Church v. Trump on Women

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Again, I’ll take how he explained it himself, what I heard with my own ears and saw with my own eyes, over a “Bob Woodward book”. BTW, did Bob make any money at all off that book?
 
You can do what you want.

I would check even if Donald Trump told me the sky was blue or that a shark was a type of fish. He is pathologically dishonest. The scary part is I am not sure when he knows he isn’t telling the truth.
 
I did. In the first post. All of these quotes are well-referenced in interviews and Tweets that he himself delivered.

Think critically. Look again at the link in my OP, and ask yourself how well these CITED quotes conform to Church teaching.

If I feel insulted when a man makes fun of my breasts because he doesn’t think they’re big enough, does that make me a “radical liberal woman?”

If I expect men to man up and be active fathers in their children’s lives, does that also make me a “radical liberal woman?”

How would you feel if the Deacon at your parish openly bragged about how “hot” his daughter’s body was and confessed that he’d be dating her if they weren’t related?

Is there a KoC member at your parish who brags about his wife’s “nice piece of *#%@?”

Would Pope John Paul II have mocked a woman for having a small bra size?

Catholics who reluctantly and begrudgingly voted for Trump, especially with the hope that he’s be less of an abortion radical than HRC, have all of my sympathy. Catholics who cheerlead the man baffle me.
 
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This.

Exactly the reason that some people chose to vote for non-Republican candidates, because a vote does not mean we have to agree with all of a candidate’s stances or actions to “overtly support” them.
 
We only had two serious choices in the general election. I knew my vote for him was a risk, but voting for Clinton would have had much worse consequences. I doubt anyone on this board would support some of the things he may have done, but I also couldn’t support much of anything Clinton supported. I guess I’m deplorable. We get to vote for whomever we believe will be best for the country.
 
You sound like a reluctant Trump voter, not one of his enthusiastic apologists. I can somewhat see where you’re coming from.
 
I don’t know if this is going to come out the way I mean it, but I’m going to try. A lot of things Donald Trump says are gross. The thing that gets me is that (and again, I don’t address this specifically to you as the OP) it’s kind of naive to think that he is the only one. He just may be the only one who is audacious or ignorant enough to say these things publically. All his predecessors were politiicans; they cared about the optics and kept it behind closed doors and away from hot mics. The only two recent presidents I think who maybe weren’t like this were Jimmy Carter and George HW Bush. We know LBJ was crude. We know W had a past. We know Bill Clinton’s issues. I don’t know. It is certainly troubling, but is better that we know what’s he’s like or would it be better if like it was in the past the press knew things and kept them quiet? I’m just thinking out loud (so to speak).
 
Where do you get your ideas on Trump’s supposed view on women? Seems to me he surrounds himself with many successful women who don’t mind him at all. There were two choices in the past election and one was more in line with what the Catholic Church is all about than the other; that person could have in no way been Hillary Clinton. Trump seems to even be wanting to put more good Catholics on the Supreme Court! How do you reconcile the absolute ruination of America that would occurred under an internationalist Hillary Clinton presidency when looking at how Trump is actually trying to do something good for America? Quit parroting the mainstream bought and paid for dinosaur corporate media and open your eyes.
 
I was, but will definitely vote for him in 2020 unless somebody we haven’t heard of yet shows up and is better.
 
Right… and I guess Trump doesn’t have 5 kids to Hillary’s 1.
 
blackforest said:
Think critically. Look again at the link in my OP, and ask yourself how well these CITED quotes conform to Church teaching.
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Haven’t had the time to go back and look at all your quotes, but I can say this: Why on earth would Donald Trump, a non-Catholic, be held to conform to Church teaching? I haven’t seen any Democrats conforming to Church teaching, nor have I seen any “Catholic” Democrats coming even close to being faithful to their own Church teachings.
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If I feel insulted when a man makes fun of my breasts because he doesn’t think they’re big enough, does that make me a “radical liberal woman?”
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Donald Trump doesn’t think your breasts are big enough? LOL, that would just make me laugh, like, who cares? You’re making much too much out of something so absolutely insignificant to life, as this is.
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How would you feel if the Deacon at your parish openly bragged about how “hot” his daughter’s body was and confessed that he’d be dating her if they weren’t related?
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I would be horrified if anyone at my parish openly bragged about how “hot” anyone’s body was. But Donald Trump isn’t a part of my church, and I seriously doubt he would say something like that (which he said one time as a joke) in anyone’s church. You’re making up things that just aren’t significant, in order to… what?
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Would Pope John Paul II have mocked a woman for having a small bra size?
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Oh come on now, you’re really being silly… Donald Trump isn’t a Pope, for one thing, and secondly, I’m a very conservative woman and what you’re talking about just isn’t at all interesting or important. Who cares? I have been more than offended, however, by the outrageous garbage that liberals have been saying about conservatives, like calling Ivanka Trump the “C” word, and other filthy remarks, and good old Maxine inciting violence on Conservatives every other day, without a consequence in the world, and you’re outraged over a bra size?
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Catholics who cheerlead the man baffle me.
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You are seriously baffling me right now.
 
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Do we really need another trump bashing thread? Can’t time be spent discussing more pressing things?
 
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Think about this for a second. If Trump were elected pope and Francis elected POTUS, would the headlines be all that much different? People in positions of (almost) absolute power, are going to be criticized and vilified by their enemies. It is just that both these men are hated by the left wing liberal U.S. media. The ‘haters’ will take whatever they can, and spin it until Machiavelli seems to be the one in power.
 
The people weren’t voting for Mr. Trump to be a pastor, but a President.

Is Mr. Trump “sincere” about his pro-life convictions?

Maybe not, maybe it was political expediency. But his policies since taking the oath of office have been solidly Pro-Life. Would you rather have someone who says they are solemnly pro-life, but are also solidly in favor of Taxpayer Paid Abortion on Demand?
 
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Trump seems to even be wanting to put more good Catholics on the Supreme Court!
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I think President Trump might have a silent desire to be a Catholic. His wife is Catholic, probably not active, but her thinking is Catholic and she does pray the Rosary. Maybe he see’s how she treats people, which is always very kind and respectful, and it’s starting to wear off on him?
 
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But his policies since taking the oath of office have been solidly Pro-Life.
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Which policies would those be?

The policies I am aware of, well, Mexico City policy springs to mind. It is not solidly pro-life, it has many loopholes to the point where it is merely lip-service.

SCOTUS choice Garosuch stated clearly that RvW is established law and that he would have walked out of the room had President Trump asked him to reverse RvW.

Are there other policies of which I am not aware?
 
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