Are these systems equal? Or are some systems better than others? If so, what makes them better
I’ll let the conversation drop about when life begins. You aren’t really addressing the scientific arguments put forth by the white paper, and I have no compelling reason to put weight on your assertions.
Everybody here knows it’s satire.
There is no difference
Nonsense, people who want their child don’t even consider abortion they are not involved in the choice. Choice is a feel-good word for aborting your baby, coined by the pro-abortion advocates to make the action more acceptable
Do you mean planning before the sex act using an approved Catholic family planning method?
Hmmm…I guess we are at an impasse here to. I would assert that most people would disagree with you…that most people have an inherent knowledge that child rape and molestation is wrong without ever being told (this is natural law). Its not a subjective feeling for most people.KMC:
That is the point. There are is no epistemological method to compare one ethical system with another one, since they are subjective. Just like there is no epistemological method to compare two musical pieces and decide which is more beautiful than the other.
As I said, in this day and age and in this culture. Just a few decades ago it was perfectly normal to have children work 10-12 hours a day, seven days a week. Some were chimney sweepers, and when their hands and feet were burned… there were others to take their place.
I am late to the discussion, but your logic… Well, if I may.
Yes, I differentiate between DNA, cell, tissue, organ, organism, blastocyst, embryo, fetus and newborn. Also between egg and chicken and acorn and oak tree. Also between medical student and physician. There is always a lot of common things, and yet a huge amount of difference. Not just quantitative, but also qualitative differences.
Again, if you would consider the difference between contraception, the morning after pill and the late term abortions, we could have a conversation. Yes, those gruesome procedures exist, but they are very rare, and only happen in the most serious cases. So, if you would endorse contraceptives, and the morning after pills, we could find a common platform as a basis for a conversation. But the emotional: “tearing the baby from limb to limb” as if that would be the “norm” - does not help your cause.
You are free to call it anything you want to. But don’t expect others to agree. Until we can find a common platform and a common vocabulary we shall just talk past each other. What is the point?
Conception, fetus, New Born, Baby, Infant, child, teen, young adult, adult, middle age and old. All of those are the same person.
What is your definition of a “person”? Without a mutually agreed definition there can be no discussion.
If I need to define a person to have a discussion, shows the level of mental gymnastics people are willing to do, to come to a conclusion.
If precision is “mental gymnastics” then it is useless to try to engage in a discussion. How arrogant and degrading.
Nice tautology, without any informational value.
You are basing your “not a person” argument in a measurement done with instruments?
But stopped short for SC Justices and the Fed appointments. Also for passing tax reform and healthcare bills.
Does 600,000 abortions a year help your cause?
Of course they won’t agree, no matter what you call it, because they are pro-abortion
Doesn’t matter when you are taking a life
There is still life
Yet they started the ball rolling
Tell that to the people who allow abortion for whatever passes for rape and incest.
Good, now we can counterfeit money. Oh wait…