December Republican Primary Poll

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CMatt25 said:
Here apparently was Rick Perry’s take on Romney’s offer to bet him $10,000. " I was taken a little aback" by Mitt Romney’s wager, Perry said on Fox News Sunday, Politico reports. “Driving out to the station this morning I’m pretty sure I didn’t drive by a house that anyone in Iowa would think a $10,000 bet was possible. It was a little out of touch with the normal Iowa citizen.”

But then Romney supporter John H Sununu had this to say. “He used a figure of speech,” Sununu said. “I think the only thing that will come out of that is to remind people about a $500,000 outstanding bill at Tiffany’s.”

I just presume he was referring to Newt’s revolvng line of credit for jewelry.

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Why is what Newt Gingrich spending his earned money on being turned into an attack. :confused::confused:
 
Gingrich’s rise is for real

“Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s rise is for real. He leads comfortably in the three early primary or caucus states (Iowa, South Carolina, and Florida), and is giving former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney a run for his money in New Hampshire. He’s got a broad base of support, from both the tea party activists and more establishment-minded voters. The compressed calendar plays into his hands as well, along with the fact that the two states after New Hampshire neighbor his home state of Georgia.” - Hotline

“Given the magnitude and intractability of our problems, Newt’s willingness to think outside of the proverbial box is absolutely essential. And this helps to explain, I think, his continued appeal to Republican primary voters.” - FrumForum

Stopping Newt

Romney and other Republicans scramble to blunt Gingrich’s momentum - Washington Post

“Newt Gingrich offered a robust defense of his views on the Middle East, his lucrative work after leaving Congress and his conservative credentials during a spirited debate here on Saturday night as his Republican presidential rivals urged voters to take a hard look at his candidacy.” - New York Times

“The Romney campaign is moving next to portray the former House speaker as a reckless flamethrower who lacks the even-keeled disposition needed in the nation’s highest office.” - RCP

"Dana Milbank points out in the Washington Post that Newt suggested opponents should be demonised by labeling them “traitors”, “selfish” and “sick”. Milbank finishes with a brilliant line: “Now, Gingrich said he doesn’t want to be ‘the attack dog in the Republican Party’. But it’s a bit late for purity. He’s Newt Gingrich, and he approved this message.” - Mark Mardell for the BBC

At least on one issue — immigration — Newt Gingrich gets it - Bill Keller in the New York Times

NPR notices that Romney is now making himself available to media, now his campaign needs help.

If Newt fails as the anti-Romney candidate, Ron Paul could steal Iowa - Timothy Carney for the Washington Examiner

“Ron Paul is too often written out of the horse race narrative by the media, but his local strength has the advantage of four years of snowballing policy vindication. And given the intensity of his supporters and his second place status in many polls, it is a mistake to think he could not pull off an upset and recalibrate the race entirely.” - John Avlon for the Daily Beast

Toby Harnden: It’s good that there’s a long contest

“The road to the Republican nomination in 2012 is likely to be a long and grueling one with many unexpected twists and detours to come. Ultimately, the qualities needed to be the last man standing will include perseverance and the ability to take knocks and recover. It may seem unlikely right now given the pettiness and pratfalls of this pre-primary phase but long-term it is a process that has every chance of producing a nominee with the stature needed to take on Obama next November and win.” - Toby Harnden at The Telegraph

“Romney’s well-financed campaign is also built for the long haul. He has a ton of dough to dump on 30-second spots. If Romney can survive the opening contests, he can win a war of attrition with Gingrich, whose campaign has been a shoestring affair that is just starting to attract volunteers and serious money.” - Daily Beast

A Flood of Jewish GOP Candidates - Roll Call

During the Obama presidency (still less than three years old), the number of Americans who think their country’s best days are in the future, rather than in the past, has taken a 33-point turn for the worse - Weekly Standard
 
StevenFrancis said:
Yeah…I’m sure you’re right. 😉 Rick’s not exactly soaring up in the polls.
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Why do you think that is? I’ve heard he has extensively travelled the state. His message and family life is one that I would think would appeal to the conservative voter. It puzzles me why he has not done better for instance among the Iowa GOP voters in the polls. So many others have had their moments in the sun before falling off. But Rick Santorum just never seemed to have his. 🤷
 
CMatt25 said:
Why do you think that is? I’ve heard he has extensively travelled the state. His message and family life is one that I would think would appeal to the conservative voter. It puzzles me why he has not done better for instance among the Iowa GOP voters in the polls. So many others have had their moments in the sun before falling off. But Rick Santorum just never seemed to have his. 🤷
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Rick Perry came in with huge momentum and sailed into the lead without ‘firing a shot.’ He then proceeded to perfrom abysmally in the debates. I mean it was PAINFUL to watch him. Further his bristling defense of in state tuition for illegals with the snarky “If you don’t wan’t this you don’t have a heart” was a shot through his. I remember hearing that comment and thinking ‘well you’re toast.’ It’s fine to have a disagreement and to explain that this is something supported by Texans for Texas but it’s quite another to disparage the many Americans who disagree with offering magnets for illegals.

Before Rick Perry got in and there were all these flirtations with "will he or wont he’ which ginned up support even more, I heard from a lot of Texans that he had some negatives that had been buried by a good economic performance. His inability to speak on his feet or in front of a crowd was mentioned frequently. He is apparently great one on one but is not a good public speaker. Given the opponent is Obama whose speaking ability and the kind of charisma that garnered a majority, I think many voters feared Perry would look like a country bumpkin and thus not appeal to a wide span of the electorate.

