Comedian Michelle Wolf sparks fury, debate with roast at correspondents' dinner

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It requires peculiarly selective reading to see only efforts efforts “to demonize Trump the person rather than discuss policy”. That observation cannot withstand serious analysis.
Do it then. We’ll read it.
 
Do it then. We’ll read it.
I defer to the poster who made the claim; it is their responsibility to back up their remarks. If they are unwilling, that’s enough - no need to beat the dead horse.
 
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I defer to the poster who made the claim; it is their responsibility to back up their remarks. If they are unwilling, that’s enough - no need to beat the dead horse.
I didn’t think you would.
 
I didn’t think you would.
Why would you think otherwise? I have made that very point before.

BTW thanks for this calibration:
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I don’t keep track of such things, but there have been numerous times when I have asked for evidence and received none. It’s not peculiar to conservatives. But I’ll add that if I believe I’m being taunted pointlessly by some Democratic spokesperson, I sometimes will not go hunt sources for them. If they want to show the world that I’m wrong, they can come up with their own sources. To be frank, I have sometimes demanded sources from some liberal posters who ask for sources for things everybody …
 
Calling her a servant of Satan is totally off the range.
I do not think she meant to be such a servant, but there is no doubt that abortion is his great attack on our country. If the United States falls (when), it will be because of our disregard for life. Those that belittle defenders of life as if they were crackpots do the work of Satan.

As to here use of “baby”, I do not know if she is just stupid or was drunk. To me, she sounded someone intoxicated, but I do not know how she normal speaks.
 
As to here use of “baby”, I do not know if she is just stupid or was drunk. To me, she sounded someone intoxicated, but I do not know how she normal speaks.
That’s how she normally speaks.

That joke about abortion was carefully and deliberately crafted. It shocked me at first too. But then I thought about her choice to use the word “baby” and realized she effectively ripped off the veil of euphemism Planned Parenthood uses to dehumanize the children they kill. That can’t have made them happy.

Then she hit at the hypocrisy of conservatives who use abortion as a political wedge issue without any real moral commitment.

I think she succeeded in generating a lot of sympathy for the unborn child, and anger at disingenuous politicians.
 
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That joke about abortion was carefully and deliberately crafted. It shocked me at first too.
It was more than I will allow. There are few people I will not ever give a second hear to, but she is now one of those I can count on my fingers, I will never again listen to, hear, watch, etc. If it was carefully crafted, she failed with me. As you know, I am not an extremist, so it is likely she will become a liability in many more ways.
 
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It was more than I will allow. There are few people I will not ever give a second hear to, but she is now one of those I can count on my fingers, I will never again listen to, hear, watch, etc. If it was carefully crafted, she failed with me. As you know, I am not an extremist, so it is likely she will become a liability in many more ways.
I think she accomplished her goal of getting a lot of attention and increasing her audience, even it you will not be a part of it. No offense meant, but unless you are an educated suburban white woman, I doubt you are part of the demographic she was aiming at anyway.

That’s the nature of provocators. They only appeal to a slice of the American public. I can’t listen to Rush Limbaugh at all and can only take small doses of Milo Yiannopoulos.

I think she’ll just be speaking to her own crowd from now on. While I wouldn’t turn the channel if she appears again on the Daily Show, I wouldn’t make a point to watch her either. I think Eddie Izzard is the only comedian I would go out of my way to watch today.
 
I can’t listen to Rush Limbaugh at all and can only take small doses of Milo Yiannopoulos.
Exactly. And if he was an actor who was in a movie, I am sure you would not go. People can have their careers stifled and curtailed by their offensiveness. Heard much from the Dixie Chicks lately? I think you may be right about her audience, but mostly because that will be the corner into which she has trapped herself.
 
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I think she accomplished her goal of getting a lot of attention and increasing her audience, even it you will not be a part of it.
And just in time for the announcement of her Netflix deal and her presently available performance on HBO.

I’m sure she bothered a lot of people, but those she didn’t might be now aware of her shows.
 
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I can’t listen to Rush Limbaugh at all and can only take small doses of Milo Yiannopoulos.
Exactly. And if he was an actor who was in a movie, I am sure you would not go. People can have their careers stifled and curtailed by their offensiveness. Heard much from the Dixie Chicks lately? I think you may be right about her audience, but mostly because that will be the corner into which she has trapped herself.
Maybe. The Dixie Chicks might make a come back too. Great band. Country music fans were idiots to blacklist them. Those ladies are awesome artists.
 
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I think she accomplished her goal of getting a lot of attention and increasing her audience, even it you will not be a part of it.
And just in time for the announcement of her Netflix deal and her presently available performance on HBO.

I’m sure she bothered a lot of people, but those she didn’t might be now aware of her shows.
That’s right. The folks she offended would never have been fans anyway.
 
Country music fans were idiots to blacklist them. Those ladies are awesome artists.
That’s rough. It is not idiocy to not want to support political messages you do not agree with. There is a lesson for entertainers and celebrities in this. Playing politics instead of entertaining might well cost you money, popularity, and opportunity in your profession.
 
hopefully, her career will take a nosedive like that of Kathy Griffin.
 
hopefully, her career will take a nosedive like that of Kathy Griffin
Doubt it. Griffin had other factors against her. The image of her holding a bloody erica of the presidents head was unleashing to pow (left and right leaning) and it was considered a possible threat on the presidents well being. The later of those two factors triggered a number of other consequences

Wokf’s humor at worst is viewed as in poor taste. But it hasn’t insofar as I’ve seen been considered threatening. She so has one deal qppparently completed and another one underway. She will be fine.
 
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hopefully, her career will take a nosedive like that of Kathy Griffin
Doubt it. Griffin had other factors against her. The image of her holding a bloody erica of the presidents head was unleashing to pow (left and right leaning) and it was considered a possible threat on the presidents well being. The later of those two factors triggered a number of other consequences

Wokf’s humor at worst is viewed as in poor taste. But it hasn’t insofar as I’ve seen been considered threatening. She so has one deal qppparently completed and another one underway. She will be fine.
she will be fine only if she is really funny.
 
she will be fine only if she is really funny.
Shell be fine as lone as she has enough people that are motivated to allow her to entertain them. “Really funny” is going to be something that can vary wildly from person to person. I want a fan of her humor on “The Daily Show.” But I thought it was entertaining. I listened to her HBO show on the ride into work this AM and thought she made good points and found it entertaining.
 
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