Covid19 vaccine, will we know how it's made

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I did not begin thinking about it till now. I dont know much about those others yet. I wouldnt be suprized, while i wasnt paying attention they vaccine industry took off, I didnt know tilll recently that president reagen made something called The Vaccine Injury Law while also passing a law that drug companys could not be sued for injurys from vaccines and set up money for the government to pay people whose children are injured by vaccines of course if it can be proven. Its really so big, anything is possible.
 
Beryllos said:
SARS was
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Was, CDC says SARS infected 8098 with 774 deaths.

Covid19 is at 14,000,000 with 60,000 deaths
3 million of which is in the US alone.

You aren’t comparing apples to oranges, it’s apples to New York time square.
 
No. I was responding to @mary77’s claim that “This particular virus prompts the immunesystem too harshly.”

So the comparison was not the number of infections or deaths. The comparison is the severity of illness.

COVID-19 in most cases is a mild illness. It kills less than 1%. SARS killed about 10%, and Ebola kills about 50%. (ballpark figures here)

If someone made a bioweapon, COVID-19 is not it.

The world is very fortunate that this pandemic is so mild. If a virus as deadly as SARS or Ebola ever goes pandemic, the death toll will be staggering, the economy will crash, and we sure as hell won’t be arguing about face masks.
 
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Is anyone else concerned about the potential of a Covid vaccine being or leading to the mark of the beast? I don’t think vaccine alone can be but if it’s administered by the Quantum dot tattoo method or any kind of RFID chip I think I’d stay far away.
 
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Of course it could have been written more clearly, but that’s okay, we can figure out that the 3 million (today 3.8 million) is the confirmed cases in the US.
 
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mary77 said:
I am a lot more skeptical then you about the origin of this virus. This particular virus prompts the immunesystem too harshly. They have been experimenting in Immune response prompting for many years and I would even say this virus acts like a vaccine gone wrong or not finished or something that was being created for some kind of biowarfare.
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The top scientists around the world that have analysed the virus and said it is NOT man made is something you as a complete and total amateur do not believe. Incredible!!
 
Just a footnote on some of the commentary about the mortality rate. I do think it is safe to say at the moment the mortality is around 1%. Unfortunately around 5% require care in the ICU. If emergency / hospital / ICU’s become overwhelmed then that will jump up the mortality rate quite a bit.

We are already seeing this in India and other parts of Asia not to mention South Africa, Central and South America. 2 to 3% of 7 Billion people. That is pretty catastrophic.
 
I was checking into some things unrelated to your thread, but came across some information that may help your individual decisions. It comes from the Charlotte Lozier Institute, a research agency which promotes life. The article lists their view of ethical and unethical covid vaccines under development in view of use of “electively aborted human fetuses.” The link is:


The link for the Institute itself is:

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Lozier Institute - Science & Statistics for life

Charlotte Lozier Institute is America’s #1 source for science, data, and medical research on the value of human life. Learn more...
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Im only an RN and I only know that the phrase " top scientist" does not mean they are not actually invested in dna research etc.
 
rituxan is an immunology medication that is used to combat tumors for cancer patients and also saved my husbands life when he had the autoimmune disease pemphigus vulgaris. It destroys enough b cells in the immune system to make it reset itself. This is what they do in vaccines, they nudge the immune system to go after the antigen. This virus is nudging the immune system harshly.
 
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Im only an RN and I only know that the phrase " top scientist" does not mean they are not actually invested in dna research etc.
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You are wrong. I believe the top scientists around the world and not you.
Also analysis of the virus by US scientists proved that the virus came to New York from Europe, not directly from China.
 
we have been watching the media report top scientists completely contradicting one another. They pointed that out to us in nursing school, nothing new.
 
mary77 said:
we have been watching the media report top scientists completely contradicting one another. They pointed that out to us in nursing school, nothing new.
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The virus is NOT man made. That has clearly been established. Even the Trump administration admitted that in the end although they stuck with the virus being accidentally released from a lab. If they agree it is not man made you don’t have a leg to stand on.
 
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Saskachub said:
Is anyone else concerned about the potential of a Covid vaccine being or leading to the mark of the beast? I don’t think vaccine alone can be but if it’s administered by the Quantum dot tattoo method or any kind of RFID chip I think I’d stay far away.
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Nope. There are enough real issues to worry about.
 
how come there is no vaccine for the HIV virus after approximatley 40 yrs, hmm? do you know the origin of the hiv virus? It doesnt matter, people dont want to know the truth.
 
mary77 said:
how come there is no vaccine for the HIV virus after approximatley 40 yrs, hmm?
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Why do we not have a vaccine for the “common cold” after however many years it has been since vaccines were first developed? Does our failure to produce one indicate any nefarious origin or other conspiracy? I think not, especially since we know why the likelihood of a general vaccine against all forms of rhinovirus is unlikely in the extreme.

Some contributing factors to our failure to produce an HIV vaccine:
1 - No one recovers naturally, so no model for natural immunity
2 - Frequent mutation. IOW, fast moving target.
3 - No reliable non-human animal model for HIV infection and immune system response. Animal models are very useful in researching most diseases as well as vaccine development.
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do you know the origin of the hiv virus?
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Me personally? No. Scientists who have been studying it for their entire professional careers? Probably. Do you?
mary77 said:
people dont want to know the truth
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Check my username and add a question mark. I do want the truth. But what I want is the truth, not fantasies with zero credible evidence.
 
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