Lisa
 
Why is Gingrich getting so much support? This is a guy who has supported an individual mandate, has supported abortions, has trashed the Ryan plan for balancing the budget, and was a lobbyist for Fannie Mae which was a major player in the housing bubble. This is the conservative candidate?
 
smndtupidisaftr said:
Why is Gingrich getting so much support? This is a guy who has supported an individual mandate, has supported abortions, has trashed the Ryan plan for balancing the budget, and was a lobbyist for Fannie Mae which was a major player in the housing bubble. This is the conservative candidate?
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I suspect all the people in the forum who like Obama are cheering for Gingrich. Same agenda.
 
That’s what I’ve heard from political insiders. They say that Obama is pleased if Gingrich gets the nomination. He’s a weaker opponent. I would certainly think so. I’m still hoping for a Paul-Obama race.
 
smndtupidisaftr said:
I’m still hoping for a Paul-Obama race.
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Same here. I think if he has a strong showing in Iowa he actually has a shot at the nomination. I honestly think that if he wins the nomination he will be the next President of the United States. He has the most appeal to independents and disaffected Democrats.

Part of me wishes that Judge Napolitano is his running mate just so I can see him yell, “It’s Unconstitutional!” for every answer in a debate against Joe Biden.

Paul/Napolitano is my dream ticket!
 
smndtupidisaftr said:
That’s what I’ve heard from political insiders. They say that Obama is pleased if Gingrich gets the nomination. He’s a weaker opponent. I would certainly think so. I’m still hoping for a Paul-Obama race.
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They would be happier with Paul simply because, well, Paul isn’t as presidential as Obama. He speaks the truth but he doesn’t put it as eloquently. I agree with Ron Paul on almost every point, but I truly don’t think he could beat Obama (sadly because half of the voters actually know the issues and take time to think about them).
 
karebear92 said:
They would be happier with Paul simply because, well, Paul isn’t as presidential as Obama. He speaks the truth but he doesn’t put it as eloquently. I agree with Ron Paul on almost every point, but I truly don’t think he could beat Obama (sadly because half of the voters actually know the issues and take time to think about them).
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I’m tired of “presidential” presidents. They’ve allowed this country to lose its dominant position in the world and instead we are left with a decaying economy and infrastructure. I don’t want another president. I want someone who stands for principles that I agree with, and who actually stands for them, unlike most candidates who just do whatever is convenient.
 
smndtupidisaftr said:
I’m tired of “presidential” presidents. They’ve allowed this country to lose its dominant position in the world and instead we are left with a decaying economy and infrastructure. I don’t want another president. I want someone who stands for principles that I agree with, and who actually stands for them, unlike most candidates who just do whatever is convenient.
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As do I, but I would rather have a Republican in the White House than four more years of Obama. I am sure you know as well as I do that most Americans, and even most Americans that vote, don’t look at the issues, so looking the part does matter unfortunately.

I would love to see Obama and Paul debate, however. Paul is a weaker debater (in eloquence) but his ideas and facts are generally dead on.
 
smndtupidisaftr said:
Why is Gingrich getting so much support? This is a guy who has supported an individual mandate, has supported abortions, has trashed the Ryan plan for balancing the budget, and was a lobbyist for Fannie Mae which was a major player in the housing bubble. This is the conservative candidate?
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Ginrich is the one candidate that will ‘give it’ to Obama. He is not afraid to speak up against the liberal Obama supporting media as well. The other candidates either seem “too nice” or can’t speak clearly about what is wrong with Obama’s agenda. Gingrich is tough and aggressive and we’re all tired of being political punching bags while Obama (or Pelosi or Reid or Axelrod or Plouffe) spew out absolute lies and the press never calls them out.

Because of his perceived ability to speak circles around Mr Lost Without My Teleprompter, many are salivating at the thought of a debate between the two. Many Gingrich supporters are willing to overlook the failed marriages, the adultery, the ethics charges, the fact that his former fellow members of Congress don’t want him—because he can beat up on Obama. Same thing for the flurry of support for Trump. He is a surrogate for the anger of millions.

That being said if he’s the nominee, I’d vote for him in a heartbeat and I disagree that he’s the weaker candidate. He clawed his way back from zero. The man has a backbone.
Lisa
 
In other words, Gingrich speaks well, even if he doesn’t stand for anything? So then what’s the difference between him and Obama? Seriously, how are they fundamentally different?
 
smndtupidisaftr said:
In other words, Gingrich speaks well, even if he doesn’t stand for anything? So then what’s the difference between him and Obama? Seriously, how are they fundamentally different?
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Well, not to be technical, but most would say Paul stands for nothing, literally in that he always says no. I personally agree with what he says no to, but I wouldn’t say Gingrich doesn’t speak for anything. I really wish we could scientifically combine Rick Santorum and Ron Paul; they would make a pretty good candidate.
 
karebear92 said:
Well, not to be technical, but most would say Paul stands for nothing, literally in that he always says no. I personally agree with what he says no to, but I wouldn’t say Gingrich doesn’t speak for anything. I really wish we could scientifically combine Rick Santorum and Ron Paul; they would make a pretty good candidate.
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Paul stands for nothing? He follows the classical liberal tradition and follows Austrian economist. He is the only one that stands for anything.

Santorum wants to expand our overseas wars, and Romney and Gingrich have both supported individual mandates. So why are any of these guys better to choose than Paul?
 
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