Church of England moves toward approval of same sex "marriage"

[BartholomewB]

Not only is it not official, it is counter to the expressed view of the CofE. Those who suggest that such things can change are quite right, of course, but the CofE’s official position is that marriage is permissible only between a man and a woman.

Will it take a lot of jiggery-pokery to turn “the expressed view of the CofE” upside down?

 

[GKMotley]

From the past record of late, no.

 

[PickyPicky]

Will it take a lot of jiggery-pokery to turn “the expressed view of the CofE” upside down?

The truth is that the Church of England, like the rest of society, has come in my lifetime to a less condemnatory understanding of the plight (as it has long been) of homosexuals. The state has dealt with this by firstly removing the legal penalty for homosexual behaviour, and then moving to allowing civil same-sex marriage. The CofE, and I think Cantuar specially, have had their long-held prejudices challenged, particularly in an outreach conducted to understand the issues better.

What’s happening is the CofE is, no doubt prayerfully, pondering how it should treat homosexuals and address homosexuality. Sounds proper to me. And, of course, another potential explosion in the CofE and the Communion.

 

[GKMotley]

No, I like them all.

You have given away my plans to rule the world, though.

 

[GKMotley]

I would say principles, not prejudices. A prejudice is a principle, seen over open sights.

 

[BartholomewB]

From what I’ve been reading on the Archbishop Cranmer blog, Stephen Cottrell’s appointment as Archbishop of York, a few months ago, is evidently seen as a sign that the C of E is determined to follow in the footsteps of the ECUSA.

 

[PickyPicky]

Archbishop Cranmer is essential reading, but …

Well, we shall see. I’m no expert, not even a Christian, so take my words, as well as His Grace’s, with the appropriate pinch of salt.

 

[PickyPicky]

I would say principles, not prejudices

I certainly don’t want to imply principles are not involved. Clearly there is a principle that marriage is between “this man and this woman”. There is also a principle that homosexual activity is inherently wrong. I think what Welby encountered (and what do I know?) was a prejudice within himself against homosexuals as people. I think many people, me included, have encountered that within themselves.

 

[GKMotley]

Could be. But, indeed…what do we know of the interior other?

 

[PickyPicky]

But, indeed…what do we know of the interior other?

Indeed. Not a vast amount. My interior is certainly other, but then that’s a matter for the medicos.

 

[Julius_Caesar]

Africa won’t stand for it.

 

[Angannas]

When the legislation to allow Same Sex Marriage in England and Wales there was a provision that the Church of England was not allowed to perform them, so any change by the CofE would need parliament to amend the law

 

[goout]

The standard bio of Horny Hank is Scarisbrick’s HENRY VIII. He (and all scholars on the topic for a hundred years or so) do not prefer syphilis as Henry’s maladie de choix. Scarisbrick backs either varicose veins, or osteomyelitis.

Medical science is awesome. My hip hurts, I have 3 back conditions, I suffer from occasional depression and anxiety,
and they are keeping the sharp tools away from me lest I go about beheading my closest people.

 

[GKMotley]

Don’t remind me.

 

[GKMotley]

Particularly advisable, if you are a 16th century absolute monarch, and can make a plausible case that your better half is, in fact, doing the dirty with various other folk.

 

[c4csp]

There is only one true church.

 

[GKMotley]

So I’ve heard.

 

[commenter]

There is only one true church.

This is far more obvious now than in the time of C. S. Lewis.

 

[commenter]

GKMotley:

I would say principles, not prejudices

I certainly don’t want to imply principles are not involved. Clearly there is a principle that marriage is between “this man and this woman”. There is also a principle that homosexual activity is inherently wrong. I think what Welby encountered (and what do I know?) was a prejudice within himself against homosexuals as people. I think many people, me included, have encountered that within themselves.

As time goes on those who have “principles” against homosexual behavior and redefined “marriage” are accused of having “prejudices.” Later they are accused of being prejudices.

This one issue along with abortion, will outweigh everything else.

 

[GKMotley]

I been collecting Lewis (inter alia) for about 55 years.