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YourNameHere
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It’s called faith.
Anything is possible with God!
Hallelujah!
Anything is possible with God!
Hallelujah!
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edwest211
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Have hope. Pray. Jesus promised He would guard His Church.
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Fauken
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And He already decided. Only men can be priests.
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edwest211
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Please stop agitating.
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Fauken
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We’ve already discussed this. God can’t make Himself not God. God can’t make a square circle because that violates what a square and circle are. Making women priests violates what the priesthood is. And why should women have to everything anyway? Women have to be the virgins, the nuns, the mothers, and now the priests?
I guess we should fear for God’s promise that the Church would prevail against the gates of Hell, since God can change His mind. He can just remove the keys and Sacraments from us, since according to you, He can just change His mind. The consistency of His promises and truth are non-existent. Why bother to be Catholic since all can change just like that?
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Actually, He can’t. One of God’s defining attributes is that He is unchanging. In order for God to actually change His mind, there must be an introduction of some new information which overwrites His understanding and causes it to be in error. This would mean that God lacked something, which would mean He is no longer God.
Language of God changing His mind in the OT is an effort to understand what we observe in terms that we understand. We can’t comprehend the eternal NOW in which all existence is equally present and in which God’s plan is eternally unfolding.
Either way, the Church has already made a definitive declaration about this. It is a matter of settled Dogma. It cannot be changed without the Church ceasing to be the Church.
Language of God changing His mind in the OT is an effort to understand what we observe in terms that we understand. We can’t comprehend the eternal NOW in which all existence is equally present and in which God’s plan is eternally unfolding.
Either way, the Church has already made a definitive declaration about this. It is a matter of settled Dogma. It cannot be changed without the Church ceasing to be the Church.
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phil19034
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God cannot change His mind.
Thinking that He can is actually a heresy.
Reason: God is perfect and all knowing. He doesn’t make decisions that must be reversed later.
If God wanted to allow women to be Priests, He would have done so before The Crucifixion.
Instead, Scripture is SPECIFIC that Jesus is a priest in the order of Melchizedek
The Order of Melchizedek REQUIRED the priests to be men.
The Bible doesn’t day Jesus created a new order. Instead, (again) it specifically says He’s a priest in the Order of Melchizedek.
Hebrews 7
So as far as the Catholic Church and Orthodox Churches are concerned, no Bishop (even the Pope) or Council has the authority to change this because it is embedded in Scripture and has been as considered Dogma for OVER 2000 years (due to the Jewish understanding of the priestly Order of Melchizedek).
This is not like female head coverings, which were considered a discipline (even though in the discipline is mentioned in St Paul’s letters.
God Bless
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I’d chalk it up to dialect. Most Americans pronounce it Aay-men,so that’s what we hear more often than not. It’s kind of like the subtle difference between color or colour; or the less subtle difference between the British and American pronunciations of aluminium. They’re both technically correct, there’s just one you’re more accustomed to based on where you live.
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too bad. The poll also showed a majority were against repealing Roe v Wade.
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JimG
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I always thought that Ah-men was Latin, and Aay-men was English.
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edwest211
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No surprise there. The repeal will happen. The fog of war has created a lack of clarity. There is a baby there, not a blob of tissue. Reality will prevail.
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AlNg
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The Bible says that God changed His mind:
“Perhaps they will listen and each one will turn back from his evil way, and I will change my mind concerning the calamity that I intend to bring on them because of their evil deeds.”—[Jeremiah 26:3]
“So the Lord changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people,” Exodus 32: 14.
10 When God saw what they did how they turned from their evil way, God changed His mind of the disaster that he had said he would do to them, and he did not do it. Jonah 3:10
6 And the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. Genesis 6: 6.
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phil19034
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@AlNgYourNameHere:
The Bible says that God changed His mind:
“Perhaps they will listen and each one will turn back from his evil way, and I will change my mind concerning the calamity that I intend to bring on them because of their evil deeds.”—[Jeremiah 26:3]
“So the Lord changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people,” Exodus 32: 14.
10 When God saw what they did how they turned from their evil way, God changed His mind of the disaster that he had said he would do to them, and he did not do it. Jonah 3:10
6 And the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. Genesis 6: 6.
I’m sorry, but you literally just ignored everything else in that same post by @prodglarchitect which explained what the Bible means in the Old Testament when God “changes His mind.”
God Bless
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And a lot of thinkers of Enlightment were theoricized the secularism and religion as retrograde. Even if Jean-Jacques Rousseau had converted himself to Catholicism and was spiritual.
You are right, the French Revolution was a time of martyrdoom for the Catholic Church and people.
I am not a specialist of this period which is almost not treated in french universities.
in the XIXth century, there was a lot of political changes in regimes, and some are more favorable to the Church than some, but the Church regain a lot of power thanks to his charity work (medical, school) and in colonies. A lot of churches were built.
the separation of the Churches and State in 1905 and all the mess was probably another turning poin to understand the French coldness toward religion. It had become very private, even in Catholic schools.
You are right, the French Revolution was a time of martyrdoom for the Catholic Church and people.
I am not a specialist of this period which is almost not treated in french universities.
in the XIXth century, there was a lot of political changes in regimes, and some are more favorable to the Church than some, but the Church regain a lot of power thanks to his charity work (medical, school) and in colonies. A lot of churches were built.
the separation of the Churches and State in 1905 and all the mess was probably another turning poin to understand the French coldness toward religion. It had become very private, even in Catholic schools.
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yankeesouth
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Lol ‘poll’…otherwise known as projecting one’s own agenda. Ask the liberals how the polls on election night 2016 went.
our history professors were very clear that we will almost not treated the French Revolution, and it not normal. but it not a plot from their part, but because of practical facts.
The French Revolution is at the junction to the Modern and Contemporary periodS, so it belongs completly to no one, so nobody topic…
It is not a delibarated censure…
to conclude, almost all I have learnt in school were in high school.
The French Revolution is at the junction to the Modern and Contemporary periodS, so it belongs completly to no one, so nobody topic…
It is not a delibarated censure…
to conclude, almost all I have learnt in school were in high school.
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AlNg
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Should I believe God when He says " I will change my mind <Jeremiah 26: 3> or should I believe you or some other anonymous individual on the internet instead?
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AlNg
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Hillary won the popular vote as indicated by the polls.
LOL? It’s more than one poll showing Roman Catholics favoring women’s ordination. I suppose you could ignore them and lol.
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Sbee0
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Not in any way relevant to the wishful thinking that the Catholic Church will be ordaining women as priests. That will not happen. Ever.YourNameHere:
The Bible says that God changed His mind:
“Perhaps they will listen and each one will turn back from his evil way, and I will change my mind concerning the calamity that I intend to bring on them because of their evil deeds.”—[Jeremiah 26:3]
“So the Lord changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people,” Exodus 32: 14.
10 When God saw what they did how they turned from their evil way, God changed His mind of the disaster that he had said he would do to them, and he did not do it. Jonah 3:10
6 And the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. Genesis 6: 6.
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