Whatever happens, donât lose the faith. We all will be judged one by one. That includes the Pope and everyone else.No, I am not too excited. On the good side, I do feel like I am pretty much done with trying to read the Pope Francis tea leaves though - the pattern is forming and the clarity breaking through.
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. No worries there. My faith is in good order. If it wasnât, I doubt Iâd bat an eye at any of thisâŚWell layman be judged for disparaging the successors of the Apostles or even of the Vicar of Christ?
I have seen nothing to indicate that he disagrees in anyway with Cardinal Burke or the Cardinal he is replacing .
No Bishop is going to disagree with doctrinal matter with another. Styles are different.
So where is the story here? I keep reading about how a âliberalâ Bishop is replacing a âconservativeâ Cardinal. I am afraid the MM is going to be disappointed when they realize the new Archbishop of Chicago is indeed Catholic.
I guess it depends on the outlet. Different outlets are going to spin whether they be a huufpo a crisis magazine a ahem⌠voris.
Well, if youâre going THERE, then perhaps we shouldnât pit one Pope against another, one bishop against another, etc. I see this frequently done or implied and other people simply react. (Traditionalist bishops, for example.) God simply didnât give most the makeup to like everyone they come into contact with. And no one is condemning anyone here, as far as I can tell.
Not to speak of banning a TLM Parish from any Latin Liturgies during the Triduum one year, and for a time banning Eucharistic Adoration across the Diocese. He is also in favor of ârevisingâ the Novus Ordo Mass, because he thinks Vat ll didnât go far enough, although he cannot do that, Rome has to. Time will tell.
I had read that the banning the TLM thing happened before Summorum Pontificum. Anyone know?
Well, itâs not entirely true that no one is condemning anyone. Read the vicious and baseless libels propagated against pro-lifers to justify His Excellencyâs decision to restrict official pro-life activity in his diocese. As usual, âcharityâ is only ever for the powerful; everyone else gets the boot to the throat.
Time will tell. The only way to know if media reportings are genuine or exaggerated, is when he will actually take over in Chicago and we see the fruits. Until then it is all speculation. Even if he has a progressive bent or if in the past he had one, Bishops can change. I live in this Diocese but I wonât make any call one way or the other until I see what he actually does. This doesnât mean that I will not call out irregularities in our Catholic faith, be it a Bishop, Cardinal or a Priest. It should be done charitably, but it should be done. In fact, I do believe we are REQUIRED to stand up for the true faith, no matter who it is with. But, we need to wait and see what he is actually like. Some people are jumping the gun before anything actually happens, especially in this Diocese, but people need to calm down and take a âwait and seeâ attitude. We may all be very pleasantly surprised.
Not true.
You would be too if youâve seen the declining Mass attendance numbers. Just sayinâŚ
It would be a shame if he does so in the future. Chicago has a generous supply of TLMâs and in fact they helped restore some of the parishes set to be closed. With the declining Mass attendance overall, I donât see what banning the TLM will accomplish.
See messages 72-73 earlier in this thread.
I guess we will probably know the truth of this prediction in the our own lives, at least some of us.
