Commandments

[BTTG]

Hi Craig,
Who abolished the 2nd commandment?

Jon

I don’t know.

In my bible (KJV) the second commandment is (Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

(Exo 20:6) And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

However, when I read the Catholic Catechism that commandment is omitted.

craig

 

[JonNC]

I don’t know.

In my bible (KJV) the second commandment is (Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

(Exo 20:6) And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

However, when I read the Catholic Catechism that commandment is omitted.

craig

Craig,
The graven image prohibition is included in the first commandment by both Catholics and Lutherans. Again, the way different faith communities number them does not mean that the someone excludes something. Neither Catholics nor Lutherans pray to graven images, or practice idolatry.

Jon

 

[BTTG]

Craig,
The graven image prohibition is included in the first commandment by both Catholics and Lutherans. Again, the way different faith communities number them does not mean that the someone excludes something. Neither Catholics nor Lutherans pray to graven images, or practice idolatry.

Jon

In utmost respect Jon, God provided one commandment for; you shall have no other gods before me and another commandment for " graven images". God established 2 separate commandments. God is perfect, He knows the past present and future. If God wanted the
two commandments to be joined as one He would have done so we he gave them to Moses. It was the Catholics who changed the 2 commandments into one.

craig

 

[JonNC]

In utmost respect Jon, God provided one commandment for; you shall have no other gods before me and another commandment for " graven images". God established 2 separate commandments. God is perfect, He knows the past present and future. If God wanted the
two commandments to be joined as one He would have done so we he gave them to Moses. It was the Catholics who changed the 2 commandments into one.

craig

Craig,
I just think its a distinction without a difference. Ex.20 doesn’t show the commands numbered. And if you want to list them by “Thou shalt not’s”, you then have to break verse 17 into 2 separate commandments. I have no problem with other numberings. I do have a problem with some who question the motives of others and the way they number them. I’m not saying you do this, but some do. And since Lutherans number the same way as Catholics, I guess that’s why I respond to these kinds of threads.

BLessings to you,
Jon

 

[Roman_Catholic_1]

In utmost respect Jon, God provided one commandment for; you shall have no other gods before me and another commandment for " graven images". God established 2 separate commandments. God is perfect, He knows the past present and future. If God wanted the
two commandments to be joined as one He would have done so we he gave them to Moses. It was the Catholics who changed the 2 commandments into one.

craig

If the commandments were to be numbered how you suggest then the first three would be:

1. You shall have no other gods before me (Ex. 20:3)
2. You shall not make for yourself a graven image (Ex. 20:4)
3. You shall not bow down to them or serve them (Ex. 20:5)

These are three “separate” commandments (or atleast how you see “separate”) yet you see no problem with you joining #2 and #3 but you take issue with other Christians joining #2 & #3 with #1? Why?

3 "**You shall have no other gods before me. 4 “**You shall *not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 **you shall **not bow down to them or serve them…”

So, BTTG, why do you include #3 with #2? Why have you “changed” what God has seen fit to be separate?

The point is that the commandments are not numbered in the Bible, they are listed. There is no “Ten Commandments” of the Ex., there are several commandments (I believe there is a dozen but I would have to re-read Ex. to be sure) that different Christian traditions have numbered differently. For instance you include making gaven images with bowing to them and serving them. Catholics and Lutherans include both of those two with the commandment against having other gods. So what’s your beef BTTG?

BTTG:

It was the Catholics who changed the 2 commandments into one.

I don’t recall doing this… Is there a commandment about bearing false witness? :sad_yes:

God bless you

 

[Third_Day]

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However, when I read the Catholic Catechism that commandment is omitted.

craig

You need to go back and read the Catechism again.

 

[Roman_Catholic_1]

However, when I read the Catholic Catechism that commandment is omitted.

craig

Graig, for those of us coming up a little short in the reading comprehension department; can you show us where the CCC has ommited this? This is taken for an online Catchism found here:

scborromeo.org/ccc/ccc_toc.htm

ARTICLE 1: THE FIRST COMMANDMENT

      I. "You Shall Worship the Lord Your God and Him Only Shall You Serve"
     II. "Him Only Shall You Serve"
    III. "You Shall Have No Other Gods before Me"
     IV. "You Shall Not Make for Yourself a Graven Image"
         IN BRIEF

And for your reading section IV:

scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c1a1.htm#IV

God bless you

 

[rinnie]

You need to go back and read the Catechism again.

I think this is the best answer! All I can add is maybe then repeat the process

 

[SDA2RC]

I don’t know.

