Clinton Campaign Never Bought ‘Carbon Offsets’ To Atone For Hillary’s Private Jet Rides

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this is part of the farce that the paris executive order is. carbon offsets??? you expect me to believe the world is in dire straits and yet you can fly a private plane if you plant some trees somewhere.

did anyone really expect hillary to keep her word about this? especially since she made the pledge because she got caught flying a private jet after giving a global warming speech? typical liberal left hypocrite. what difference does it make now?
 
Oh for goodness’ sake. It’s been seven months. Take the effigy down already. You’re going to give yourself an ulcer.

1 John 3:15
Ephesians 4:31
 
this is part of the farce that the paris executive order is. carbon offsets??? you expect me to believe the world is in dire straits and yet you can fly a private plane if you plant some trees somewhere.

did anyone really expect hillary to keep her word about this? especially since she made the pledge because she got caught flying a private jet after giving a global warming speech? typical liberal left hypocrite. what difference does it make now?
Hillary broke a campaign promise about carbon offsets?! :tsktsk::tsktsk::tsktsk:

Now if this had been a republican who had made this promise and broke it,
the left would be having a hissy fit!
 
Better appoint Special Counsel to investigate this latest election scandal! The Russians made her do it!!! :bigyikes:
 
Hillary broke a campaign promise about carbon offsets?! :tsktsk::tsktsk::tsktsk:

Now if this had been a republican who had made this promise and broke it,
the left would be having a hissy fit!
I think no matter who does it, the other side will have a hissy fit. There is nothing better than catching your opponent in an act of hypocrisy.
 
However, I do see more of it on the left. The double standard.
I recommend Republican governor John Kasich’s recent book, Two Paths- America Divided or United.
The us against them program isn’t working for The United States of America, United being the key word to resolve important issues based on analysis and compromise.
 
I recommend Republican governor John Kasich’s recent book, Two Paths- America Divided or United.
The us against them program isn’t working for The United States of America, United being the key word to resolve important issues based on analysis and compromise.
Try telling that to the democrats.
 
I think you missed my point.
I am a lifelong democrat. Over the years,my family has served in the military, volunteered, served with the Church, just like many republican families. It’s so futile to play tug of war and very much harder to work at understanding another point of view and supporting our bipartisan government representatives. I firmly believe that God has a perfect plan for all of us, and no political party has all of the answers or moral authority. Jesus was not a democrat or a republican.
 
I think you missed my point.
I am a lifelong democrat. Over the years,my family has served in the military, volunteered, served with the Church, just like many republican families. It’s so futile to play tug of war and very much harder to work at understanding another point of view and supporting our bipartisan government representatives. I firmly believe that God has a perfect plan for all of us, and no political party has all of the answers or moral authority. Jesus was not a democrat or a republican.
True.However as it stands currently,the Dem party is not a friend of the human nascent life.😦
Pretty sure Jesus weeps over this.
 
Pretty sure the Catechism speaks about sexual assault, undeclared and unending wars overseas, opposed to the illegal and immoral use of torture, violations against the poor, unborn, elderly, immigrants, racial discrimination, inciting violence, and many other serious concerns about the “winner” of the 2016 presidential election.

In “Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship,” the U.S. bishops explicitly say:
  1. “As Catholics we are not single-issue voters.” (#42)
  2. A voter “should take into account a candidate’s commitments, character, integrity, and ability to influence a given issue. In the end, this is a decision to be made by each Catholic guided by a conscience formed by Catholic moral teaching.” (#37)
  3. “A Catholic who rejects a candidate’s unacceptable position [on abortion] may decide to vote for that candidate for other morally grave reasons.” (#35)
Catholic Democrats, even those who are pro-life, believe that there are morally grave reasons to vote for a pro-choice Democrat over a Republican who is for criminalizing abortion and victimizing the poor and elderly.

I voted my conscience.
 
What would Jesus say?
There were many other republican presidential candidates who are upstanding citizens. This article about Christians who voted for Trump says it all for me. Jesus wept: How can you call yourself a Christian if you voted for Donald Trump?
salon.com/2016/11/19/jesus-wept-how-can-you-call-yourself-a-christian-if-you-voted-for-donald-trump/

My mother was a young girl in France when the Nazis took over. Many people did nothing to fight against them. But many people joined the resistance, my grandfather one of them.

Catholics amoung many others in the US are resisting Trump because he does not represent the Christian ideal.
 
It’s not very christian to slander people by comparing them to Hitler
If you stuck to the facts, you would have nothing to stand upon in your agrument.
What would Jesus say?
There were many other republican presidential candidates who are upstanding citizens. This article about Christians who voted for Trump says it all for me. Jesus wept: How can you call yourself a Christian if you voted for Donald Trump?
salon.com/2016/11/19/jesus-wept-how-can-you-call-yourself-a-christian-if-you-voted-for-donald-trump/

My mother was a young girl in France when the Nazis took over. Many people did nothing to fight against them. But many people joined the resistance, my grandfather one of them.

Catholics amoung many others in the US are resisting Trump because he does not represent the Christian ideal.
 
