Controversy erupts over Campus Republicans bake sale plans

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ringil said:
And present injustices in the form of ethnically biased standardized testing and the underfunding of inner-city schools, plus a broken educational system where children from high tax sub-burbs have quality schools compared to the abyssmal state on inner-city education.

Inequality in American education is the modern Civil Rights issue with minorities on the short end of the stick- as usual.
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The solution to that is to allow freedom of choice in education, rather than forcing parents to send students to particular schools regardless of quality. Attach education dollars to students, not school districts. That gives parents the power to choose.
 
Two things surprise me about this bake sale:
  1. There is a UC Berkeley College Republican Club.
  2. No discount was offered to the LGBT community.
 
JimG said:
Two things surprise me about this bake sale:
  1. There is a UC Berkeley College Republican Club.
  2. No discount was offered to the LGBT community.
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Someone will sue. It’ll get fixed.

They will pass the EATC into law and this sort of sex orientation discrimination in baked goods will be a thing of the past.
 
JimG said:
The solution to that is to allow freedom of choice in education, rather than forcing parents to send students to particular schools regardless of quality. Attach education dollars to students, not school districts. That gives parents the power to choose.
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To be honest I have thought of this issue but have not decided my views on it.

I will need to do some research from non- right wing sources though. 🙂

One thing that could be a terrible by-product of such a system would be an explosion of educationally un-sound, and potentially odd-ball institutions.

But I don’t want to derail this thread.

I wonder how many African American students will be out there with there selling these baked goods. The fellow I saw on CNN defending this absurdity certainly was lily white.
 
JimG said:
Two things surprise me about this bake sale:
  1. There is a UC Berkeley College Republican Club.
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Surprises me too. I wonder if the anti-youth vote conservatives like John Stossel will discourage them from voting?
  1. No discount was offered to the LGBT community.
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Hmmmm, that is surprising.
 
ringil said:
To be honest I have thought of this issue but have not decided my views on it.

I will need to do some research from non- right wing sources though. 🙂

One thing that could be a terrible by-product of such a system would be an explosion of educationally un-sound, and potentially odd-ball institutions.

But I don’t want to derail this thread.

I wonder how many African American students will be out theire with there baked goods. The fellow I saw on CNN defending this absurdity certainly was lily white.
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You mean, educationally unsound institutions like so many of our public schools?

I doubt that you will find an unbiased source on the state of public education, because everybody’s got an interest in the game. But you might start with a biased, but I would say, accurate account of the current state of affairs here: youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4pN-aiofw
 
ringil said:
And present injustices in the form of ethnically biased standardized testing and the underfunding of inner-city schools, plus a broken educational system where children from high tax sub-burbs have quality schools compared to the abyssmal state on inner-city education.

Inequality in American education is the modern Civil Rights issue with minorities on the short end of the stick- as usual.
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The biggest obstacle to lifting people out of poverty is that in our inner cities a majority of children are denied their basic human right to a stable, loving, two parent family. This basic right is denied them not by an oppressive majority or foreign power, but by their own flesh and blood, who have the highest duty to care for their children.

In last week’s report on US poverty, hardly anyone noticed that the poverty rate for a family headed by a single woman is FIVE TIMES the rate for a family headed by a married couple. The situation is even worse than that headline number because the government figures only consider income and ignore the very real fact that single parent families have higher expenses for day care and medical care, as well as other costs that would not be incurred with a more efficient division of labor that is possible in a stable two parent family.
 
Gift_from_God said:
Wow, how compelling :rolleyes:
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So when you graduate school and are offered a job you will be sure and ask the person doing the hiring if there are any minorities in line and refuse the job if so?

I think if every liberal would promise to quit their job if a minority applied for it to be fair then that would go a long way to solving this inequality they hate so much.
 
JimG said:
Two things surprise me about this bake sale:
  1. There is a UC Berkeley College Republican Club.
  2. No discount was offered to the LGBT community.
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I. They probably lied to ge admitted, or maybe they changed their minds after seeing the kind of nonsense that goes on at Berkeley.
  1. Why would the majority get a discount? This is Berkeley. :rolleyes:
 
Trader said:
I. They probably lied to ge admitted, or maybe they changed their minds after seeing the kind of nonsense that goes on at Berkeley.
  1. Why would the majority get a discount? This is Berkeley. :rolleyes:
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I go to a VERY liberal university where my previous employment on my application was a catholic church. I got rejected twice until I finally had a meeting with the department chair. They openly admitted that they didn’t think a catholic would fit in at their school. When I questioned how it was legal to consider religion in an admissions decision, suddenly I found myself enrolled.

Go figure. :rolleyes:
 
estesbob said:
It’s is quite simple. You support racial discrimination Scott and I don’t
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When it is done against anyone but us white folk, its discrimination. When its done against us white folk, its justice. 🤷
 
NonServiam said:
I think you’re missing the point. There are inequities in the system. There is social policy in place that takes those inequalities into consideration for purposes of college admission.

That is all. Whether you or anyone else thinks it’s “hypocritical” – which it’s not – has absolutely no bearing on the facts.
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Where are the inequalities in the admissions requirements if they are applied the same to everyone?

The social issues that are cited by others here are not race specific (ie. Inner-city, poverty levels, exc). Caucasian children in an impoverish area with bad schools don’t get that same consideration – based solely on the color of their skin. This is not about leveling the playing field it about leveling it for a select group – that’s where the issue is. If a school had a white recruiting incentive it would be racism – if it is a minority incentive it is affirmative action.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
When it is done against anyone but us white folk, its discrimination. When its done against us white folk, its justice. 🤷
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You got it! The whites have held the whip hand for so long and now come crying and whining about why it’s oh, so wrong, so very wrong to show any effort at redress or to make any corrective balance in opportunities towards minorities. Yeah, sure. 🤷
 
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