Courtship and twenty-something Catholics

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It has nothing to do with influence. You have to bring the idea to someone. If you want it, offer to create it and run it. Don’t wait for someone else and complain there is nothing available.
 
I am no good at running stuff. @Irishmom2
 
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The over-education of young people further takes them away from responsibilities of nature, ie making families and homes, and into the analytical and scientific, which ends us being the materialism of the will of the “student”. This is the modern social crisis.
 
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Stop, stop, STOP! Do NOT compare yourself to others in your peer group - I heard a great sermon about how the devil likes it when we compare ourselves to others, particularly when we do so unfavorably, since it makes us despair.

Run your own race!
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My spiritual director was very adamant when he told me to never compare myself to others.

It would lead to either envy or pride, both deadly sins. Either way not good.

I took his advice.
 
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Lol I disagree. I don’t think there is such a thing as over-education. I think there degrees which are non-sense and are just flat out lies in university. But I am an analytical person and want to provide for my family with a well paying job which is why I am becoming a software engineer (hopefully in machine learning).
 
Start small.

Invite two or three of those you know for a weekly prayer or bible study and a social hour afterwards. Your friends are free to invite more people from their network.

In time this event will grow.
 
Right now you are theoretically providing for your future family based on analytical thinking. I know a lot of unmarried men in the computer engineering field. God’s plan isn’t analytical so if you want to find out what God wants for you that would require prayer. I find many catholics today don’t care too much about having a catholic spouse so maybe you are one but you don’t seem serious about wanting to start a family in general and are using intellect to create a barrier. If a virtuous woman joined your parish and started a rosary group you’re telling me you wouldn’t even look at her because you need to gain material and social standing and that seems juxtaposed to what I originally posted which involves faith before the world.
 
Do you know any faithful Catholics in your university or in general?

It doesn’t have to be your own age group. They may know others in your age group.

It’s called networking.

I am not the most social of persons and I am an extreme introvert but I have had to force myself to go out there. It may be outside your comfort zone but if you really want it, force yourself. It’s how you grow.
 
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I am always open if I meet the right woman but I really am not seeking out a relationship. You are also making a lot of uncharitable assumptions about me. For one, I want a Catholic spouse. My faith is the most important aspect of my life and I want a spouse who thinks the same and shares the same values as me. Also, I do want a family and a large one if possible.
 
I was charitable when I said MAYBE. Your previous messages gave the false impression that you were complacent towards marrying which honestly seems to come from lack of faith in God’s plan for your life, considering you yourself stated that you had “given up” and are analytical. You stated that, not me. You can’t be willing to give up on God and His plan for your life which may or may not involve a virtuous woman and a family and accept that as faithful behavior. It will not just materialize out of thin air. Have you been praying for your vocation? There are prayers for the faithful about discerning our spouse and God’s plan. Also being actively involved in a parish where you feel at home is a good step to make for life in general.
 
No. None of the catholic friends I have are married under 27. I graduated HS in 2013. Many of my protestant and non believer friends have married and had children though. The only catholics I know above 30 are well above over 30 and are either married or widowed or single because they focused on their career and life passed them by. That trend seemed to really take off in the 80s with it increasing after a short drop in the 90s.
 
I’m not sure what is wrong with my statement, which has been researched and supported by decades of scientific studies. The more education one acquires the less likey to start a family. This varies to different degrees based on the type of education and lifestyle etc., but this is not a personal statement or opinion. Irishmom and I were talking about age and it’s correlation to marriage and I simply provided an explanation of the correlation between education and marriage which is very real. I also was not implying anything about the validity of the logic of analytical thinking but simply expressing that communication with God is not analytical but supernatural therefore involving prayer to intermediate. These are basic catholic principles. You either believe in praying for your spouse or you have a different interpretation of the sacrament of marriage.
 
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Well that could be true. But as someone who already knows the who and why behind the crises of the church I have already accepted that it doesn’t help to continue to ferment among the spiritually weak and purposefully misleading. The thread was intended for catholics who are not of that ilk. Catholic education was recognized as a powerful tool of Americanization back in the 1920s, which is why today more non catholics attend these schools than the faithful along with the fact that most parishes are divorced or deprived from parish communities that physically live around them. As an adult the failures of my elder leaders as a child are of minuscule importance to my spiritual formation.
 
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