Cyclone about to hit Queensland

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Since Christmas, Queensland has had massive flooding in Central Queensland and Southern Queensland, which has been possibly our most expensive natural disaster yet, as well as killing 30 or so people.

Now there is a massive cyclone bearing down on the northern coast of Queensland.

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theaustralian.com.au/evacuations-begin-ahead-of-the-arrival-of-the-powerful-cyclone-yasi/story-fn7rj0ye-1225997968847

Now I’m in two minds about this. During the first floods, particulary when Brisbane looked like going under I asked for prayers for two things - a reduced maximum height and better weather. We got both.

However a few days ago I wrote twice to the Premier here pointing out that I thought there was an element of judgement about it, specifically referring to abortion. This was before Yasi was on the radar so to speak. Oddly enough we now find this massive cyclone approaching, so massive it takes an hour for the eye to pass through.

Victoria for example passed draconian abortion laws in October 2008 and in January 2009 had their worst bushfires with well over 100 people killed. In my last letter I made the comment “God can be ******* ruthless”. I wrote to their premier a few days before their bushfires also, pointing out the same thing.

We kill about 100,000 of our own unborn children each year. On another forum here there is a debate about a couple who aborted twin boys because they wanted a girl. They’re in Victoria as far as I know. And Victoria has also had considerable flooding in their western region.

I’m aware that there are those who think God doesn’t use natural disasters as judgment. Tell that to the Egyptians in the Exodus, or the rebellious Israelites in the desert, or Jericho when the walls fell down, or Sodom and Gomorrah.

So I don’t know whether to ask for prayer or not. I think God intends to ram a lesson home. Whether we listen to it or not is up to us.

Comments anybody?
 
Loving God we commend to You all the people who are in the path of the cyclone and it’s effects, and we commend to You the people in the U.S. who face a severe winter storm to Your loving mery. We also commend to Your mercy the people of Egypt.

**Loving God we thank You for the wonderful community support that thousands of volunteers gave to their flooded fellow citizens and countrymen in the recent Queensland floods, and the support still generously being offered by fellow Australians here and in Victoria. **

In this widespread kindness and generosity we see Your goodness and love evident in each other. We praise and honor You for Your goodness in the good of every generous act and donation by Australians towards the recovery of our fellow Australians.

We hope to see Your love and goodness continuing to be evident as more of our fellow Australians suffer devastation from the worst cyclone to hit our northern east coast in recorded history.

Let Your mercy be on us as we place our trust in You
 
Most cyclones rapidly weaken as they head across land, but due to a heavy monsoonal flow this one could well remain cyclonic all the way from the coast to Mt. Isa. That is 900 km or 550 miles inland!

If the winds don’t destroy one’s property or threaten one’s life, the flooding might. As if Queensland hasn’t had enough flooding already.
 
Trishie said:
Loving God we commend to You all the people who are in the path of the cyclone and it’s effects, and we commend to You the people in the U.S. who face a severe winter storm to Your loving mercy. We also commend to Your mercy the people of Egypt.

**Loving God we thank You for the wonderful community support that thousands of volunteers gave to their flooded fellow citizens and countrymen in the recent Queensland floods, and the support still generously being offered by fellow Australians here and in Victoria. **

In this widespread kindness and generosity we see Your goodness and love evident in each other. We praise and honor You for Your goodness in the good of every generous act and donation by Australians towards the recovery of our fellow Australians.

We hope to see Your love and goodness continuing to be evident as more of our fellow Australians suffer devastation from the worst cyclone to hit our northern east coast in recorded history.

Let Your mercy be on us as we place our trust in You
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Thank you for this prayer and a great answer to this mystery of the active or passive Will of Almighty God and Father.
If these acts of nature are as a result of sins such as abortion;well God in His Goodness will bring His Divine Mercy through the Sacred Heart of Jesus into our hard hearts and be a means of purification.
If these are permitted through the natural process of an on going creation; which God has ordained since the beginning of time;then God’s Will be done.As your prayer indicated ,good has been brought out by the charity of the peoples involved.Naturally prayer has the means to redirect this cyclone to a less populated area and even to turn it into a harmless tropical depression.

