Controversy erupts over Campus Republicans bake sale plans

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SamH said:
Usually that means it’s all about the money.

I guess you didn’t read SB 185.
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Ohhh, its ALL about the money.

If you offered an equal opportunity to get a quality education and a career or a cash payout, take a guess what will be chosen.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Holding the whip hand means having the advantage or having the upper hand.

Lord, teach these fine folk what a dictionary is.
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Agreed, when you hold the whip you have the advantage, unless you meet someone with a knife or gun.
 
NonServiam said:
The argument is not that there are inequalities in the admissions requirements – the argument is that inequalities exist in terms of the educational background afforded to minorities.
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:confused:

Can you point out the minority-only schools they are coming from? I know there are some terrible, inner-city public schools that have a larger minority population. What happens to the white kids in these schools? Were they afforded a better educational background, even though they were in the same school? Of course not. How do they get a leg up, or do you believe they automatically have one because of their skin color?
 
NonServiam said:
Now, as you go on to note, these issues aren’t always race specific, but in practice, they frequently are race specific, to the point that minorities, in general, don’t have the same opportunities that whites do, in general. Obviously, that’s not going to apply to every case, but it applies to so many cases that we can say we want social policy to address it.
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So it’s about sponsoring equal outcomes, not offering equal opportunities.
 
Nec5 said:
Was there an additional discount for cupcakes made without emissions?
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Yes, no bake, organic, gluten free, lactose free, egg free, sugar free brownies made by a transexual lesbian Wiccan veteran with one eye and one leg named Lucky.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Yes, no bake, organic, gluten free, lactose free, egg free, sugar free brownies made by a transexual lesbian Wiccan veteran with one eye and one leg named Lucky.
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That person deserves a free cupcake. They suffer an injustice every day they wake up.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Yes, no bake, organic, gluten free, lactose free, egg free, sugar free brownies made by a transexual lesbian Wiccan veteran with one eye and one leg named Lucky.
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Great. I think all the bases are covered. If not, Berkeley is without a doubt the place to be find those left out.
 
rlg94086 said:
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Can you point out the minority-only schools they are coming from? I know there are some terrible, inner-city public schools that have a larger minority population. What happens to the white kids in these schools? Were they afforded a better educational background, even though they were in the same school? Of course not. How do they get a leg up, or do you believe they automatically have one because of their skin color?
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I wonder if I applied to Howard University I could get preferred admission?
 
SamH said:
That person deserves a free cupcake. They suffer an injustice every day they wake up.
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no bake, organic, gluten free, lactose free, egg free, sugar free brownies

Do you really think anyone should charge money for that?
 
Racism is racism no matter how you try to defend it with past injustices.
 
rlg94086 said:
I know there are some terrible, inner-city public schools that have a larger minority population. What happens to the white kids in these schools? Were they afforded a better educational background, even though they were in the same school? Of course not. How do they get a leg up, or do you believe they automatically have one because of their skin color?
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I thought I addressed this objection in my last post, but just for you, I’ll paste it below:

“One policy solution is that college admissions should take into account these discrepencies of opportunity when evaluating applications. Is this going to result in some cases where a poor white kid gets the short end of the stick while a middle class black kid gets a big advantage? Sure. There are always going to be a handful of situations like that and abuses and other things that people generally don’t like. But overall – and this is, after all, a big picture policy – overall, it will make the tremendous unfairness of the system that currently exists a little, teensy bit more fair.”

Did you have anything substantive to say to dispute this point?
 
NonServiam said:
. There are always going to be a handful of situations like that and abuses and other things that people generally don’t like. But overall – and this is, after all, a big picture policy – overall, it will make the tremendous unfairness of the system that currently exists a little, teensy bit more fair."

Did you have anything substantive to say to dispute this point?
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Let’s start with some support for this point before it needs to be disputed.
 
NonServiam said:
I thought I addressed this objection in my last post, but just for you, I’ll paste it below:

“One policy solution is that college admissions should take into account these discrepencies of opportunity when evaluating applications. Is this going to result in some cases where a poor white kid gets the short end of the stick while a** middle class black kid **gets a big advantage? Sure. There are always going to be a handful of situations like that and abuses and other things that people generally don’t like. But overall – and this is, after all, a big picture policy – overall, it will make the tremendous unfairness of the system that currently exists a little, teensy bit more fair.”

Did you have anything substantive to say to dispute this point?
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Sure. Your idea of fairness is racist. I was talking about poor kids being of any race. Separating out one race over another is racist. It would be much more equitable to set up a way to give a leg up to kids based on economic/regional background. That would make more sense.
 
SamH said:
Let’s start with some support for this point before it needs to be disputed.
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Liberals take two underprivileged kids, one white and one black, and say “we should help the black kid.” That is what they call “fair.” 🤷
 
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