However, when I read the Catholic Catechism that commandment is omitted.

craig

Craig… so your Bible says: The first commandment is “…”
The Second commandment is “…”
The third commandment is “…”

Because I have never read a Bible that numbers the imperatives… there are 13 imperatives in the 10 commandments.

The Catholic Church numbers them differently than most protestants (lutherans excepted) but does not really care how it is done… it is simply done that way following the example of Augustine.

The Catholic Catechism states:
2066 The division and numbering of the Commandments have varied in the course of history. The present catechism follows the division of the Commandments established by St. Augustine, which has become traditional in the Catholic Church. It is also that of the Lutheran confessions. The Greek Fathers worked out a slightly different division, which is found in the Orthodox Churches and Reformed communities.
This is what we do… but a Catholic could also number them the same way you do… its just perference.

You quoted the scriptures from your Bible in your post showing the order of the verses and commandments… I invite you to read from a Catholic Bible here and tell me what has been oimitted.

Futher, you state that we ommitted the second commandment… Actually, we numbered them this way prior to all protestant churches being around… therefore it is the protestant churches that changed the commandments.

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 2083, our first commandment is:

"I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them.3
It is written: “You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.”

Please tell me what part of the commandments were omitted? Numbered differently yes, but what was omitted?

Unfortunately, this is what happens when you believe what people tell you about the Catholic Church without actually checking it out!

Craig, what denomination do you belong to or associate yourself with?

Futhermore you have claimed that we Catholic CHANGED the Sabbath… Here is what our catechism says:

in Paragraph 2175:

“Sunday is expressly distinguished from the sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the sabbath. In Christ’s Passover, Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish sabbath and announces man’s eternal rest in God. For worship under the Law prepared for the mystery of Christ, and what was done there prefigured some aspects of Christ:”

The Catechism states clearly that Sunday is the day AFTER the sabbath. How did we change the sabbath when we state very clearly that the Sabbath is on Saturday?

 

[SDA2RC]

In utmost respect Jon, God provided one commandment for; you shall have no other gods before me and another commandment for " graven images". God established 2 separate commandments. God is perfect, He knows the past present and future. If God wanted the
two commandments to be joined as one He would have done so we he gave them to Moses. It was the Catholics who changed the 2 commandments into one.

craig

With all due respect Craig,
Where in scripture does God say, “This is the first commandment”, “This is the second commandment”, “This is the third commandment”…etc

Are you really upset because we assigned different numbers than you do? Really?

Because if thats the case… we really dont care how they are numbered, as long as everything is included. Thats just the way we do it… but we can also do it the other way if we want. There is no Catholic Doctrine or Dogma saying this is how the commandments have to be numbered, its just how we have always done it! LOL

 

[BlackBeard54]

sigh I’ve come to think of people like the OP as “seminar callers.” (Yes, I’m an old Rush listener.)

The comparison is valid though. I hear them a lot on the EWTN call-in programs, and see them a lot in the Catholic Forums. They always start out with a simple question, sometimes taking a moment to announce that they are either newly called or long-time Catholics, but this little thing here has them confused. Then they whup out the list of anti-Catholic tallking points, and eventually turn contentious. Sometimes they hang around to stir the pot, and sometimes they just lob the grenade and get out of Dodge.

It really seems like they go to meeting someplace, where they get briefed on how to attack. “Make sure you say how long you have loved the Church, then throw in something about how Vatican II messed everything up.” “Yeah, then hit them with the Mary thing, that always riles them up!” Do they really think that we haven’t thought of any of this in 2000 years?

The funny thing is, they defeat their own purpose. I usually come away having recieved some really interesting and valuable cathechesis that I may not have had before, either from the EWTN hosts or some of my amazing brothers and sisters on the forums, It reminds me to be grateful to the OP, as I pray for the scales to drop from their eyes!

 

[BTTG]

Craig,
I just think its a distinction without a difference. Ex.20 doesn’t show the commands numbered. And if you want to list them by “Thou shalt not’s”, you then have to break verse 17 into 2 separate commandments. I have no problem with other numberings. I do have a problem with some who question the motives of others and the way they number them. I’m not saying you do this, but some do. And since Lutherans number the same way as Catholics, I guess that’s why I respond to these kinds of threads.

BLessings to you,
Jon

Hi Jon

I have no problem with numberings. It was probably man that came up with the “10” commandments. I agree, the commandments do not have to be broken, when God starts with " thou shalt not". Because one of the commandments start with "Remember’ . My point is that the Catholic church quietly submerges the “graven image” commandment in their literature. For example:

Whereas the Catechism’s traditional presentation of the commandments for memorization are:

1. I am the Lord your God: You shall not have strange Gods before me.
2. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
3. Remember to keep holy the Lord’s Day.
4. Honor your father and mother.
5. You shall not kill.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods.