Still in answer to the threads starter–Cardinal Sin(R.I.P) was asked this same question when a similar cyclone hit a populated area of Manilla–he was asked “Is this a punishment from God because of sin!” he replied “I do not know about that ;but maybe God is telling us something or giving us a message or warning?” (at least that was the crux of his reply from memory) Maybe the thread starter has the gift of seeing into the future–this would not be the first time that God gave persons a vision or (name removed by moderator)iration of what is to come.
 
karoleck said:
Maybe the thread starter has the gift of seeing into the future–this would not be the first time that God gave persons a vision or (name removed by moderator)iration of what is to come.
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I wish. Or maybe I don’t.

One of the reasons I’m so much aware of judgement is that, as I"ve said many times on this forum, on the night my father died, he appeared in my room. He started with an apology, we argued and conversed, and at the end he gave this terrifying scream at something he could obviously see coming for him, and then disappeared. I can still visualise the scream, and the way he looked. That was just over 32 years ago. If you’ve sat up in bed, and seen your own father screaming his head off no more than eight feet away, it leaves an impression on your mind, especially when you know it was the same night he died.

I also had a prophetic pastor in my earliest Protestant days. He could not of himself look into the future any more than anybody else, but God would tell him certain things that were going to happen. And he was very accurate.

I do get hints of things. When I wrote the two letters to our premier I wasn’t really thinking of Cyclone Yasi. in fact I was referring more to the floods that were already a fait accompli. But a couple of days later Yasi came thundering onto the scene, and is very shortly about to hit the Queensland coast. It’s not far short of the power of Hurricane Katrina.

I did have a vision once of an abortionist called Peter Bayliss who died here a few years ago. In the vision he was tied down somehow and being constantly bombarded by what looked like small demons (representing aborted babies?) with long spikes in their rear ends. Odd vision? I suppose, but then if it was real, I wouldn’t like to be in his shoes. Imagine being subject to that for etermity. Take it or leave it, that was the vision as I saw it. It was brief, but to the point, if you’ll pardon the pun. It didn’t come from me, as I wasn’t thinking about him at the time. And it woke me up.

I’m personally convinced we’re being hammered by all these natural disasters. We can either ask ourselves “Why?” or we can just go on assuming it is just an unlucky string of occurrences.

And I wouldn’t really like to see the future in any real detail, at least for the next fifty years or so. I think it would be discouraging.
 
Australia’s deadliest cyclone occured in 1899. This current one is no bigger. In 1899 Australia had not even Federated as a nation. Queensland’s worst flooding occured in 1974. I wouldn’t get too carried away about this one being the wrath of God.
 
masondoggy said:
Praying for the safety of all involved. How scary!
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Your prayers must have worked. It was a bad cyclone, but the loss of life is minor. I’ve only heard of one fatality so far, but the damage to property is immense. The entire town of Cardwell, in Far North Queensland (FNQ) seems to have been virtually wiped out. The major cities of Cairns and Townsville seemed to escape the worst of the storm. Last night I listened to a woman being interviewed. She and her family were hunkered down in purpose built bunkers beneath their house, north of Innisfail. She said the noise from up above was just incredible and sounded like a freight train going over the top of them. She was wondering if their house would still be there in the morning. Haven’t heard any more of her this morning.

The cyclone was downgraded to category three at 4am this morning and is gradually diminishing in power as it moves inland. Lots of rain.

Mother nature sure has some awesome power up her sleeve.
 
John21652 said:
Your prayers must have worked. It was a bad cyclone, but the loss of life is minor. I’ve only heard of one fatality so far, but the damage to property is immense. The entire town of Cardwell, in Far North Queensland (FNQ) seems to have been virtually wiped out. The major cities of Cairns and Townsville seemed to escape the worst of the storm. Last night I listened to a woman being interviewed. She and her family were hunkered down in purpose built bunkers beneath their house, north of Innisfail. She said the noise from up above was just incredible and sounded like a freight train going over the top of them. She was wondering if their house would still be there in the morning. Haven’t heard any more of her this morning.

The cyclone was downgraded to category three at 4am this morning and is gradually diminishing in power as it moves inland. Lots of rain.

Mother nature sure has some awesome power up her sleeve.
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I never want to go through another hurricane…The one that hit Galveston was called Ike, 2 years ago. We had power until about 1 a.m. when it started moving inland. Everyone else went to sleep and I sat up, watching out the protected kitchen window and listening to the constant screaming of the wind…the creaking of the house…you wonder if the roof is going to fly off at some point, or the bricks start breaking up…I mean, our sticks and bricks construction isn’t really made for that kind of assault. Fortunately the house took no damage (we had zero trees on our property). But we had no power for 72 hours. Most had no power for 2 weeks or more.

