Crucifixes

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My 12 year old daughter is selling crucifixes to raise money for camp.

I wasn’t sure if she should ask her nonCatholic friends and family to buy one. On one hand, I think it would be a nice way to share a Catholic tradition. And, on the other, I worried that it might upset people.

I’m not completely sure why nonCatholics are offended by the crucifix. :confused:
 
I don’t see any harm in asking. They can always so no. If a particular person is very touchy about such things, maybe you should avoid asking them, but for the average non-Catholic, I don’t think they would be offended, especially if it is a 12 year old girl doing the asking.

It is an excellent opportunity to evangelize!
 
leonie said:
My 12 year old daughter is selling crucifixes to raise money for camp.

I wasn’t sure if she should ask her nonCatholic friends and family to buy one. On one hand, I think it would be a nice way to share a Catholic tradition. And, on the other, I worried that it might upset people.

I’m not completely sure why nonCatholics are offended by the crucifix. :confused:
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hola leonie,

be careful… i cannot remember exactly but i think there is a prohibition about giving consecrated things to non believers especially if there is a potential that they do not treat these things reverently… maybe you could ask a priest first?

Dios te bendiga
 
I don’t believe she said they would be consecrated items. If I’m not mistaken, something is not consecrated unless specifically blessed by a priest.

~Liza
 
My aunt was Catholic. When she died they gave me her crucifix. That was 20 years ago, I still have it hanging on my wall.

I have an Orthodox icon “crucifix” hanging next to it which an Orthodox friend gave to me as I had been reading about St. Francis and was wondering what the “San Damino” (sp) looked like…he said it was similar…I now have a replica, hanging next to my aunt’s crucifix and the Orthodox one.

My tradition has not historically used crosses…in un-programmed Meetings there are no crosses or pictures or stained glass.

I have appreciated the imagery. It doesn’t hurt to ask.
 
leonie said:
I’m not completely sure why nonCatholics are offended by the crucifix. :confused:
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I could answer what I know, which may not be much 😃

But Ive heard it said that Catholics left Christ on the Cross
and Hes not there anymore. That why its offending.

There could be more probably Hollywood making things creepy doesnt help. But the first is the main reason I understand.

My personal understanding is that the crucifix is a reminder of Christ dieing on the Cross, I cant believe that Catholics think Hes still there. Am I right??
 
leonie said:
I’m not completely sure why nonCatholics are offended by the crucifix. :confused:
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Some non-Catholic Christians don’t believe Jesus was crucified on a cross, but rather just a pole. (This is based on ancient translation of a bible.) And they believe the cross is a satanic symbol (go figure) because the ancient roman warriors used it as their symbol for fighting.

And of course, the Catholic Church (being the whore of babylon) adapted this satanic symbol. (yeah, right)

It’s so sad that the symbol of the cross can be controversial.
 
Kitty_Chan said:
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But Ive heard it said that Catholics left Christ on the Cross
and Hes not there anymore. That why its offending.

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My personal understanding is that the crucifix is a reminder of Christ dieing on the Cross, I cant believe that Catholics think Hes still there. Am I right??
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Now they are upset because we leave Him in the manger in the creche.

Don’t believe He is still there either. 😃
 
well I guess nothing should surprise one.

btw am I right about the reminder??
 
The thread about how to present religious art in a way that’s acceptable or non-offensive to Protestants is similar. I’ll say this:

**No Christian, Protestant or Catholic should ever be offended by pictures of Mary or by a crucifix. **

These symbols are major, powerful symbols of Christianity. Whatever Christian has a problem with these needs…something. I don’t even know. :mad:
 
Charlie_Zeaiter said:
Some non-Catholic Christians don’t believe Jesus was crucified on a cross, but rather just a pole. (This is based on ancient translation of a bible.) And they believe the cross is a satanic symbol (go figure) because the ancient roman warriors used it as their symbol for fighting.

