Commentary: 10 Reasons You Should Not Fear Muslims

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TonyBS said:
You are right yo should not fear or hate them because they have different Laws and way to practice their Faith. This difference is obvious between a Jew and a Christian as well.

As we tend to concentrate on this aspect of Faith, If we choose to look at the Spiritual Virtues in all Faiths, you will only find the same One and Only God.

Regards Tony
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I worship JESUS. Do you?
 
TonyBS said:
They are as different as Christianity is from Judaism. Thus I would consider what Truth you find in Christianity will be a truth found in Islam.

Here we are not talking about interpretation, but the Fundamental spiritual Truths, one being doing unto others as you would have then do unto you.

Regards Tony
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Are love and forgiveness to those who trespass against you one of them also?
 
TonyBS said:
It would be a stern warning not to make multiple of God.

“Your God is but one God. There is no god other than Him, Compassionate and Merciful. In the creation of the heavens and the earth, in the alternation of night and day, in the ships that ply the seas to the benefit of man, in the water sent down from the heavens to revive the earth after its death, in the different species of animals scattered across the earth, in the rotation of the winds, in the clouds that are subordinate to God’s command between heaven and earth, in all of this, there are signs for men who use their intellects.” (2:163-164)

“He is God, the One other than Whom there is no god, the knower of the hidden and the manifest, the Compassionate, the Merciful. He is God, the One other than Whom there is no god, the Commander, the All-powerful, Pure and Without Defect, the Bestower of Safety, the Protector, the Precious, the Mighty, the Sublime, the Most Elevated. Exempt and purified be He from the partners which they ascribe to Him.”(59:22-23)

"Have the ignorant polytheists abandoned the true God and chosen, instead, the false and powerless gods? Tell them: ‘Bring forth your proof!’ This call of mine to unity is my saying and that of all the learned men of the community, as well as the saying of all the Prophets and learned men before me. But these polytheists have no knowledge of the truth and constantly avert themselves from it. (21:24)

Regards Tony
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My GOD died on a cross for me so I would not have to die twice.
 
Even_So said:
Are love and forgiveness to those who trespass against you one of them also?
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Do not worry we will love and forgive you no matter what you dish out.

I am sure The Muslims will as well, but you will have to explain your comments to them.

Regards Tony
 
Even_So said:
My GOD died on a cross for me so I would not have to die twice.
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I would consider this about Muhammad and the Koran and then your statement may take on different thoughts. There is a greater Power to Fear and to Love. What a bounty both those things are with knowing God.

"Gracious God! How far have that people strayed from the way of God! Although the Day of Resurrection was ushered in through the Revelation of Muḥammad, although His light and tokens had encompassed the earth and all that is therein, yet that people derided Him, gave themselves up to those idols which the divines of that age, in their vain and idle fancy, had conceived, and deprived themselves of the light of heavenly grace and of the showers of divine mercy. Yea, the abject beetle can never scent the fragrance of holiness, and the bat of darkness can never face the splendour of the sun.

Such things have come to pass in the days of every Manifestation of God. Even as Jesus said: “Ye must be born again.”Again He saith: “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.”The purport of these words is that whosoever in every dispensation is born of the Spirit and is quickened by the breath of the Manifestation of Holiness, he verily is of those that have attained unto “life” and “resurrection” and have entered into the “paradise” of the love of God. And whosoever is not of them, is condemned to “death” and “deprivation,” to the “fire” of unbelief, and to the “wrath” of God". reference.bahai.org/en/t/b/KI/ki-4.html

Regards Tony
 
Even_So said:
Judaism also uses the word ELOHIM, plural for ELOHA, or possibly where Allah was derived from. Islam has no plural if I am correct in that assumption.
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Indeed that is an assumption dear Even So.

There are several verses in the Quran where Allah refers to Himself as “We” rather than “I”

However, that’s a BIG LEAP to assume that Judaism and Islam reference the Trinity when God speaks. You are contradicting Jewish Apostolic interpretation of what ELOHIM means when you assert what you are asserting 🙂

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TonyBS said:
Your motive for this? Thistles.

I also see every Muslim following the Words of Muhammad as in the Koran as I would see a practicing Christian. Good people of whom no fear is seen.

Consider all that transgress what their Book has told them are not true followers and have no right to the name.

Consider the silent killers, those that destroy lives from abuse within a system of belief. Just as bad but do not get the press as much, sometimes swept under the carpet for years. They also have no right to the name they profess.

Regards Tony
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If a person attends a mosque, prays his ritual five times a day, reads (or misreads) the koran, dresses in moslem attire, what are we supposed to call them?

For me I’m sure I have met muslims and was not afraid of them. They were in this country trying to assimilate while holding dear to their religion. God bless them. However many come here to force their ways on the rest of the people and many do so at the end of a sword (use force against us) which they say the koran tells them to do. I have often seen those quotes.