I take it you were out of harm’s way, John? I’m adding all of you to my prayers tonight.
 
Bob_Crowley said:
I wish. Or maybe I don’t.

One of the reasons I’m so much aware of judgement is that, as I"ve said many times on this forum, on the night my father died, he appeared in my room. He started with an apology, we argued and conversed, and at the end he gave this terrifying scream at something he could obviously see coming for him, and then disappeared. I can still visualise the scream, and the way he looked. That was just over 32 years ago. If you’ve sat up in bed, and seen your own father screaming his head off no more than eight feet away, it leaves an impression on your mind, especially when you know it was the same night he died.

I also had a prophetic pastor in my earliest Protestant days. He could not of himself look into the future any more than anybody else, but God would tell him certain things that were going to happen. And he was very accurate.

I do get hints of things. When I wrote the two letters to our premier I wasn’t really thinking of Cyclone Yasi. in fact I was referring more to the floods that were already a fait accompli. But a couple of days later Yasi came thundering onto the scene, and is very shortly about to hit the Queensland coast. It’s not far short of the power of Hurricane Katrina.

I did have a vision once of an abortionist called Peter Bayliss who died here a few years ago. In the vision he was tied down somehow and being constantly bombarded by what looked like small demons (representing aborted babies?) with long spikes in their rear ends. Odd vision? I suppose, but then if it was real, I wouldn’t like to be in his shoes. Imagine being subject to that for etermity. Take it or leave it, that was the vision as I saw it. It was brief, but to the point, if you’ll pardon the pun. It didn’t come from me, as I wasn’t thinking about him at the time. And it woke me up.

I’m personally convinced we’re being hammered by all these natural disasters. We can either ask ourselves “Why?” or we can just go on assuming it is just an unlucky string of occurrences.

And I wouldn’t really like to see the future in any real detail, at least for the next fifty years or so. I think it would be discouraging.
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Hello Bob,

You are not alone in your thoughts except we are afraid to speak them out or be considered “loony tunes” “religious nut” etc.
The Victorian fires came just after the new abortion laws which removed all protection from the life of the infant whilst in the womb up to 40 weeks.
These floods and cyclone came when Qld Parliament was debating their abortion laws with the idea of repeating the Victorian outcome.
G.A
 
australia has definitely had to deal with a lot over the past year. wasn’t it last year that they also had the bad wildfires that killed so many people, then the flooding and now the cyclone.
i pray that there won’t be many lives lost. the news here in the u.s. has not been giving it very much coverage because of all the news happening in egypt i think.
 
Not to mention the massive snow storm that has affected so many in the US.
Praying for all those affected by the snow storms in the US.

Our Father, Who art in heaven
Hallowed be Thy Name;
Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace.
Our Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

Glory be to the Father,
and to the Son,
and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be,
world without end. Amen.

O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, and lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of Thy mercy.
 
Grace_Angel said:
Hello Bob,

You are not alone in your thoughts except we are afraid to speak them out or be considered “loony tunes” “religious nut” etc.
The Victorian fires came just after the new abortion laws which removed all protection from the life of the infant whilst in the womb up to 40 weeks.
These floods and cyclone came when Qld Parliament was debating their abortion laws with the idea of repeating the Victorian outcome.
G.A
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Precisely. While there’s been little loss of life fortunately (probably because we had a week of warning, and to give the Premier her due, she handled the public face of the crisis very well), it’s going to have a considerable economic clout. 75% of Queensland’s bananas crop was wiped out, along with a considerable amount of the sugar cane crop.

When the cyclone turns into a rain depression, it will cause more flooding. It’s possible it could even affect the Northern Territory from that point of view.

My own personal point of view, speaking as a "religious nut’, is that we’ve been given a warning without major loss of life. If we keep going the way we are, I suspect something else will happen. And as I said, you can’t sit up in bed and watch your own father screaming his head off about eight feet away without being aware there’s something out there to be feared.

God might be the God of the butterfly and the beauty of a sunset or coral reef. He’s also the God of the black hole and the hurricane. To quote CS Lewis (approximately). “God may be the final comfort. But he is also the final terror.”
 
Bob_Crowley said:
I wish. Or maybe I don’t.

One of the reasons I’m so much aware of judgement is that, as I"ve said many times on this forum, on the night my father died, he appeared in my room. He started with an apology, we argued and conversed, and at the end he gave this terrifying scream at something he could obviously see coming for him, and then disappeared. I can still visualise the scream, and the way he looked. That was just over 32 years ago. If you’ve sat up in bed, and seen your own father screaming his head off no more than eight feet away, it leaves an impression on your mind, especially when you know it was the same night he died.