If it doesn’t matter if there is 9, 10 or 12 commandments, why does the Catholic Church take Exo. 20 verse 17 and divide it into 2 commandments to make the “10” commandments? All of verse 17 is talking about covetness. My thinking is that since the Catholic Church, as you say, joined vs 2 and 3 together in Exo. 20 , they divided vs 17 to make “10” commandments.

Furthermore, the Catholic’s 3rd commandment, is a commandment that the Catholics changed from the true Sabbath day to Sunday.

As stated in the following reference material that was provided to me by someone on this site.

Since both Exodus and Deuteronomy open in basic agreement on observing or remembering to keep holy the Sabbath, there is little controversy today between denominations on this commandment’s meaning that a special day of the week is to be kept holy. However, the Catechism emphasizes the Christian tradition that the special day to be kept holy is called the Lord’s Day (Latin, Dies Domini), which is Sunday, the day of Jesus’ resurrection. The early delineation of Sunday as the Lord’s Day is seen already in Revelation 1:10.

It is not the Christian tradition to keep Sunday Holy, but the Catholic tradition to keep Sunday Holy as the Sabbath day. It is the “Catechism’s emphasis”, not the bibles emphasis that honors Sunday. Where in the bible was the Sabbath changed to Sunday. Where in the bible does it say we honor Jesus’ resurrection on Sunday. Is not baptism a memorial of Christ’s death, burial and resurrection?

As stated above the author mentions Rev 1:10. (Rev 1:10) I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

This author is only assuming that the Lord’s day is Sunday. By this text how do we know what day this really is? It could be Saturday or Sunday.

To find out what day the " Lord’s day" is on…

(Exo 20:10) But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

(Isa 58:13) If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

Jesus and Paul worshiped and preached on the Sabbath (Saturday) day. Paul preached to the Jews and to the Gentiles on the Sabbath.

Jon, I thank you for your dialog. I am learning.

craig

 

[BTTG]

If the commandments were to be numbered how you suggest then the first three would be:

1. You shall have no other gods before me (Ex. 20:3)
2. You shall not make for yourself a graven image (Ex. 20:4)
3. You shall not bow down to them or serve them (Ex. 20:5)

These are three “separate” commandments (or atleast how you see “separate”) yet you see no problem with you joining #2 and #3 but you take issue with other Christians joining #2 & #3 with #1? Why?

So, BTTG, why do you include #3 with #2? Why have you “changed” what God has seen fit to be separate?

The point is that the commandments are not numbered in the Bible, they are listed. There is no “Ten Commandments” of the Ex., there are several commandments (I believe there is a dozen but I would have to re-read Ex. to be sure) that different Christian traditions have numbered differently. For instance you include making gaven images with bowing to them and serving them. Catholics and Lutherans include both of those two with the commandment against having other gods. So what’s your beef BTTG?

I don’t recall doing this… Is there a commandment about bearing false witness? :sad_yes:

God bless you

You are absolutely correct. I should not have stated that the Catholics changed Exo. 20 vs 3 and 4 into 1 commandment. This was wrong of me. I have asked God for forgiveness.
It is my thinking that vs 3 is one commandment and vs 4 another commandment.

craig

 

[BTTG]

Craig… so your Bible says: The first commandment is “…”
The Second commandment is “…”
The third commandment is “…”

Because I have never read a Bible that numbers the imperatives… there are 13 imperatives in the 10 commandments.

The Catholic Church numbers them differently than most protestants (lutherans excepted) but does not really care how it is done… it is simply done that way following the example of Augustine.

The Catholic Catechism states:
2066 The division and numbering of the Commandments have varied in the course of history. The present catechism follows the division of the Commandments established by St. Augustine, which has become traditional in the Catholic Church. It is also that of the Lutheran confessions. The Greek Fathers worked out a slightly different division, which is found in the Orthodox Churches and Reformed communities.
This is what we do… but a Catholic could also number them the same way you do… its just perference.

You quoted the scriptures from your Bible in your post showing the order of the verses and commandments… I invite you to read from a Catholic Bible here and tell me what has been oimitted.

Futher, you state that we ommitted the second commandment… Actually, we numbered them this way prior to all protestant churches being around… therefore it is the protestant churches that changed the commandments.

