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Before I say this let me say this… I have family members that are homosexual and lesbian, and by that I mean “actively” so. They are in fact good people. I’m sure they have sins. Who doesn’t. Nonetheless, I’ve met quite a few evil heterosexuals in my life. None of my family members that are homosexual or lesbian are evil people.
That said…
For one thing, Jesus would say something that would tick off entire crowds and leave his disciples and Apostles dumbfounded.
On a side note: we discussed something similar to the Surgeon General’s “Call To Action” report in an STD class I take in school. I objected to the report as too much politics, philosophy (and poor philosophy at that), and social science rather than being just a hard (natural) science report.
The professor (Ph.D. in laboratory science) conceded that the Call To Action is largely political and that my accusations were correct.
Like the Catholic Church the Call To Action is extraordinarily concerned with the feelings of homosexuals and how the rest of society needs to assimilate them into society. All the while you hear little to nothing from them about drug addicts. The Call To Action in fact was totally silent on that point even though IV drug users make up a significant portion of HIV cases and other STD cases. More importantly, males that are both IV drug users and engage in male-on-male sex are even at greater odds of contracting HIV.
Yet… LOL the Call To Action waxes on about how we in society need to accept lesbians, bisexuals, transgender people to reduce the spread of STDs and HIV. It goes on the bemoan the fact homosexuals commit suicide.
Drug addicts and alcoholics commit suicide all the time. No one cares. They acquire STDs all the time. Again, no one (or few at least) care.
From a raw natural science stand point attempting to reduce the spread of STDs and HIV I asked why the Call To Action was intentionally silent on this population, whilst simultaneously condemning abortion and staunchly supporting abortion (a philosophical contradiction, not a tautology)? My question was rhetorical. I already knew the answer. Drug addicts don’t have lobbyists and political clout.
As my professor noted the Surgeon General’s office–such as with the issue of abortion–was and does try to appeal to two opposing sides so they can reach a middle ground to work together. So, that office is trying to appeal to the Catholic Church and liberal feminists and gay advocates all at the same time.
I said all that to say this:
I have a couple questions. Is it morally fine to be a pedophile so long as you don’t have sex with kids? Is it okay to be sexually aroused by the thoughts of chopping people up and eating them so long as you never do it?
How can Jesus statements be right that a man is guilty in his heart of adultery if he lusts after a married woman even if he does not have any sexual contact with her?
I live in a world of politics (e.g., Hilary Clinton opposed to blaspheming the Virgin Mary but publicly supports publicly funded art exhibitions hosting such blaspheme due to the sacredness of U.S. politics and duality) and I get tired of hearing it. The sales pitches keep coming.
I want to hear reality. What’s really going on. What’s true at it’s roots.
I’m not a politician. Hilary Clinton and the Pope are going to tell you something totally different about homosexuality or about a woman demanding to engage violent men in violent hand-to-hand combat than I will tell you. Because I’m going to get down to the roots and reality of the possibility of getting your teeth knocked out your mouth. Of having to put your dentures on before you go on a date. But then I’ve been punched around by some big men. One of them being my ex-con uncle who can be damn near Satanic. Mainly when he’s high on crack. But his violence is real, not show boating, and direct. It’s not a violence appropriate for day time television. No television.
HIV I suspect is as real and unPC in its violence too. It cares nothing about politics. You can send all the lobbyists to Washington you want. Scream it expresses itself in too real of terms you’re willing to accept.
So, I really don’t buy into this political rhetoric that it’s okay to be gay as long as you don’t play. If it is then maybe it’s okay for me to lust in my heart after a woman (though I have millions of times).