So please don’t tell me who I should and should not fear. Our God gave me a brain and has allowed me to use it to discern danger to me, my family, and my country.
 
only until some (not all of them will) become radicalized after doing their Haji pilgrimage, like the San Beradino shooters. Hopefully, that won’t become a regular thing in America. Most of them are like the Muslims who raised money for the victims families. It doesn’t mean we can’t pray and be aware of our surroundings.
 
TARRAT said:
If a person attends a mosque, prays his ritual five times a day, reads (or misreads) the koran, dresses in moslem attire, what are we supposed to call them?

For me I’m sure I have met muslims and was not afraid of them. They were in this country trying to assimilate while holding dear to their religion. God bless them. However many come here to force their ways on the rest of the people and many do so at the end of a sword (use force against us) which they say the koran tells them to do. I have often seen those quotes.

So please don’t tell me who I should and should not fear. Our God gave me a brain and has allowed me to use it to discern danger to me, my family, and my country.
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One only have oneself to fear, as it is self what keeps us from God.

The remainder is Gods Will, to which we embrace with relish in Love of our God. It is all a bounty unto us.

The world today is also unfolding so we will.learn from.what we have done to ourselves, again self the enemy. When we find out how much we have contributed to this with our ignorance, then true humility may be possible.

God bless and regards Tony
 
TARRAT said:
If a person attends a mosque, prays his ritual five times a day, reads (or misreads) the koran, dresses in moslem attire, what are we supposed to call them?
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You would call them a Muslim.

If one transgresses the Laws and guidance set by Muhammad, you could pray for them instead of fear.

One can condem an action done by any supposed follower of any Faith, but in each case it is not an action condoned by their Faith, thus it was not a Jew or a Christian or a Muslim that did it, but a misguided individual.

Prayer is needed. Condem the action, pray for the Soul and offer but LOVE in return.

This is beating swords into plowshares.

Regards Tony
 
TonyBS said:
You would call them a Muslim.

If one transgresses the Laws and guidance set by Muhammad, you could pray for them instead of fear.

One can condem an action done by any supposed follower of any Faith, but in each case it is not an action condoned by their Faith, thus it was not a Jew or a Christian or a Muslim that did it, but a misguided individual.

Prayer is needed. Condem the action, pray for the Soul and offer but LOVE in return.

This is beating swords into plowshares.

Regards Tony
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Prayer does not stop bombs and bullets.
 
TonyBS said:
May Gods Will be done!

It will indeed stop these events if we Pray to put away our differences and worship our One God.

Regards Tony
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Thank you, Tony.
My observation, for what it’s worth, is that no Muslim or group of Muslims presently has the power to cause the death of every last man, woman, and child on the face of the earth.
Above all else, we need to fear our own selves, because we do have that power.

See Isaiah 66:15-16 and Jeremiah 25:33 “Those slaughtered . . .will be scattered across the world from end to end. . .”

WW III, a global nuclear war, is heading for the earth like a runaway freight train.The only way to mitigate this disaster is through Unilateral Nuclear Disarmament. (See Thread)
 
jeffrey_erwin said:
Thank you, Tony.
My observation, for what it’s worth, is that no Muslim or group of Muslims presently has the power to cause the death of every last man, woman, and child on the face of the earth.
Above all else, we need to fear our own selves, because we do have that power.

See Isaiah 66:15-16 and Jeremiah 25:33 “Those slaughtered . . .will be scattered across the world from end to end. . .”

WW III, a global nuclear war, is heading for the earth like a runaway freight train.The only way to mitigate this disaster is through Unilateral Nuclear Disarmament. (See Thread)
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Good post Jeffrey - This is one of the mysteries of Free Will. A gift if we gibe it back to God, a destroyer of humanity if we do not.

The Animal Self the Devil in this process, the Spiritual Self is the one we can have satisfaction in. The Spiritual Self finds God within, with His Laws.

Regards Tony
 
Blessed is the one who acknowledges Allah and His wonders, and who confesses that He is not to be questioned about what He does.
Mirzah Husayn Ali
 
jeffrey_erwin said:
Blessed is the one who acknowledges Allah and His wonders, and who confesses that He is not to be questioned about what He does.
Mirzah Husayn Ali
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Again a good selection of a quote Jeffrey as this verse is the Foundation of Faith. It is fact the strongest most perfect foundation.

Just as an interesting sideline to this above quote, the writings also expands on this in a few places like these thoughts;

"He doeth what He willeth and ordaineth whatsoever He pleaseth". Just prior to this it was written ‘For instance, were He to take a handful of earth and declare it to be the One Whom ye have been following in the past, it would undoubtedly be just and true, even as His real Person, and to none is given the right to question His authority’.

Elsewhere it is written that God gives us leave to ask us of a single proof and when we ask of that proof we are to be satisfied with the one and no more and accept the response given.

Interesting! 😉

Thank you for the post, Regards Tony
 
Please visit my thread: “Unilateral Nuclear Disarmament” and let me know what you thoughts about that are. So far no one else supports this idea.
 
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