Connecticut school shooting: Lawmakers offer prayers amid calls for gun control

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Prodigal_Son1 said:
Nothing will work, it’s all a ‘dodge’ if it’s against someone giving up some rights. I would gladly check my guns in and out of a sheriff’s office. I would make wait times more lengthy for people to purchase guns. Someone else mentioned controlling ammo, that’s not a bad idea. But watching some on these threads LOLing like nothing significant has happened, and others claiming ‘gun rights’ over everything else is not going to help anyone in the future. Where’s the concern for these people who lost all rights yesterday?
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all that sounds wonderful for us law abiding citizens. but how would any of that stopped yesterdays massacre? ammo, people can buy supplies to reload their own.
Im not sayin Im not willin to give a day or a week or a month on purchasing a firearm, my point is, is that all u listed above will do NOTHING to stop criminals from stealin guns from houses, from department stores, from gun shops. all that u listed only makes it harder for the victims to get guns
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
Nothing will work, it’s all a ‘dodge’ if it’s against someone giving up some rights. I would gladly check my guns in and out of a sheriff’s office. I would make wait times more lengthy for people to purchase guns. Someone else mentioned controlling ammo, that’s not a bad idea. But watching some on these threads LOLing like nothing significant has happened, and others claiming ‘gun rights’ over everything else is not going to help anyone in the future. Where’s the concern for these people who lost all rights yesterday?
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Sorry, it’s not a NON-NEGOTIABLE as abortion is. If anyone played dodge, it was those who downtalked Romney the pro-life candidate, now the shoes on the other foot, but having a gun has plenty of moral attributes. There is a lot more justifcation to own a weapon than talking down a candidate who pledged to defund planned parenthood.

These issues are about life, not being selective and quoting the Gospel at opportune times.
 
chadair said:
Im confused :confused:
looks like u said the majority of people kill people with guns :confused:
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Let’s say it this way, more intentional killings are accomplished with guns. Does that make it sound any better? What is the acceptable body count here?
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
Nothing will work, it’s all a ‘dodge’ if it’s against someone giving up some rights. I would gladly check my guns in and out of a sheriff’s office. I would make wait times more lengthy for people to purchase guns. Someone else mentioned controlling ammo, that’s not a bad idea. But watching some on these threads LOLing like nothing significant has happened, and others claiming ‘gun rights’ over everything else is not going to help anyone in the future. Where’s the concern for these people who lost all rights yesterday?
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But would any of that have blocked this shooting. You lament the deaths, as is proper, but guns laws are clearly not the solution.

CT already has strong gun control laws. It was already illegal for the shooter to have those guns in his possestion. Heck, since he didn’t have a drivers license, it was even illegal for him to drive to the school in the first place.

So, what laws would the shooter have followed that would have prevented this? What background check, what increase in the lenght of time required to purchase a firearm?

In other words, it’s fine if you just want to rant, but if you seek a change, it would help if you articulated specifically WHAT you are looking to change.
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
Nothing will work, it’s all a ‘dodge’ if it’s against someone giving up some rights. I would gladly check my guns in and out of a sheriff’s office. I would make wait times more lengthy for people to purchase guns. Someone else mentioned controlling ammo, that’s not a bad idea. But watching some on these threads LOLing like nothing significant has happened, and others claiming ‘gun rights’ over everything else is not going to help anyone in the future. Where’s the concern for these people who lost all rights yesterday?
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How would any of that nonsense saved even one life yesterday, or for that matter in any of the shootings?

How naive.

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livingwordunity said:
There are enough police officers to dedicate one or two to each school. And a police officer wouldn’t mind risking their life to save a child.
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So it’s ok to risk police and other lives as long as we maintain the right to own any type weapon we want?
 
BroomWagon said:
Sorry, it’s not a NON-NEGOTIABLE as abortion is. If anyone played dodge, it was those who downtalked Romney the pro-life candidate, now the shoes on the other foot, but having a gun has plenty of moral attributes. There is a lot more justifcation to own a weapon than talking down a candidate who pledged to defund planned parenthood.

These issues are about life, not being selective and quoting the Gospel at opportune times.
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Agreed. A gun can be used for good or evil. Abortion can only be used for evil.
 
Brendan said:
But would any of that have blocked this shooting. You lament the deaths, as is proper, but guns laws are clearly not the solution.

CT already has strong gun control laws. It was already illegal for the shooter to have those guns in his possestion. Heck, since he didn’t have a drivers license, it was even illegal for him to drive to the school in the first place.

