Could Mary be getting a new title this year? [CNA]

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http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/i...Credit_jannoon028_Shutterstock_CNA.jpgDetroit, Mich., Jan 29, 2017 / 03:04 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Earlier this month, the International Marian Association submitted a request to Pope Francis, asking for the public recognition of the title of Mary as “Co-Redemptrix with Jesus the Redeemer.”

The 10 page document was submitted by the Theological Commission of the International Marian Association, a group of more than 100 theologians, bishops, priests, religious, and lay leaders from over 20 countries dedicated to the “full truth and love of Mary, Mother of Jesus.” It comes during the 100th year anniversary of the Marian apparitions at Fatima, Portugal.

The significance of the request, if it were to receive approval, is that the faithful would be given further clarity on Mary’s unique role in cooperation with Christ in the work of redemption, Dr. Robert Fastiggi, Professor of Mariology at Sacred Heart Seminary in Detroit, told EWTN News.

“I think many people sense the spread of evil in the world and see the importance of highlighting Mary’s role as spiritual Mother,” Dr. Fastiggi said in e-mail comments.

“A papal statement on Marian coredemption would deepen our understanding of Mary’s role as the New Eve who collaborates with her Son, the New Adam, ‘in giving back supernatural life to souls,’” he added, referring to the Vatican II document Lumen Gentium.

The title can be traced back to the 10th century, when some Marian litanies included the title of Mary as Redemptrix, along with her son. It was a development of the idea of Mary as the “New Eve,” a Marian title that has been used since the 2nd century. The prefix of “co-” was added by the 15th century, to clarify that Mary was not the Redeemer, but rather someone who uniquely cooperated in the work of redemption.

“The Co-Redemptrix title never places Mary on a level of equality with Jesus Christ, the only divine Redeemer, as to do so would constitute both heresy and blasphemy,” the Association stated in a press release announcing the request.

“The Co-Redemptrix title is meaningless without Jesus the Redeemer, and in itself focuses upon the Cross of Jesus Christ. Mary Co-Redemptrix proclaims to the world that suffering is redemptive when united to the sufferings of Christ.”

After the prefix was added, title continued to catch on, so much so that the 17th century considered the “golden age” of the title of Mary as Co-Redemptrix. Still, it didn’t receive magisterial recognition until 1908, when the Sacred Congregation for Rites used it in a decree elevating the rank of the Feast of the Seven Sorrows of Mary.

Since then, it has been referenced multiple times by the Magisterium, including during the second Vatican council, which ultimately decided against any formal recognition of the title in the document Lumen Gentium.

“The term, however was not rejected because it was false. In the praenotanda or explanatory note that accompanied the first Marian schema of 1962, we are told that, ‘Certain terms and expressions used by Roman Pontiffs have been omitted, which, although most true in themselves (in se verissima), may be difficult for the separated brethren (as in the case of the Protestants) to understand,’” Dr. Fastiggi explained.

“The Council, therefore, recognized the importance of further development and clarification on certain points of Marian doctrine. A papal statement on Marian co-redemption would provide greater clarity on Mary’s unique cooperation with Christ in the work of redemption and the mediation of grace. It would also open the way for many graces in the life of the Church.”

Popes often grant formal papal recognition to help deepen the theological understanding of the faithful, such as when Bl. Pope Paul VI proclaimed Mary as “Mother of the Church” in 1964.

“The invocation of Mary under various titles like ‘Mother of God’ and ‘Help of Christians’ reinforces Mary’s role in the mystery of salvation,” Dr. Fastiggi noted.

Unfortunately, Dr. Fastiggi said, many Catholics are unaware of the recognition that the title “Co-Redemptrix” has already received so much informal recognition from the magisterium.

“Some are even under the impression that we are not allowed to call Mary ‘Co-Redemptrix’—even though two popes, namely Pius XI (3 times) and St. John Paul II (at least 6 times), have publicly referred to Mary as ‘Co-Redemptrix,’” he said.

And while there are concerns that the title could further confuse Protestants and others who disagree with Catholic teaching on Mary, Dr. Fastiggi believes a formal recognition of the title would actually help with further clarification.

“A formal papal statement would also serve the cause of ecumenism because it would help other Christians know that the Catholic Church clearly distinguishes between the saving work of Christ as the one Savior and Mediator (1 Tim 2: 5–6) and the Blessed Mother’s secondary, dependent but utterly unique cooperation with Christ in the work of redemption and the mediation of grace,” he said.

In a press release announcing the request, the International Marian Association said: “We believe that a public acknowledgement of Mary’s true and continuous role with Jesus in the saving work of Redemption would justly celebrate the role of humanity in God’s saving plan; foster greater devotion to the Mother of God; and lead to the release of historic graces through an even more powerful exercise of Our Lady’s maternal roles of intercession for the Church and for all humanity today.”

While the request could lead to a new Marian dogma, Dr. Fastiggi said the Association would likely be happy with any form of formal papal recognition of the title.

“The members of Association realize that it’s up to the Holy Spirit to guide the Holy Father with regard to this petition. In this regard, prayer and trust are essential,” he said.

“We trust in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Father, and the prayers of the Blessed Virgin Mary, who is our spiritual Mother. May God’s will be done.”

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I am torn, I love our mother, and I want this title for her, but would this not alienate our Protestant brothers and sisters and provide more trouble for them coming back to the Catholic Church?

Of course I would never make a decision based on if it was a hard path or an easy path, but the question remains.

