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I know. Even though you are trinitarian, you seem to believe that the Second Person of the Trinity somehow did not participate in the giving of the Law.As for, “if you love Me you will keep My commandments,” well, we’ve been all through that. No one has yet shown me where Jesus called the 10 Commandments “My commandments.”
I agree. If a person is regenerated, and living by the Spirit, such a person will, by virtue of his new nature, created in Christ, will keep the commandments. The obedience to His commandments is evidence of our love for Him. It flows out of our relationship with HIm. And, His commandments are not burdensome.Plus, he says, “If you love Me you will keep My commandments.” He does not say “If you keep My commandments I will save you.”
“God is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.” Phil 2:13You’re spinning again, Guanophore.Where is it stated the ministry of the H.S. is to enable the believer to keep the commandments?
“And God is able to provide you with every blessing in abundance, so that you may always have enough of everything and may provide in abundance for every good work.” 2 Cor 9:7-9
Well, you answered your own question! This is an example of where scripture shows that it is the ministry of the Spirit to bring about in us obedience to all that God desires. It is not by our own power that we can avoid carrying out the desires of the flesh, but by His!It is stated, however, that the believer is to now walk in/by the Spirit (who indwells him) and he will not carry out the desire of the flesh:Gal 5:16 “But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.”
Scripture makes no distinction of "true believers’ from “other” believers. This letter is written to those whom Paul defines at the beginning as “true believers”.All who enter the kingdom of God are possessors of eternal life. The “kingdom of God” is a broad term which includes all that is holy, such as the holy angels and all the redeemed of mankind. The kingdom itself is not eternal life, but all men who inherit it have it.1 Cor 6:9 “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,…”
Gal 5:19-21 "Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."True believers are not named among those in 1 Cor. 6:9 but are the “washed,” “sanctified” and “justified” in verse eleven.
This is, indeed, Catholic Teaching.Those sins listed in Gal. 5 are “deeds of the flesh” which believers can avoid by walking in/by the Spirit Who now indwells them.
I think one must apply the word “condition” differently. Those who practice such deeds are not in a condition of those who are in a state of grace, and reflect a lifestyle that does not inherit the kingdom. A person who has made a “true” profession of faith can fall from a state of grace, and return to a lifetyle of living by the flesh. If this were not possible, Paul and the other writers would not have to write so many warnings about it.Paul separates believers from the unrighteous who “practice” (by nature, pattern of lifestyle) such deeds. They being “in the flesh,” which the true believer is not (Rom. 8:9). For instance:Eph 5:18 "And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit,"This is an exhortation to proper behavior for the redeemed in Christ, not a condition (qualification) for salvation.
Well, I agree. I am mystified why you read these passages with such a legalistic mindset. this is not the Apostolic Teaching.The problem with the legalistic mindset is that it interprets every exhortation in Scripture to the redeemed in Christ as a divine condition to be met in order to inherit salvation. Such a mindset cannot ever grasp GRACE. It kicks against the goads. The only way out for the person with such a mindset is to allow GRACE to grasp him (through faith). But few ever do.