What would Jesus say?
There were many other republican presidential candidates who are upstanding citizens. This article about Christians who voted for Trump says it all for me. Jesus wept: How can you call yourself a Christian if you voted for Donald Trump?
salon.com/2016/11/19/jesus-wept-how-can-you-call-yourself-a-christian-if-you-voted-for-donald-trump/

My mother was a young girl in France when the Nazis took over. Many people did nothing to fight against them. But many people joined the resistance, my grandfather one of them.

Catholics amoung many others in the US are resisting Trump because he does not represent the Christian ideal.
Who was you choice for president? Who got your vote?
 
Joyful Song:
Pretty sure the Catechism speaks about sexual assault, undeclared and unending wars overseas, opposed to the illegal and immoral use of torture, violations against the poor, unborn, elderly, immigrants, racial discrimination, inciting violence, and many other serious concerns about the “winner” of the 2016 presidential election.
In “Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship,” the U.S. bishops explicitly say:
  1. “As Catholics we are not single-issue voters.” (#42)
  2. A voter “should take into account a candidate’s commitments, character, integrity, and ability to influence a given issue. In the end, this is a decision to be made by each Catholic guided by a conscience formed by Catholic moral teaching.” (#37)
  3. “A Catholic who rejects a candidate’s unacceptable position [on abortion] may decide to vote for that candidate for other morally grave reasons.” (#35)
Just because abortion isn’t the ONLY issue, does not mean abortion isn’t the FOUNDATIONAL issue for a voter to assess.

The Bishops are speaking about parsing candidates that hold equivalent abortion positions I believe.

THEN you can assess candidates other views and take those other issues into consideration.

But if you are a dead aborted child, what difference does “wars” make?

How are “violations against the poor” going to affect you if you were killed because you were aborted?

How does “immigrants, racial discrimination, inciting violence, and many other serious concerns” affect a baby that has been murdered by abortion?


These other concerns (“unending wars”, . . . “racial discrimination”, “inciting violence”) are real campaign issues. They are real campaign issues issues you weigh if BOTH candidates are equivalent on the abortion issue in my opinion.

And assuming both candidates have identical positions on abortion, THAT is when you can start taking other issues into account and even cast a vote for that pro-abort candidate (although I’d like to think at that point I would just abstain from voting for either one).

This is WHY abortion although not the “only” issue,** is the “foundational issue”**.
  • Abortion is the the foundational issue because personhood and life foundationally begins at conception
God bless.

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From Saint Pope John Paul II the Great in Evangelium Vitae . . . . .

. . . . The Church knows that this Gospel of life, which she has received from her Lord, 1 has a profound and persuasive echo in the heart of every person-believer and non-believer alike-because it marvellously fulfils all the heart’s expectations while infinitely surpassing them. Even in the midst of difficulties and uncertainties, every person sincerely open to truth and goodness can, by the light of reason and the hidden action of grace, come to recognize in the natural law written in the heart (cf. Rom 2:14-15) the sacred value of human life from its very beginning until its end, and can affirm the right of every human being to have this primary good respected to the highest degree. Upon the recognition of this right, every human community and the political community itself are founded.
In a special way, believers in Christ must defend and promote this right, aware as they are of the wonderful truth recalled by the Second Vatican Council: “By his incarnation the Son of God has united himself in some fashion with every human being”.2 This saving event reveals to humanity not only the boundless love of God who “so loved the world that he gave his only Son” (Jn 3:16), but also the incomparable value of every human person. . . . .

. . . . . the democratic ideal, which is only truly such when it acknowledges and safeguards the dignity of every human person, is betrayed in its very foundations: “How is it still possible to speak of the dignity of every human person when the killing of the weakest and most innocent is permitted? In the name of what justice is the most unjust of discriminations practised: some individuals are held to be deserving of defence and others are denied that dignity?” 16 When this happens, the process leading to the breakdown of a genuinely human co-existence and the disintegration of the State itself has already begun.
To claim the right to abortion, infanticide and euthanasia, and to recognize that right in law, means to attribute to human freedom a perverse and evil significance: that of an absolute power over others and against others. This is the death of true freedom . . . .

. . . . 58. Among all the crimes which can be committed against life, procured abortion has characteristics making it particularly serious and deplorable. The Second Vatican Council defines abortion, together with infanticide, as an “unspeakable crime”.54
But today, in many people’s consciences, the perception of its gravity has become progressively obscured. The acceptance of abortion in the popular mind, in behaviour and even in law itself, is a telling sign of an extremely dangerous crisis of the moral sense . . . .

. . . . The moral gravity of procured abortion is apparent in all its truth if we recognize that we are dealing with murder and, in particular, when we consider the specific elements involved. The one eliminated is a human being at the very beginning of life. No one more absolutely innocent could be imagined. In no way could this human being ever be considered an aggressor, much less an unjust aggressor! He or she is weak, defenceless, even to the point of lacking that minimal form of defence consisting in the poignant power of a newborn baby’s cries and tears. The unborn child is totally entrusted to the protection and care of the woman carrying him or her in the womb.
 
It is not what i say, its what the examination of conscience says.
 
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