Ultimately I leave it up to God to decide, He knows what’s best. I follow whatever His Church decides, I hope that the answer is yes!!!
 
I am torn, I love our mother, and I want this title for her, but would this not alienate our Protestant brothers and sisters and provide more trouble for them coming back to the Catholic Church?

Of course I would never make a decision based on if it was a hard path or an easy path, but the question remains.

Ultimately I leave it up to God to decide, He knows what’s best. I follow whatever His Church decides, I hope that the answer is yes!!!
I completely understand. On the other hand, I wonder if this would appease feminists on some level. I doubt it, but interesting to think about. I am so thankful as a woman that we have Mary and all the women saints. I’ve never felt left out precisely because of that. God is wise. But it only makes sense that if man and woman brought about the fall, God would find a way to incorporate man and woman in humankind’s redemption.
 
Scripture teaches that we are all called to be co-redeemers. This applies most perfectly to Our Lady.
 
If Protestants can accept the title of “Mother of God”, that would be a thrilling first step. We still need for them to process the Immaculate Conception, Perpetual Virginity, Assumption, and Motherhood of humanity also…
 
This come up every couple years. The Church has repeatedly said no. Search the forum for co-redemptrix and you will find many pages of discussion as to why.
 
Um, where?
Well, it isn’t stated explicitly, but there is scriptural support for the title when we consider that we are to reign with Christ:

2Tim.2[12] if we endure, we shall also reign with him;
if we deny him, he also will deny us;

Rev.5[10] and hast made them a kingdom and priests to our God,
and they shall reign on earth."

And that we are co-workers with Christ and in Christ:

1Cor.3[9] For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.

Surely, these verses apply to Mary. Indeed, she embodies these verses since she was the first to believe, the first to do God’s will in the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Still, such a title could be confusing to many, and the commissions that have looked into the title of co-redeemer have concluded that such a title isn’t necessary. I don’t know if it is or not–that’s above my pay grade. But, the title would not go against either Scripture nor Sacred Tradition of which Scripture is a vital part. 🙂
 
I am torn, I love our mother, and I want this title for her, but would this not alienate our Protestant brothers and sisters and provide more trouble for them coming back to the Catholic Church?

Of course I would never make a decision based on if it was a hard path or an easy path, but the question remains.

Ultimately I leave it up to God to decide, He knows what’s best. I follow whatever His Church decides, I hope that the answer is yes!!!
+1

I can just hear my father-in-law now 😦
 
Um, where?
This is the most explicit verse Col 1:24:
Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church

St. Paul united his sufferings to the cross and thus participated in the Lord’s work of redemption. This is basic Catholic doctrine. Haven’t you heard Catholic mothers everywhere telling their whining children to “offer it up”? We can’t truly add to the work of Christ, for His merits are infinite, but we “put on Christ” (Gal 3:27) in baptism and are called to share in His work…through His grace our sufferings are united to the cross and mediate His plan of redemption to others.
 
This is the most explicit verse Col 1:24:
Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church

St. Paul united his sufferings to the cross and thus participated in the Lord’s work of redemption. This is basic Catholic doctrine. Haven’t you heard Catholic mothers everywhere telling their whining children to “offer it up”? We can’t truly add to the work of Christ, for His merits are infinite, but we “put on Christ” (Gal 3:27) in baptism and are called to share in His work…through His grace our sufferings are united to the cross and mediate His plan of redemption to others.
So be this logic St Paul deserves the title co-redemtrix. I don’t think anyone would or could object to the fact that every person has an obligation to ‘put on Christ’.
 
Well, it isn’t stated explicitly…

But, the title would not go against either Scripture nor Sacred Tradition of which Scripture is a vital part. 🙂
You’re correct, it is not stated in scripture OR in tradition.

Just because something doesn’t go against scripture or tradition, does not make it so. By that logic we could speculate on Mary’s favorite food and declare it. Seems like nonsense to me
 
Please no…
Totally agree. One more title on top of - what, 30 or 40 ? - does her no more honor, and would result in confusion and misunderstanding. A title which would require 3 or 4 pages of theology to explain does not seem like a good idea. And as I recall, Pope Benedict was not in favor of it.
 
This is the most explicit verse Col 1:24:
Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church

St. Paul united his sufferings to the cross and thus participated in the Lord’s work of redemption. This is basic Catholic doctrine. Haven’t you heard Catholic mothers everywhere telling their whining children to “offer it up”? We can’t truly add to the work of Christ, for His merits are infinite, but we “put on Christ” (Gal 3:27) in baptism and are called to share in His work…through His grace our sufferings are united to the cross and mediate His plan of redemption to others.
So we redeem ourselves?🤷
 
So we redeem ourselves?🤷
Not quite. It is Christ who redeems us. It is Christ who saves us. He made it possible through His incarnation, death and resurrection. But through the sacraments, starting with baptism, we partake of His very nature and become more like Him. He gives us the grace to cooperate in our own salvation…to participate. He gives us the tools, but we get to use them.
John 1:12: *But as many as received him, he gave them power to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in his name.
*. He gives us the power to become like Him.
 
Totally agree. One more title on top of - what, 30 or 40 ? - does her no more honor, and would result in confusion and misunderstanding. A title which would require 3 or 4 pages of theology to explain does not seem like a good idea. And as I recall, Pope Benedict was not in favor of it.
But all the titles are unique and reminders of her role throughout human history 🙂

But yes, many Protestants will likely throw a fit…
 
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