does it mean when a school girl becomes unmarried mom or goes to abortion clinic , police arrest her & her boyfriend ?
If her boyfriend is a 50 year old man, yes, they most certainly do arrest him. She will not be arrested because it is recognized that a person under the legal age of consent is not responsible for her actions in cases like this, since pedophiles manipulate their victims so that they can get what they want. She is the VICTIM of his criminality. She will most likely receive counseling or some other sort of victim’s support.
dhzeremi answered the question about the law of our land. So, what do muslims do - stone her to death and flog the boyfriend?
Is not it better if women marry first & then have babies ?
Normally in any Muslim majority country , it’s considered as a major sin . Most Muslim parents still are conservative & normally they don’t allow daugthers to have close boyfriends & go to late night parties etc. So , it’s not a big problem for us —yet.
We can’t accept pedophilic “marriages” (abhorrations to marriage) between old men and little girls, that much is true. Why you think we accept sexual relationships outside of marriage, I don’t know. We most definitely do not. Accepting the reality of the world in which these things happen is not the same as condoning the acts themselves. Pre-marital and extra-marital sex are still sins, and they always will be. Don’t for a second think we believe otherwise.
See above. Nobody SUPPORTS these deeds. We accept them as a reality of life, but they are not excused by any stretch of the imagination. Some individuals who call themselves “Christian” may justify it for themselves, but unfortunately for them and their souls this does NOT justify their acts before God. Nothing will do that.
Is the point of your posts just to repeat the same misunderstandings of Christianity over and over? I repeat: Christianity does NOT condone adultery in any way. Period. It is a sin! A very, very serious sin!
Indeed!
Yikes. Every part of this paragraph is horrifying. Abortion is wrong, but does killing TWO people somehow make up for the killing of ONE person?
Hmm…I’m pretty sure all healthy marriages begin with lashings and are forced by local religious authorities. I can’t see how that could ever backfire. No. Not at all.
Bible says God’s son David (p) married a young virgin when he was at death bed. God did not scold him & did not say it’s a pedophilic marriage.
but Christians don’t want to punish the sinners. Thus they encourage sinners to repeat the sins & spread the sins in the society.
stone to death is not prescribed for abortion but for the married person who committed the sin ( regarding hadith). For unmarried persons , punishment is lashing .
Okay. Fair enough. Let us then look at Abishag, the wife in question. Here is what is written of her marriage to David, in 1 Kings:1-4
I am not going to dignify this with a counter-argument. It is enough that you are showing yourself to be unwilling to understand the simple corrections that I and others have offered to you. You are not interested in the truth of Christian beliefs, so you have no one to blame but yourself for your errors. When you talk about Christians doing this or that, no one will take you seriously, because you don’t know what you are talking about. This is worse for you and the religion you are a representative of than anything I or anyone else could say.
So what? You said that the Imams will prescribe stoning themselves sometimes anyway, so I’m not sure what the Quranically prescribed punishment has to do with anything if they are not obligated to follow it. Besides, lashing is bad enough.
Do you think this is exclusively a Christian problem? I wish you would open your eyes and see this is actually a universal problem. Pre-marital sex is definitely not condoned in Christianity. There are Muslims, despite having taught their religion, are still rebellious enough to have pre-marital relationships and frequently engage in sexual relationships as well. Even the Mufti of Singapore has strongly condemned Muslim youths of having strayed from their beliefs. Priests of our Church also do the same for the Christian youths.
Yeah, i see what you mean. This is also a clear example of Taqiyya in Islam. They will do and say anything to fend off questions and difficult situations. Hey, if Mohammad did it, who can stop them?
Have you heard about the God who love the SINNERS, but hate their Sins. Dzheremi is right it will be hard to make you understand this things if you are a staunch advocate of a controlled society that allows death penalty to redeem “Honor” for self sake.
Just the same still an act of heartless, cruel and uncivilized method of correcting people for committing sin.That’s why your society is uncultured (sorry this is the only word that can describe such act) in its traditions for your laws permit such inhumane treatment of the disgraced children of God
what lie ?
I told u earlier I am not a Pak citizen. I gave some info about Hindu’s arranging marriage of their daughgers before puberty. Few famous Indian Hindu writers such as Sharotchandro , Bhivuti mentioned those in their books. U may ask any Indian who read their books . Why should i lie about Hindus ?
Islam did not introduce polygamy or young marriage. It was common since the time of the Biblical Prophets (p) > Jesus (p) never scolded any of those Prophets (pbut).
regarding hadith , a woman came to Prophet Muhammed (p) & asked him to punish her as she committed that major sin. Prophet ( p) came to know that she is pregnant . He asked her to return after the baby is born. Later the woman came back & Prophet (p) told her to continue breastfeeding the baby .
don’t know any unmarried couple with kids. Normally no one announced that s/he has any kids outside marariage. Sometimes news come in paper that abandon babies found or body of a newborn was found etc etc. Looks like those sinners either killed babies or just left them in the streets. Some may lie that they are married. Sometimes news are like this women filed case for DNA test . Don’t know the follow up stories.
Your diversion tactics and lies about Hindus.
Its not accepted in the Christian world either. And by Christian world, i do not mean nations.
A love child is still a child loved by God. Even if Muslims or Christians fornicated and created life in the unmarried womb. Its not something that is condoned by society nor religion. But it is tolerated in non-Muslim countries, whereas its the death penalty by stoning in Muslim countries for the unmarried woman.
I hope you know that using the word “Pak” is a derogatory, discriminative word in most countries.
I think you are referring to engagements, which can be broken off later after they have reached of legal age. They are not legally married, but ceremonially engaged. Even so, this practice is now outlawed in India.
Polygamy was tolerated during Biblical times but this practice is no longer applicable in modern times. Do you see Jewish men marrying multiple wives?
Yes, the Prophet is all knowing and merciful that he possibly could not foresee babies need a mother’s nurturing even after completing the dependency of the mother’s milk. Of course, he cannot be blamed for Allah is merciful - only to him.
Of course you wouldn’t. Because it would force you to rethink your faith in a religion that does not tolerate sinners.