I also had a prophetic pastor in my earliest Protestant days. He could not of himself look into the future any more than anybody else, but God would tell him certain things that were going to happen. And he was very accurate.

I do get hints of things. When I wrote the two letters to our premier I wasn’t really thinking of Cyclone Yasi. in fact I was referring more to the floods that were already a fait accompli. But a couple of days later Yasi came thundering onto the scene, and is very shortly about to hit the Queensland coast. It’s not far short of the power of Hurricane Katrina.

I did have a vision once of an abortionist called Peter Bayliss who died here a few years ago. In the vision he was tied down somehow and being constantly bombarded by what looked like small demons (representing aborted babies?) with long spikes in their rear ends. Odd vision? I suppose, but then if it was real, I wouldn’t like to be in his shoes. Imagine being subject to that for etermity. Take it or leave it, that was the vision as I saw it. It was brief, but to the point, if you’ll pardon the pun. It didn’t come from me, as I wasn’t thinking about him at the time. And it woke me up.

I’m personally convinced we’re being hammered by all these natural disasters. We can either ask ourselves “Why?” or we can just go on assuming it is just an unlucky string of occurrences.

And I wouldn’t really like to see the future in any real detail, at least for the next fifty years or so. I think it would be discouraging.
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Thank you for your explanation about how and why you focus on the Judgement of God.From my own experience and what I have read about this approach,is that there are good things on reflecting on God’s anger and His Justice.For instance St.Theresa of Avila wrote that some mortal sins can only be avoided by the fear of Hell!!

The flip side of this is a certain “theology of the Righteous and Wealth rewards”–if we sin therefore we deserve punishment and if we see our neighbour sin ,we judge that they too will be damned if they do not repent.But not only will this will happen but here on earth they will be miserable as well.If however we live a just and righteous life,God will not only reward us in the next life ;but also we will have an abundance of wealth here and now.In other words The Cross of Christ is painted over with gold leaf!!

To a certain extent the above maybe true;though Our Lord warned us not to look at our neighbours and the splinters in their eyes, but to focus on the planks in our own eyes.He also expressed that He did not being peace into this world but division;letting the wheat and the darnel grow side by side.At Lourdes,St.Bernadette was told by Our Lady that she does not promise her hapiness in this life.

I think that because of a severity idea of a hard judgemental God who “watched” everyone and punished them with His Anger by fire,flood and brimstone that Our Lord appeared to St.Faustina and entrusted to her to reveal The Divine Mercy of God;a Merciful God who forgave the repentant King David his sins of adultery and murder.As Jesus told St.Faustina,God will bring the fruit of the passion and death of His Son–the water and the blood that flowed from the Sacred Heart of Jesus–a flood of Mercy to the world ,before God’s final Judgement .

I did not mean to be “preachy”,yet we need like Jona to temper our zeal to proclaim to the world that an impending nature disaster is an act of God(as a direct punishment for a certain sin).In one way this cyclone did avert the major towns and so far caused no loss of life.As far as property goes,the land up in the tropics does recover very quickly and a harvest of plenty usually follows.The farmers know the risks of living in a region prone to flooding but accept it as part of the deal.People live and enjoy this tropical pardise (but at a price–similar to people who live in Florida)In the Big Picture,this rain will flush all the river systems,fill the artesian water basins and make life sprout in abundance–a Blessing from the Lord.–“I love this sunburnt country-a land of floods,fires and droughts–”’
 
TheRealJuliane said:
I never want to go through another hurricane…The one that hit Galveston was called Ike, 2 years ago. We had power until about 1 a.m. when it started moving inland. Everyone else went to sleep and I sat up, watching out the protected kitchen window and listening to the constant screaming of the wind…the creaking of the house…you wonder if the roof is going to fly off at some point, or the bricks start breaking up…I mean, our sticks and bricks construction isn’t really made for that kind of assault. Fortunately the house took no damage (we had zero trees on our property). But we had no power for 72 hours. Most had no power for 2 weeks or more.

I take it you were out of harm’s way, John? I’m adding all of you to my prayers tonight.
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Oh, I am about three months horseback ride south. 😃
I remember reading about Ike and the unpleasantness of being in a hurricane. You call them Hurricanes, we call them Cyclones and in Asia they are Typhoons. Did you know, they circle anti-clockwise in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the southern hemisphere. Thereby, of course, proving that we in the southern hemisphere stand up the right way and not on our heads!
 
