Consecrated virgins - why only females?

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jfz178 said:
It is a job. It has a title and a salary. It is also an employment opportunity. It may be other things also, but it is that. I am an HR professional and I could show you the law. It is only because religiious institutions are exempt that it is not a problem.
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Is being a Deacon a job too? It has a title, but no salary. It’s totally volunteer. What about the Bishop? Bishops typically don’t make a higher “salary” more money then their priests. If being a priest is a “job” shouldn’t you make more money has your climb up the ladder?

What about priests who are part of Religious Orders? They do NOT receive a salary. Only Diocesan priests receive a “salary” because they don’t live in community and need money to do things.

Being a priest is as much of a “career” as being a deacon, or as much of a “career” as being a parent is.

It’s a vocation, not an occupation.

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Got some news for you, the Catholic religion is all about rules laws, obedience, submission.

Its not a democracy, it never was.

Women will never be Priests, men will never be nuns or consecrated virgins.

Both genders can be consecrated hermits.
 
Roseeurekacross said:
and you would be wrong in your assessment that its discrimination.
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Lol a job only open to men, but not sexual discrimination. I love it! How ridiculous. It’s the definition of discrimination.
 
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Except one of those roles can get promoted to run parishes, dioceses and even The Church and that role is only open to men.

See it’s not so hard to understand.
 
jfz178 said:
Except one of those roles can get promoted to run parishes, dioceses and even The Church and that role is only open to men.

See it’s not so hard to understand.
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Very true. I agree with you.
 
And men, apparently, can’t be virgins. That really does take a load off my mind! 😂
 
wkj_123 said:
Equal opportunity.

See it’s not so hard to understand.
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Men and women are equal in dignity, but they are not the same. Saying women should be priests, while it may have good intentions behind it, is like saying men should be able to be pregnant, since equal opportunity.
 
jfz178 said:
Because it’s none of your darn business unless I choose to make it your business. However, facts are facts.
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You’re very free with your opinions to suddenly turn so reticent. 😉

The facts are, we’re all members of the Priesthood of the Laity, regardless of gender.

But until you’re able to have a conversation about the facts of what makes the Ordained Priesthood different from the Priesthood of the Laity, it’s all just bluster on an internet forum with internet peeps.
 
Fauken said:
Men and women are equal in dignity, but they are not the same. Saying women should be priests, while it may have good intentions behind it, is like saying men should be able to be pregnant, since equal opportunity
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It’s not the same. Being a priest is a job. It receives a salary. It has benefits. Women are not allowed to hold that job. That is discrimination on the basis of sex. If a woman wants to be a priest, the church sees that she is a woman, and on that basis says no. That is sexual descrimination. It doesn’t matter if God is the one doing the discriminating, it’s still discrimination.
 
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Being a consecrated virgin, hermit, nun, monk, deacon, priest or bishop is a calling from God to a state of life. Being married and therefor a mother or father is also a state of life. This is different to what you do to support yourself financially, job.
 
Why did you decide to introduce very modern labor law in a discussion about 100-500 AD?

Are you aware slavery was commonplace at that time? You are still more than 1500 years away from the idea of an employee as defined today.
 
Fauken said:
Civil law can call it what it wants. It has no bearing on what it actually is.
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Your not making sense. A priest is a man who gets up in the morning and performs work for the church. The church pays him a salary for the work he performs. It’s a job. You can call it a super important, even the most important job in the world if you feel so inclined, but it’s a job.
 
But we’re getting back into the point that’s being tap-danced around— what is a priest? What is the Eucharist?

A priest isn’t just a job, like being a plumber is a job. Or being a dad is a job. (Uncompensated!) Or whatever. It’s a perpetual thing that changes your soul with an indelible mark— some people call it an ontological change.

How else do we get a soul changed with an indelible mark? Through baptism. Or confirmation.

Women, and most men, are able to get two of those marks. Only the third one is limited.

But if we can’t talk about souls, and we can’t talk about what the priest’s job is, and we can’t talk about the Eucharist— and we’re just talking about where someone’s paycheck comes from— then the conversation isn’t going to go anywhere.
 
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