become part of Christ’s church (hence the term). There are many Christians who belong to many different denominations. We want ALL Christians to come together. Jesus prayed for unity, so do we.

We do not have our own Bible. We do not think the pope is the antichrist. We do not hate Catholics. I actually do enjoy “prolonged exposure” to Catholics who know their faith. That is why I joined this forum! We do believe that God loves unconditionally, as evidenced in the story of the prodigal son. I have never heard of someone being “disfellowshipped,” but there is a biblical precedent for expelling an immoral person from the church in 1 Corinthians 5. I cannot speak to specific instances, because each church is governed by a board of elders and I do not know the facts. It is shameful that anyone would be “shunned.” This is not a Christian attitude, and does not represent the church. We certainly do not want to make anyone look stupid.

The history of the church is the history of Christianity. The church of Christ has existed since the day of pentecost. We want to return to the foundation that Jesus laid.

I pray we can come together in Christ’s love. God bless you all!
 
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