Do you understand what the Catechism is stating about relations, because that is what I am communicating to you.Vico:
I would have thought that a person who calls a bisexual person “homosexual” just doesn’t understand the meaning of the words.
OK, cool – yes, the CCC’s definition of “homosexuality” as “relations” goes directly against common usage. But if we define it that way, then, yes, anyone who actively has sex with the same sex is “acting as a homosexual”. But to use the word as an adjective to describe them is a bridge too far.
This is very important to say. There is a lot of pride – even demonic pride, perhaps – in some individuals pushing for homosexual activity to become as central to our society as marriage and family. But we shouldn’t allow that fact to obscure the many innocent people who just experience attractions, and naturally use the words to describe these attractions that are used in dictionaries.
Yes, and this is because the Church offers such young people little or no help. It is an awful reality that the LGBT movement shows more kindness to these children than we do in the Church!
I work in a liberal environment and what I see is that the LGBTQ movement has made the workplace more accepting of everyone, not just LGBTQ. It has raised awareness about prejudices that people didn’t even know they had. It has made our workplace stronger. It keeps us on our toes about the way we treat each other and what we presume about eachother not just based on sexuality, but also on appearance, and religion, and a multitude of other things. I think it is a good thing. It lets people be who they are at their core instead of trying to hide everything around it. I think it will take a full generation of adjusting to this relatively new concept, but I still see it as a good thing. There are a lot of growing pains, to be sure.
Really? I think there’s some of this, but there is also the fact that anyone who opposes liberal orthodoxies has to be afraid of being called a bigot or a hater.
Well, if they feel that someone who is LGBTQ shouldn’t have the same (ETA added to clarify: for the purpose of this discussion, referring to WORKPLACE opportunities) opportunities as straight people, then that does kind of make them a bigot and hater, doesn’t it?Really? I think there’s some of this, but there is also the fact that anyone who opposes liberal orthodoxies has to be afraid of being called a bigot or a hater.
BAD!
No, not at all. I don’t think blind people should have all the same opportunities as seeing people (e.g. driving), but I’m not a hater of blind people.
You don’t know who is biting their tongue. I work entirely among liberals, and I bite my tongue far too much.
Yes the world does try to squeeze everyone into it’s mold, and define ourselves by something other than what God intends for us. But it is more problematic for LBGTQ persons because heterosexuals do not need to think about their sexuality. They are immersed in a culture that is dominant and centered around them. Those who are not heterosexual are forced to face the fact that they do not fit into the majority, and thus, must grapple with questions of identity that heterosexuals do not.
A lot, but I don’t see what this has to do with sexual orientation.
Plenty, but I don’t see what this has to do with sexual orientation either. Gender is about societal/cultural norms and expectations.
Exactly! This is one reason non-heterosexual persons have struggles that heteros do not! They are already in a minority, already a victim of assumptions.
No need for that. Why would it be necessary to let people know that? But I do take your point. It is much more frustrating to live in a culture where one is always opposite the “norm”.
Not at all. But then, you don’t put this forward as the main lens through which you identify yourself or through which others should identify you. Although, I have to say that there are some Star Trek fans who may be in this state.
I think it is both. The victims of stereotyping suffer as much or more than the perpetrators.
Yes. And since this is not part of the teaching of Christ, one should use great caution.
We have several people at my work who oppose “liberal ideas”; they actively believe one of my colleagues shouldn’t be allowed to marry her partner, believe another is an abomination because she was assigned a different sex at birth, and believe most of us are deviants. They’ve never been called haters. Our group largely just seem disappointed that they’re so caught up in wanting other folks not to have the same rights as them. They don’t seem like happy people.QwertyGirl:
Really? I think there’s some of this, but there is also the fact that anyone who opposes liberal orthodoxies has to be afraid of being called a bigot or a hater.
BAD!