Conservatives call on GOP leaders to step down

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JMJSHJ said:
Where the bleep were these leaders during Republican Primary? Perhaps these people should learn a lesson in civics. The delegates decide who the best candidate should be on the ticket and they need to understand that.
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During the primaries they were supporting people like Santorum or Gingrich, etc. The
GOP “elite” supported Romney from the get-go. Problem is with the early primary states
generally a lot more “moderate”, getting a candidate like Romney, was a given.
Now I fully supported Romney, but I would have been elated to have had the more pro-life
candidate like Santorum.
 
sedonaman said:
God sent his own chosen people into exile in Babylon for their disobedience. It has become abundantly clear to the most casual observer that the majority of voters like big secular government that gives them “freebies” [some of them immoral] paid for by other people. What message could possibly compete with that? The conservative message of rising on your own initiative is falling on deaf ears. Therefore, the Republican Party is through because it couldn’t defeat even the über liberals, and firing its leadership will not solve the problem because there is no message that can compete with the promise of a “free” lunch.

Perhaps its best course of action is for the long run by letting the Democrats have their way; and when society is finally in “exile” long enough, maybe then the voters will listen.
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Couldn’t have said it better myself. We voted, the majority got what they wanted. We now are going through the Chastisement. It may be the final one. I don’t see anyone turning back from the sanctioned moral hedonism that has gripped our country. Our abortion laws are the most liberal in the world. My cousin from France is visiting. She is pro-choice. She doesn’t believe me when I tell her PBA is legal in our country. She thinks I’m a tool of right-wing propaganda. Gay marriage is hugely controversial over there and not yet accepted.
 
Lapey said:
You know, this is where we all get it wrong, both sides. We look for victory instead of following Truth. If we stick to the Gospel message, all of it, we may shrink for a while, however, the Spirit of God will be with us and He will gain victory for us over evil.

Personally I do not care about standing up for what will win us an election, whether you rep or dem,** I care for standing up for what is real and true. ** One thing I have seen in ministry is if you truly believe what you preach, people will listen. If you truly believe what you preach and it is truth in Jesus Christ, people will listen and follow; even if they didn’t believe in what you preach, they will come to that belief and follow. Why is that you may ask, because Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life; not liberal or conservative, republican or democrat.
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This is exactly what our focus should be. People mock us for it. Dems say those who oppose abortion in cases of rape or incest are extremists. Yet if we make exception for these instances, we are labelled as illogical. if you believe the pre-born baby has 100% rights 100% percent of the time, you cannot make exceptions.
 
Richard320 said:
I’d like to see a party that I can actually fit into. One that appeals to working class, rather than the rich; one with my values about entitlements, abortion, gay rights, and gun control. Sadly, there isn’t one.
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Paul Ryan and John Boehner do that for me. Edit to ad Rick Santorum, who won the presidential primary in MO.
 
HansTrappist said:
WASHINGTON—Six conservative leaders blasted Mitt Romney as a “weak, moderate” candidate and called for Republican Party leaders to resign a day after Democrats dealt the GOP a sweeping defeat in the 2012 elections. Brent Bozell, founder of the Media Research Center, Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the pro-life Susan B. Anthony List, and Jenny Beth Martin, national coordinator for the Tea Party Patriots, were among the press conference speakers who laid “the epic election failure of 2012” at the feet of Republican elites. Republican National Chairman Reince Priebus, Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, and House Speaker John Boehner were all identified as individuals who “should be replaced with leaders more in tune with the conservative base of the Republican Party…"

worldmag.com/2012/11/conservatives_call_on_gop_leaders_to_step_down
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MORE in tune with the conservative base? How about a little LESS in tune with the conservative base and more open to some compromise with moderates and liberals?
 
TexCatholic4JMJ said:
During the primaries they were supporting people like Santorum or Gingrich, etc. The
GOP “elite” supported Romney from the get-go. Problem is with the early primary states
generally a lot more “moderate”, getting a candidate like Romney, was a given.
Now I fully supported Romney, but I would have been elated to have had the more pro-life
candidate like Santorum.
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Personally I think that the primaries should be nationwide the same day. I’m tired of not having a say because I live in a state who;s primary is so late in the season the nominee is already chosen by the time I get to vote.
 
I did a google search to try and get more information about this and found nothing except the article posted in the link. Never heard of that site before. No link to the video of the live press conference so we can’t watch ourselves and come to our own conclusions.
 
Cider said:
Personally I think that the primaries should be nationwide the same day. I’m tired of not having a say because I live in a state who;s primary is so late in the season the nominee is already chosen by the time I get to vote.
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That’s not a bad idea.
 
oldcelt said:
If nothing is done to address the fiscal cliff, the consequences will be severe. At this moment, President Obama holds most of the good cards, and this development only helps him. The Tea Party remains a relatively small component of the GOP majority, but they hold a disproportionate amount of power. Boehner, in particular, will have to stand up to them or risk a major backlash.

John
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We wouldn’t be at this fiscal cliff right now ( might have come later) if Obama hadn’t added 6 trillion dollars to the deficit. In 2004 he blasted Bush for his debt toll and then went on to be even worse in less time. He has no credibility as far as reducing the debt.

Additionally he wasted his first two years where the Dems controlled all 3 branches and did not one thing about the budget or the debt. Even his own party voted it down. Still no budget in over 3 years.

No credibility at all
 
TexCatholic4JMJ said:
During the primaries they were supporting people like Santorum or Gingrich, etc. The
GOP “elite” supported Romney from the get-go. Problem is with the early primary states
generally a lot more “moderate”, getting a candidate like Romney, was a given.
Now I fully supported Romney, but I would have been elated to have had the more pro-life
candidate like Santorum.
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This ^^^^^^^^^^^^ My vote went to Santorum in the primary. He is not afraid of the media and he speaks truth in Church teaching. The republican establishment killed his chances and we got Romney spoon fed to us.
 
Lapey said:
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^ My vote went to Santorum in the primary. He is not afraid of the media and he speaks truth in Church teaching. The republican establishment killed his chances and we got Romney spoon fed to us.
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I wanted to vote for Santorum in the primary. Sadly he had dropped out by the time I was able to cast my ballot. Very disappointing.
 
meltzerboy said:
MORE in tune with the conservative base? How about a little LESS in tune with the conservative base and more open to some compromise with moderates and liberals?
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What profit is there that I gain the world and lose my soul…compromise my values I will not. The gate is narrow, and few are those who go through it.
 
Lapey said:
If they stick up for principle in truth, they will do what is right, even though they lose leadership. Raising taxes, even just on the wealthy, is not the answer and they know that. If the president gives in to the class warfare extreme left, then why should the tea party conservatives give in?

I do not see any higher level of civility coming out of Washington, there is no reason for either side to give in.
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Exactly.Obama is the one who refused to trim any fat in terms of the entitlements.That was all the republicans asked for in return for his request to raise taxes,We will be in gridlock for another four years,because Obama will not give up any of his entitlements.Yet it will be the republicans who will be pegged as uncooperative,so really just the same ole’ same ole’😦
 
Lapey said:
What profit is there that I gain the world and lose my soul…compromise my values I will not. The gate is narrow, and few are those who go through it.
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No one is suggesting you threaten your soul. These are economic issues.

John
 
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