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ivebeenshown
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A woman who raises her children and cares for her husband has no ‘real-world experience’? Yeah right, tell that to my wife.
Dem strategist Rosen: Ann Romney ‘never actually worked a day in her life’ [VIDEO]
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Charlotte408
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I’m still voting for Santorum. Call it spite I don’t care
My vote doesn’t matter anyways 
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seekerz
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In the actual interview (rather than analyses of it) the context that Rosen’s response directly links to is that of Romney’s dialog on women’s concerns. Working women are at the heart of that; for example, they were the first ones mentioned when he accused the Obama admin of waging the real war on women. He didn’t say “women at home are struggling to make it when their husbands get laid off” for example; he spoke directly to women’s employment rates i.e. to working women.
As I’ve said before, the only attack here, is the one that says ‘rich folk can’t understand’. There is no attack on stay at home moms because that’s not who the discussion is/was about: not on Rosen’s side, not on Romney’s side. Maybe they should have been singled out for special mention, but they were not: Ann Romney, and her ability to speak to these issues, was.
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_Abyssinia
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Hilary Rosen is no rogue pundit, she has visited Obama White House 35 times, more than some Obama cabinet secretaries. She has visited 3 times more than secretary of defense Panetta.
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Scott_Lafrance
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Apparently, strategizing over how to win a second term is more important than national security.
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seekerz
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My, my, how earth did we get from ability to speak to economic issues to what is real work and what is not? No real women I know overly sensitive about what they do: within or outside their homes.
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_Abyssinia
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Ann Romney Just BLASTED Democrats And Hilary Rosen On Fox
Some of the key quotes from Ann Romney’s appearance on Fox:
• On her gut reaction to the initial comments: “She should have come to my house when those five boys were causing so much trouble. It wasn’t so easy.”
• On her career choice as a mother: “My career choice was to be a mother.”
• On what concerns she hears from women: “Guess what women are talking about? They’re talking about jobs, and they’re talking about the legacy of debt that we’re leaving our children.”
• On Rosen’s comments this morning (SEE BELOW): “Maybe I haven’t struggled as much financially as some people have, but I can tell you, I’ve had struggles in my life. I would love to have people understand that Mitt and I have compassion for people that are struggling. That’s why we’re running. We care about the people that are struggling.”
On Rosen’s comments that he doesn’t treat women equally: “That does bother me. That is not correct at all. … He has so many women in his circle. … Mitt Romney is a person that admires women and listens to them, and I am grateful that he listens to me.”
Read more and watch Ann Romney being interviewed on Fox: businessinsider.com/ann-romney-hilary-rosen-fight-2012-4
Some of the key quotes from Ann Romney’s appearance on Fox:
• On her gut reaction to the initial comments: “She should have come to my house when those five boys were causing so much trouble. It wasn’t so easy.”
• On her career choice as a mother: “My career choice was to be a mother.”
• On what concerns she hears from women: “Guess what women are talking about? They’re talking about jobs, and they’re talking about the legacy of debt that we’re leaving our children.”
• On Rosen’s comments this morning (SEE BELOW): “Maybe I haven’t struggled as much financially as some people have, but I can tell you, I’ve had struggles in my life. I would love to have people understand that Mitt and I have compassion for people that are struggling. That’s why we’re running. We care about the people that are struggling.”
On Rosen’s comments that he doesn’t treat women equally: “That does bother me. That is not correct at all. … He has so many women in his circle. … Mitt Romney is a person that admires women and listens to them, and I am grateful that he listens to me.”
Read more and watch Ann Romney being interviewed on Fox: businessinsider.com/ann-romney-hilary-rosen-fight-2012-4
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irishpatrick
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Many women (not all) will see this as an attack on Ann Romney, and upon stay-at-home Moms. I cannot see how it can be seen in any other light.
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irishpatrick
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Good stuff.
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irishpatrick
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Okay Class, in 2008, who made this statement:
“You know essentially, you’ve taken on sort of the most sympathetic person in the candidate’s realm, the wife, who is taking care of the children, supporting the husband, doing everything she can because she loves him … [it’s a] stupid strategy.”
“You know essentially, you’ve taken on sort of the most sympathetic person in the candidate’s realm, the wife, who is taking care of the children, supporting the husband, doing everything she can because she loves him … [it’s a] stupid strategy.”
meltzerboy
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I don’t think any of this is “good stuff.” Rather, it is indicative of the petty squabbles and dirty politics that are, unfortunately, only going to increase on both sides of the political arena as the general election campaign progresses. These side-issues regarding comments from Obama and Romney supporters are bound to detract from the hard-core issues and proposed solutions to the economic, health care, foreign policy, and other problems we are facing. For the record, as I stated in my previous comment, I agree that stay-at-home moms do hard work, and I also believe the Republicans, in general, do not support women who work outside the home as much as Democrats do. Others may disagree. OK, let’s now move on to the major issues confronting us.Good stuff.