And of course, the Catholic Church (being the whore of babylon) adapted this satanic symbol.
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Which ones in particular? I have never heard this anywhere (and I’ve heard a lot of off the wall theories of this ilk).
 
KarenNC said:
Which ones in particular? I have never heard this anywhere (and I’ve heard a lot of off the wall theories of this ilk).
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The JW’s make a case by citing “stratos” means pole…not cross or “upright”.

They at one time published a picture of Jesus being crucified with his hands above his head on an upright “torture stake”.

Whether it was a “cross beam” or a “torture stake”…it shouldn’t matter…he was “crucified, buried and rose again on the third day according to the scriptures.”
 
KarenNC said:
Which ones in particular? I have never heard this anywhere (and I’ve heard a lot of off the wall theories of this ilk).
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The JW’s make a case by citing “stratos” means pole…not cross but “upright”.

They at one time published a picture of Jesus being crucified with his hands above his head on an upright “torture stake”.

Whether it was a “cross beam” or a “torture stake”…it shouldn’t matter…he was “crucified, buried and rose again on the third day according to the scriptures.”
 
Actually, when I associated with them, they used the greek word *stauros as “*torture stake”.
Also, they do not allow use of the word “crucified”, “crucifix” or “crucifixtion” by their followers because they claim “cruci” refers to a cross…:rolleyes:
 
Publisher said:
The JW’s make a case by citing “stratos” means pole…not cross or “upright”.

They at one time published a picture of Jesus being crucified with his hands above his head on an upright “torture stake”.

Whether it was a “cross beam” or a “torture stake”…it shouldn’t matter…he was “crucified, buried and rose again on the third day according to the scriptures.”
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Thanks. That would explain why I am not familiar with that teaching–I don’t know that much about JW’s. Saying that JW’s or Mormon’s teach something, though, is usually very different than saying “some non-Catholic Christians” do so, so I am curious as to whether this is the group that Charlie meant.

BTW, just fyi, it’s stauros rather than stratos, in case anyone else is looking for info–I think you may be confusing it with the Latin stratum, or layer, which gives us the prefix strato- as in stratosphere.
 
Publisher said:
The JW’s make a case by citing “stratos” means pole…not cross but “upright”.

They at one time published a picture of Jesus being crucified with his hands above his head on an upright “torture stake”.

Whether it was a “cross beam” or a “torture stake”…it shouldn’t matter…he was “crucified, buried and rose again on the third day according to the scriptures.”
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Yes it does matter…Christs Church said it happened on a cross.End of discusion.Because we were witnesses when it happened and have taught since that time it is a done deal.It AMAZES me when someone tries to interpret the Bible today to say what they think a word or phrase means,when HIS Church recieved the teachings directly from Jesus and his Apostles.The first book of the Bible wasnt written for almost 30 years after His death,but the Apostles were preaching and TEACHING shortly after his Resurection.
 
My dd was showing one of the crucifixes to a Catholic adult at our ecumenical homeschool group today. And, one of the Protestant girls asked to buy one. So, my dd sold it to her. I am curious as to what her Protestant mom thought of that.

Maybe I should stop tip toeing around this group. 🙂
 
We venerate the Crucifix because is illustrates the unfathomable love that our Lord has for us. That God Himself would take the form of sinful man and allow Himself to undergo the death of a criminal for our sake, is almost beyond comprehension. We need this constant reminder of His love for us. There is no Easter without Good Friday. An empty cross is just that, empty. Without the presence of the Man-God, it is only a pole with a crossbeam. I think that protestants are uncomfortable with the Crucifix because it is such a powerful, shattering symbol of this incomprehensible, pure Love.
 
Kitty_Chan said:
I could answer what I know, which may not be much 😃
But Ive heard it said that Catholics left Christ on the Cross and Hes not there anymore. That why its offending.
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Someone forgot to tell John and Paul that?

John once wrote: For God so loved the world he gave he only begotten son.

Paul proclaimed that “We preached Christ crucified” and claimed "I am crucified with Christ"

It’s only offending because it reminds them of how petty they are.
 
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