So, what laws would the shooter have followed that would have prevented this? What background check, what increase in the lenght of time required to purchase a firearm?

In other words, it’s fine if you just want to rant, but if you seek a change, it would help if you articulated specifically WHAT you are looking to change.
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You know, the license thing might be a solution. People have to prove themselves to drive a car and must have a license. Why would it be any different on a tool that is specifically designed to kill?
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
Three mass shootings in how many days now? How many this year? It’s getting worse…
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If an armed citizen were within range of any of these shooters…the shootings would not have been “mass”. You do what you want, I’ll be packing. Gun control is using BOTH hands…
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
So it’s ok to risk police and other lives as long as we maintain the right to own any type weapon we want?
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I thought you were more interested in practical solutions instead of making this a political argument? The solution I offered of dedicating a police officer or two to each school is a practical one that every reasonable-minded person should be able to agree with. Police officers already have the training. Do you believe that guns should be taken away from police officers, too?
 
Brendan said:
But would any of that have blocked this shooting. You lament the deaths, as is proper, but guns laws are clearly not the solution.

CT already has strong gun control laws. It was already illegal for the shooter to have those guns in his possestion. Heck, since he didn’t have a drivers license, it was even illegal for him to drive to the school in the first place.

So, what laws would the shooter have followed that would have prevented this? What background check, what increase in the lenght of time required to purchase a firearm?

In other words, it’s fine if you just want to rant, but if you seek a change, it would help if you articulated specifically WHAT you are looking to change.
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Fair points. Laws are worthless without law enforcement.
 
BroomWagon said:
Sorry, it’s not a NON-NEGOTIABLE as abortion is. If anyone played dodge, it was those who downtalked Romney the pro-life candidate, now the shoes on the other foot, but having a gun has plenty of moral attributes. There is a lot more justifcation to own a weapon than talking down a candidate who pledged to defund planned parenthood.

These issues are about life, not being selective and quoting the Gospel at opportune times.
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Romney who said he was more pro choice than Kennedy, but changed to only on special occasions when his political aspirations changed?

Yea, guns have moral attributes, we witnessed some of those morals yesterday.

If you can’t be pro life on all lives, then do some soul searching…
 
livingwordunity said:
I thought you were more interested in practical solutions instead of making this a political argument? The solution I offered of dedicating a police officer or two to each school is a practical one. They already have the training. Do you believe that guns should be taken away from police officers, too?
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Ironic coming from someone who repeatedly ignored my request to discuss the bible passage you provided as if it were in support of being ‘armed’.

Yes, I’ve seen the practical side of your solution at our local school. The school cop wasn’t fit for road duty, so he was assigned to the school. Now, what is the acceptable body count? Two cops at a school, covering how many entrances at once? Gunman comes in the far side of school, how many rounds could he get off with two automatic pistols before they reach him?
 
shipwrkd said:
If an armed citizen were within range of any of these shooters…the shootings would not have been “mass”. You do what you want, I’ll be packing. Gun control is using BOTH hands…
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So as long as you can keep your gun rights, there is an acceptable body count?
 
livingwordunity said:
Or Obama who was the ultimate Pro-Abortion candidate.
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So, they both were pro choice and I didn’t vote for either. Did you vote for a pro choice person? Now, explain how that affects a gunman walking into a school and shooting 20 5 to 10 year old kids? Oh, I forgot, gun rights first!
 
shipwrkd said:
If an armed citizen were within range of any of these shooters…the shootings would not have been “mass”. You do what you want, I’ll be packing. Gun control is using BOTH hands…
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👍

It’s amazing how these poor libs believe that a woman raped and lying dead in an alley is somehow morally superior to the woman that survived by killing her attacker,

Simply amazing

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Prodigal_Son1 said:
Anyone that desires no gun control changes and leave everyone to ‘fend for themselves’.
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Prodigal, what we would like to know is exactly WHAT gun control changes you are proposing.

Or are you seeking to change them simply to change them, with no thought as to what would be effective in combating the type of violence we saw today
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
Ironic coming from someone who repeatedly ignored my request to discuss the bible passage you provided as if it were in support of being ‘armed’.

Yes, I’ve seen the practical side of your solution at our local school. The school cop wasn’t fit for road duty, so he was assigned to the school. Now, what is the acceptable body count? Two cops at a school, covering how many entrances at once? Gunman comes in the far side of school, how many rounds could he get off with two automatic pistols before they reach him?
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Why do you hate police officers?
 
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