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 2083, our first commandment is:

"I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them.3
It is written: “You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.”

Please tell me what part of the commandments were omitted? Numbered differently yes, but what was omitted?

Unfortunately, this is what happens when you believe what people tell you about the Catholic Church without actually checking it out!

Craig, what denomination do you belong to or associate yourself with?

Futhermore you have claimed that we Catholic CHANGED the Sabbath… Here is what our catechism says:

in Paragraph 2175:

“Sunday is expressly distinguished from the sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the sabbath. In Christ’s Passover, Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish sabbath and announces man’s eternal rest in God. For worship under the Law prepared for the mystery of Christ, and what was done there prefigured some aspects of Christ:”

The Catechism states clearly that Sunday is the day AFTER the sabbath. How did we change the sabbath when we state very clearly that the Sabbath is on Saturday?

Hello,

First, I apologized in a previous reply stating…

You are absolutely correct. I should not have stated that the Catholics changed Exo. 20 vs 3 and 4 into 1 commandment. This was wrong of me. I have asked God for forgiveness.
It is my thinking that vs 3 is one commandment and vs 4 another commandment.

Secondly, about the Sabbath. Catholics changed the day of worship from the true Sabbath ( Saturday) to Sunday as the day of worship. In which after Jesus’ resurrection, at the time of Paul, Christians were still worshiping on the Sabbath.

Can I ask you when the Catholics started worshiping on Sunday?

Could you please explain this quote to me a little more clear. Thank you

craig

 

[Roman_Catholic_1]

My point is that the Catholic church **quietly submerges **the “graven image” commandment in their literature.

You’re projecting. There are a couple problems with your stance. One the Catholic Church does no such thiing. I already gave you the CCC link to exactly what you are referring to.

ARTICLE 1: THE FIRST COMMANDMENT

I. “You Shall Worship the Lord Your God and Him Only Shall You Serve”
II. “Him Only Shall You Serve”
III. “You Shall Have No Other Gods before Me”
IV. "You Shall Not Make for Yourself a Graven Image"
IN BRIEF

scborromeo.org/ccc/ccc_toc.htm

What is so “quiet” there?

The other problem is, if the Catholic Church “quietly submerges” the graven image part (again it doesn’t) does the Lutheran Church do so as well? Why would they do that?

It is not the Christian tradition to keep Sunday Holy, but the Catholic tradition to
keep Sunday Holy as the Sabbath day.

Is it your contention that Catholics are not Christian?

God bless

 

[Roman_Catholic_1]

You are absolutely correct. I should not have stated that the Catholics changed Exo. 20 vs 3 and 4 into 1 commandment. This was wrong of me. I have asked God for forgiveness.
It is my thinking that vs 3 is one commandment and vs 4 another commandment.

craig

Why is verse 5 not its own commandment?

God bless

 

[SDA2RC]

Hello,

First, I apologized in a previous reply stating…

You are absolutely correct. I should not have stated that the Catholics changed Exo. 20 vs 3 and 4 into 1 commandment. This was wrong of me. I have asked God for forgiveness.
It is my thinking that vs 3 is one commandment and vs 4 another commandment.

No problem!

Secondly, about the Sabbath. Catholics changed the day of worship from the true Sabbath ( Saturday) to Sunday as the day of worship. In which after Jesus’ resurrection, at the time of Paul, Christians were still worshiping on the Sabbath.

Craig, the 4th commandment say’s nothing about what day one has to Worship on, does it? Worshipping is not keeping the Sabbath. Catholics worship 7 days a week. Sabbatarians could too if they opened their doors.

The earliest writings of the Church show that before the last apostle died, Sunday was already the primary day of worship. There is not a single reference to any Christian (i.e. a believer after the resurrection of Christ) keeping the Sabbath as a day of rest, either in scripture or Church writings. But there are several references to Sunday.

Can I ask you when the Catholics started worshiping on Sunday?

On the Day of Pentecost!

 

[SDA2RC]

Craig,
It seems to me that the basis of your question is one of authority. i.e. you read and interpret scripture to mean one thing. Yet you see the Catholic Church doing something else… therefore you want to know why we don’t do/believe the same way you do when you read scripture? Is that correct?

If so, the real issues are the idea of sola scriptura, and the doctrine of the Church.

Do you agree or disagree?