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irishpatrick
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It is good stuff in terms of how Ann Romney responded.
meltzerboy
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Yes, I agree with that; Ann Romney is an intelligent woman and her husband’s greatest asset in the campaign. I think perhaps she should run for President in place of her husband. The same for Michelle Obama.
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_Abyssinia
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Stay-at-Home Moms
Source: America’s Families and Living Arrangements <census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/families_households/cb10-174.html; Table SHP-1 <census.gov/population/www/socdemo/hh-fam.html >
Compared with other moms, stay-at-home moms in 2007 were more likely to be:
census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/facts_for_features_special_editions/cb11-ff07.html
Number of stay-at-home moms in 2010 — down from 5.1 million in 2009 and 5.3 million in 2008 (the estimates for 2010 and 2009 are not statistically different). In 2010, 23 percent of married-couple family groups with children under 15 had a stay-at-home mother, up from 21 percent in 2000. In 2007, before the recession, stay-at-home mothers were found in 24 percent of married-couple family groups with children under 15.
Source: America’s Families and Living Arrangements <census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/families_households/cb10-174.html; Table SHP-1 <census.gov/population/www/socdemo/hh-fam.html >
Compared with other moms, stay-at-home moms in 2007 were more likely to be:
- Younger (44 percent were under 35 compared with 38 percent of mothers in the labor force).
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Without a high school diploma (19 percent versus 8 percent of mothers in the labor force).
census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/facts_for_features_special_editions/cb11-ff07.html
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seekerz
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That’s why people have different perspectives. Romney crafted a strategy, laid it’s basis (at least partly) on what his wife was telling him - and doesn’t expect her to be attacked? I do agree it was a political attack on Mrs Romney as relates to her role in her husband’s strategy. That is all.
Incidentally, I have never heard attacks on Michele Obama and her obesity campaign, related to attacks on mom who stay home and garden or cook…but hey, that’s life.
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irishpatrick
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Yes, and throughout many campaigns, it has been proven that attacks against a candidate’s family members–never pays off, it is always a negative for the attacking party.
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scipio337
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Wrong. Rosen had every chance in the interview to frame this as applying to “working women” alone, and has had chances to do so today.
She did NOT last night, and she HAS NOT today.
Obviously, I should accept your analysis of what was “meant” and the context of the discussion, rather than the interview itself, and the resulting defense by Rosen today.
There was an attack on Ann Romney being “out of touch with women’s economic issues” due to her “never working a day in her life”.
Democrats are treating her statements like kryptonite today. From Axelrod and Messina to Michelle Obama. Defending or rationalizing it is polishing dirt clod.
miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/04/top-dems-distance-themselves-from-hilary-rosen-dnc-she-doesnt-work-for-us.html
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gnjsdad
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This has to be one of the lowest blows I’ve seen in a while. I don’t know anything about Ann Romney except that she’s Mitt’s wife. I do know that staying home and raising 5 sons had to be HARD, no matter the circumstances. Her detractor finds fault in the fact she has never been a wage slave.
Instead of the manufactured “war on women” concocted by Democratic party operatives, let’s talk about the real war on women that has been going on for decades.
Let’s talk about the war on virginity and fertility (THE precious gifts of womanhood)waged by the purveyors of contraception.
Let’s talk about feminism, the initial reaction to the introduction of the pill, and how the feminists have embraced their oppressors and become active proponents of the pill. Early feminists rightly saw the immense benefit of the pill to their men. The pill leaves women barren, exploited, and polluted, and ultimately, unattached to any meaningful family life.
Let’s talk about how feminism has captured the workplace, which has allowed employers to drive down wages and end any possibility of paying a family wage.
These things make it easy to turn women into sexually robotic wage slaves. The fact that Ann Romney is fortunate enough to have escaped that fate is what people like Hillary Rosen seem to resent most.
Instead of the manufactured “war on women” concocted by Democratic party operatives, let’s talk about the real war on women that has been going on for decades.
Let’s talk about the war on virginity and fertility (THE precious gifts of womanhood)waged by the purveyors of contraception.
Let’s talk about feminism, the initial reaction to the introduction of the pill, and how the feminists have embraced their oppressors and become active proponents of the pill. Early feminists rightly saw the immense benefit of the pill to their men. The pill leaves women barren, exploited, and polluted, and ultimately, unattached to any meaningful family life.
Let’s talk about how feminism has captured the workplace, which has allowed employers to drive down wages and end any possibility of paying a family wage.
These things make it easy to turn women into sexually robotic wage slaves. The fact that Ann Romney is fortunate enough to have escaped that fate is what people like Hillary Rosen seem to resent most.
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scipio337
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The ugliness continues. Some responding “Conservatives are attacking Rosen because she’s a lesbian parent!”
buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/democrats-respond-conservatives-are-attacking-ros
buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/democrats-respond-conservatives-are-attacking-ros
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mary_bobo
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You forgot to mention that the president has called Michele one of his most trusted advisors. Seems like same strategy to me, but I could be wrong.
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