That said…
The Church and Popes (although I loved John Paul II) remind me more of American politicians than Jesus Christ.Obviously it’s going to be tough in this day and age to oppose gay marriage. However, one thing Catholics can do is to oppose homophobia. That’s right. You can still oppose homophobia while opposing homosexual acts. Remember, the Catechism teaches there is nothing wrong with being a homosexual. You just can’t practice homosexual acts. High schools these days are tough with all the bullies calling homosexuals “faggots” and “dykes.” This doesn’t just happen in high school either unfortunately. I think as Catholics, we should strive to fight homophobic bullying while maintaining an opposition towards homosexual marriage. Such an announcement from the Catholic Church would bring light to Catholic communities all over the US.
This is a little off-topic, but supporting gay marriage outside of the Catholic Church is NOT ok for Catholics to do, right? I mean it wouldn’t make sense since two homosexuals marrying is considered a homosexual act…
For one thing, Jesus would say something that would tick off entire crowds and leave his disciples and Apostles dumbfounded.
On a side note: we discussed something similar to the Surgeon General’s “Call To Action” report in an STD class I take in school. I objected to the report as too much politics, philosophy (and poor philosophy at that), and social science rather than being just a hard (natural) science report.
The professor (Ph.D. in laboratory science) conceded that the Call To Action is largely political and that my accusations were correct.
Like the Catholic Church the Call To Action is extraordinarily concerned with the feelings of homosexuals and how the rest of society needs to assimilate them into society. All the while you hear little to nothing from them about drug addicts. The Call To Action in fact was totally silent on that point even though IV drug users make up a significant portion of HIV cases and other STD cases. More importantly, males that are both IV drug users and engage in male-on-male sex are even at greater odds of contracting HIV.
Yet… LOL the Call To Action waxes on about how we in society need to accept lesbians, bisexuals, transgender people to reduce the spread of STDs and HIV. It goes on the bemoan the fact homosexuals commit suicide.
Drug addicts and alcoholics commit suicide all the time. No one cares. They acquire STDs all the time. Again, no one (or few at least) care.
From a raw natural science stand point attempting to reduce the spread of STDs and HIV I asked why the Call To Action was intentionally silent on this population, whilst simultaneously condemning abortion and staunchly supporting abortion (a philosophical contradiction, not a tautology)? My question was rhetorical. I already knew the answer. Drug addicts don’t have lobbyists and political clout.
As my professor noted the Surgeon General’s office–such as with the issue of abortion–was and does try to appeal to two opposing sides so they can reach a middle ground to work together. So, that office is trying to appeal to the Catholic Church and liberal feminists and gay advocates all at the same time.
I said all that to say this:
I have a couple questions. Is it morally fine to be a pedophile so long as you don’t have sex with kids? Is it okay to be sexually aroused by the thoughts of chopping people up and eating them so long as you never do it?
How can Jesus statements be right that a man is guilty in his heart of adultery if he lusts after a married woman even if he does not have any sexual contact with her?
I live in a world of politics (e.g., Hilary Clinton opposed to blaspheming the Virgin Mary but publicly supports publicly funded art exhibitions hosting such blaspheme due to the sacredness of U.S. politics and duality) and I get tired of hearing it. The sales pitches keep coming.
I want to hear reality. What’s really going on. What’s true at it’s roots.
I’m not a politician. Hilary Clinton and the Pope are going to tell you something totally different about homosexuality or about a woman demanding to engage violent men in violent hand-to-hand combat than I will tell you. Because I’m going to get down to the roots and reality of the possibility of getting your teeth knocked out your mouth. Of having to put your dentures on before you go on a date. But then I’ve been punched around by some big men. One of them being my ex-con uncle who can be damn near Satanic. Mainly when he’s high on crack. But his violence is real, not show boating, and direct. It’s not a violence appropriate for day time television. No television.
HIV I suspect is as real and unPC in its violence too. It cares nothing about politics. You can send all the lobbyists to Washington you want. Scream it expresses itself in too real of terms you’re willing to accept.
So, I really don’t buy into this political rhetoric that it’s okay to be gay as long as you don’t play. If it is then maybe it’s okay for me to lust in my heart after a woman (though I have millions of times).