 

[JonNC]

=BTTG;6992077]Hi Jon

I have no problem with numberings. It was probably man that came up with the “10” commandments. I agree, the commandments do not have to be broken, when God starts with " thou shalt not". Because one of the commandments start with "Remember’ . My point is that the Catholic church quietly submerges the “graven image” commandment in their literature. For example:

Whereas the Catechism’s traditional presentation of the commandments for memorization are:

1. I am the Lord your God: You shall not have strange Gods before me.
2. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
3. Remember to keep holy the Lord’s Day.
4. Honor your father and mother.
5. You shall not kill.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods.

Hi Craig.
This is the way Lutherans number the commandments also. Lutherans also, generally, accept the early ecumenical councils. one of which rejects iconoclasm. Would you then say, knowing this, that Lutherans have also “submerged” the graven image thing?

If it doesn’t matter if there is 9, 10 or 12 commandments, why does the Catholic Church take Exo. 20 verse 17 and divide it into 2 commandments to make the “10” commandments? All of verse 17 is talking about covetness. My thinking is that since the Catholic Church, as you say, joined vs 2 and 3 together in Exo. 20 , they divided vs 17 to make “10” commandments.

Verse 17 also say, “you shall not” twice. Apparently the need was there to separate “wife” from other property. And it seems to me that is the reason.

Furthermore, the Catholic’s 3rd commandment, is a commandment that the Catholics changed from the true Sabbath day to Sunday.

Well, you can’t blame Catholics alone for this, as virtually the entire Christian Church, east and west recognizes the Lord’s day.

As stated in the following reference material that was provided to me by someone on this site.

Since both Exodus and Deuteronomy open in basic agreement on observing or remembering to keep holy the Sabbath, there is little controversy today between denominations on this commandment’s meaning that a special day of the week is to be kept holy. However, the Catechism emphasizes the Christian tradition that the special day to be kept holy is called the Lord’s Day (Latin, Dies Domini), which is Sunday, the day of Jesus’ resurrection. The early delineation of Sunday as the Lord’s Day is seen already in Revelation 1:10.

It is not the Christian tradition to keep Sunday Holy, but the Catholic tradition to keep Sunday Holy as the Sabbath day. It is the “Catechism’s emphasis”, not the bibles emphasis that honors Sunday. Where in the bible was the Sabbath changed to Sunday. Where in the bible does it say we honor Jesus’ resurrection on Sunday. Is not baptism a memorial of Christ’s death, burial and resurrection?

As stated above the author mentions Rev 1:10. (Rev 1:10) I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

This author is only assuming that the Lord’s day is Sunday. By this text how do we know what day this really is? It could be Saturday or Sunday.

To find out what day the " Lord’s day" is on…

(Exo 20:10) But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

(Isa 58:13) If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

Jesus and Paul worshiped and preached on the Sabbath (Saturday) day. Paul preached to the Jews and to the Gentiles on the Sabbath.

Again, it is the practice of virtually all Christianity to celebrate the resurrection on Sundays.

Jon, I thank you for your dialog. I am learning.

You are welcome,
Jon

 

[BTTG]

No problem!

Craig, the 4th commandment say’s nothing about what day one has to Worship on, does it? Worshipping is not keeping the Sabbath. Catholics worship 7 days a week. Sabbatarians could too if they opened their doors.

The earliest writings of the Church show that before the last apostle died, Sunday was already the primary day of worship. There is not a single reference to any Christian (i.e. a believer after the resurrection of Christ) keeping the Sabbath as a day of rest, either in scripture or Church writings. But there are several references to Sunday.

I agree that our rest in Jesus is to be 7 days a week, without a doubt. Jesus told us to search the scriptures daily.

(Exo 31:13) Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

(Exo 31:14) Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

(Exo 31:15) Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

(Exo 31:16) Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

(Exo 31:17) It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

In … (Rev 14:7) Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

We are to worship Him … "made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. Who is Him that we are worshiping? Where do we find reference to this scripture?
We find it in (Exo 20:11) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

The seventh day is Holy and Blessed. Did God now change his mind after the resurrection of Jesus and change the day to Sunday as the Holy and Blessed day. i don’t read this in scripture.

The commandment of the Sabbath was still being observed for Paul preached to the Jews and Gentiles on the Sabbath. Also in (Luk 23:56) And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the Sabbath day according to the commandment.

The above verse was written at least 40 years after the crucifixion. The key words here are “according to the commandment”. It doesn’t read" according to the commandment that was". Therefore, the Sabbath day of rest and worship during the time of Luke were being obeyed.

As a side note the Sabbath will be observed in the new heavens and the new earth…(Isa 66:22) For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. (Isa 66:23) And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Could you provide scripture references to your statement,…But there are several references to Sunday.

Thank you for the dialog

craig