Bob_Crowley said:
Precisely. While there’s been little loss of life fortunately (probably because we had a week of warning, and to give the Premier her due, she handled the public face of the crisis very well), it’s going to have a considerable economic clout. 75% of Queensland’s bananas crop was wiped out, along with a considerable amount of the sugar cane crop.

When the cyclone turns into a rain depression, it will cause more flooding. It’s possible it could even affect the Northern Territory from that point of view.

My own personal point of view, speaking as a "religious nut’, is that we’ve been given a warning without major loss of life. If we keep going the way we are, I suspect something else will happen. And as I said, you can’t sit up in bed and watch your own father screaming his head off about eight feet away without being aware there’s something out there to be feared.

God might be the God of the butterfly and the beauty of a sunset or coral reef. He’s also the God of the black hole and the hurricane. To quote CS Lewis (approximately). “God may be the final comfort. But he is also the final terror.”
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Grace_Angel:
Nite Bob hope tomorrow brings better news for Qld and surrounds.
God Bless
GraceAngel.
 
karoleck said:
Thank you for your explanation about how and why you focus on the Judgement of God.From my own experience and what I have read about this approach,is that there are good things on reflecting on God’s anger and His Justice.For instance St.Theresa of Avila wrote that some mortal sins can only be avoided by the fear of Hell!!

The flip side of this is a certain “theology of the Righteous and Wealth rewards”–if we sin therefore we deserve punishment and if we see our neighbour sin ,we judge that they too will be damned if they do not repent.But not only will this will happen but here on earth they will be miserable as well.If however we live a just and righteous life,God will not only reward us in the next life ;but also we will have an abundance of wealth here and now.In other words The Cross of Christ is painted over with gold leaf!!

To a certain extent the above maybe true;though Our Lord warned us not to look at our neighbours and the splinters in their eyes, but to focus on the planks in our own eyes.He also expressed that He did not being peace into this world but division;letting the wheat and the darnel grow side by side.At Lourdes,St.Bernadette was told by Our Lady that she does not promise her hapiness in this life.

I think that because of a severity idea of a hard judgemental God who “watched” everyone and punished them with His Anger by fire,flood and brimstone that Our Lord appeared to St.Faustina and entrusted to her to reveal The Divine Mercy of God;a Merciful God who forgave the repentant King David his sins of adultery and murder.As Jesus told St.Faustina,God will bring the fruit of the passion and death of His Son–the water and the blood that flowed from the Sacred Heart of Jesus–a flood of Mercy to the world ,before God’s final Judgement .

I did not mean to be “preachy”,yet we need like Jona to temper our zeal to proclaim to the world that an impending nature disaster is an act of God(as a direct punishment for a certain sin).In one way this cyclone did avert the major towns and so far caused no loss of life.As far as property goes,the land up in the tropics does recover very quickly and a harvest of plenty usually follows.The farmers know the risks of living in a region prone to flooding but accept it as part of the deal.People live and enjoy this tropical pardise (but at a price–similar to people who live in Florida)In the Big Picture,this rain will flush all the river systems,fill the artesian water basins and make life sprout in abundance–a Blessing from the Lord.–“I love this sunburnt country-a land of floods,fires and droughts–”’
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Well written!

I hear what Bob is telling us, but I don’t think connecting all these dots shows God’s wrath is upon us. Cyclonic activity is normal in the north of Australia and this particular one is not the biggest that has hit. Neither is the recent flooding around Brisbane the worst that’s occured. The bushfires which devastated Victoria two years ago were not the worst in that State’s history by any stretch of the imagination. The 1939 bushfires almost destroyed the entire state and the ashes landed on the Alps in New Zealand!! As Australia’s population has grown, then these normal natural events take on a new significance because there are more people in the path of these events and the value of their property is far higher. And don’t forget the role of the media in shaping ourb perceptions of doom and gloom. The media are throwing images of ‘disaster’ at us twenty four seven. They pervade our senses.

As Karoleck eloquently reminds us, Australia is a land of droughts and flooding rains and was captured as such in a famous poem, My Country, by Dorothea MacKellar. She wrote of Australia as a “wilful, lavish land” and a “Land of the rainbow gold, For flood and fire and famine, She pays us back threefold.” And that’s the way God made her.
 
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