Democratic response to Trump's speech: He's 'Wall Street's champion'

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Jeanne_S said:
Christian/ Conservatives overwhelmingly give more of their treasure to the disadvantaged.This is a documented fact.
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Obviously more needs to be done than just individual charity. So maybe cutting taxes on the rich man Jesus talked with isn’t the best idea.
 
Michael68 said:
If you really cared, you would consider Americans first and not this fake moral outrage
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Well, it’s not fake moral outrage. It’s real moral outrage. 🙂

I really do have neighbors who can’t afford to feed themselves. But increasing defense spending by $54 billion and cutting safety net programs that poor people rely on is not going to put food on their table.
 
Thorolfr said:
Well, it’s not fake moral outrage. It’s real moral outrage. 🙂

I really do have neighbors who can’t afford to feed themselves. But increasing defense spending by $54 billion and cutting safety net programs that poor people rely on is not going to put food on their table.
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Exactly.
 
Sy_Noe said:
He did just 2 posts above yours. You must have missed it.
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If it were a true “drop the mic” moment, he/she would not need to pick it back up and continue. Maybe you missed what it means? But keep on keeping on. 👍
 
Jeanne_S said:
The left are globalists,Obama said and did everything in his power to diminish the U.S. throughout the world.
How refreshing to actually have a president ,once again who loves and is proud of this country and wants to put us first.Gotta love it!������������������������������������������������������������������
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I think if Americans were put under “global” dominance, we would be in a very bad way.
 
Thorolfr said:
I don’t have much money and so do go without quite a bit myself. But I do give money and food to a neighbor when I can when she and her family don’t have enough for food. I have also allowed people who don’t have a place to live to stay in my house for a while until they could find a place of their own.

As for the US, it is one of the richest countries in the world and could certainly afford to feed, shelter and provide health care to all its own people and to also help other countries if there was a desire by most of its citizens to do so.
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That’s great and kudo’s to you! Your not starving though? YOu do have a place to live? What I mean to say is that you look after yourself first right?
 
Thorolfr said:
Maybe some of the rich people in my church who have two or three houses, several cars, etc. could do a little more to help the poor both in our own country and in other countries. It’s not unusual for me to park next to a Bentley or a Lexus when I go to church. Maybe that member of my church could drive a Ford or a Subaru instead and donate the money to charity. Maybe some of them who live in $3 million dollar homes (and have another $1 million dollar home somewhere else) could afford to downsize to something cheaper so that they could help others out who aren’t so fortunate.
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Yes maybe they could? BUt that is their problem before God! We have no Idea what these people do when we are not watching or judging them!

My point is that there is nothing wrong with looking after one self in the first place, then turning to help others. Why should the US be spending Billions of dollars on contraception and abortion worldwide when they have huge deficits and there own people hungry?
 
Sy_Noe said:
Obviously more needs to be done than just individual charity. So maybe cutting taxes on the rich man Jesus talked with isn’t the best idea.
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Does that rich man run a business that employs people? Or is he just hoardeing his gold coins?
 
Thorolfr said:
Maybe some of the rich people in my church who have two or three houses, several cars, etc. could do a little more to help the poor both in our own country and in other countries. It’s not unusual for me to park next to a Bentley or a Lexus when I go to church. Maybe that member of my church could drive a Ford or a Subaru instead and donate the money to charity. Maybe some of them who live in $3 million dollar homes (and have another $1 million dollar home somewhere else) could afford to downsize to something cheaper so that they could help others out who aren’t so fortunate.
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How do you know they aren’t donating enough? I was the same way until I found out several of these people were actually donating scholarships and funding retreats. Be careful questioning parishioners behavior you can only see!
 
DeniseNY said:
If it were a true “drop the mic” moment, he/she would not need to pick it back up and continue. Maybe you missed what it means? But keep on keeping on. 👍
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It was such a moment but then he thought of even more to say. More than 1 mic can be dropped on the same CAF thread. 🙂
 
Michael68 said:
How do you know they aren’t donating enough? I was the same way until I found out several of these people were actually donating scholarships and funding retreats. Be careful questioning parishioners behavior you can only see!
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To be honest, I don’t think anyone really needs to live in a multi-million dollar home (or even more than one) or have more than one car per person or to drive a Bentley. If someone has that much money, they could give even more.
 
Thorolfr said:
To be honest, I don’t think anyone really needs to live in a multi-million dollar home (or even more than one) or have more than one car per person or to drive a Bentley. If someone has that much money, they could give even more.
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That was my point but I see class warfare is on your mind.
 
Thorolfr said:
Maybe some of the rich people in my church who have two or three houses, several cars, etc. could do a little more to help the poor both in our own country and in other countries. It’s not unusual for me to park next to a Bentley or a Lexus when I go to church. Maybe that member of my church could drive a Ford or a Subaru instead and donate the money to charity. Maybe some of them who live in $3 million dollar homes (and have another $1 million dollar home somewhere else) could afford to downsize to something cheaper so that they could help others out who aren’t so fortunate.
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I know a man who bought a Rolls Royce probably three decades ago. He’s still driving it. And, he’s a pretty generous man. I think he had an exceptional year and had always wanted a Rolls Royce, and got one believing the hype about how a Rolls is a “lifetime car”. And maybe it is, for all I know.

I am inclined to agree that driving a Lexus is perhaps an over-expenditure, but I have difficulty objecting to it too much because it benefits someone else down the road. I, for example, like to drive top of the line BMWs, but I never buy them new. A ten year old BMW L-series doesn’t cost as much as a new, low-end Chevy. Rich people take good care of their cars, and those old BMWs are wonderful cars and usually in excellent shape.

I don’t know if rich people think of the favor they’re doing for people lower down on the food chain, but they are doing us one.

One of the remarkable things about income and wealth is that there is no correlation between the two. A man with a million dollar salary might have less wealth than one with a $100,000 one. Indeed, most millionaires are millionaires because of two things a) they live below their means, and b) most of them are self-employed and the big part of their wealth is in their business.

“The rich” are oftentimes not what we think they are. Not many millionaires inherited their wealth. Most earned it and, as I said, most of it is tied up in their businesses. But since the super-wealthy like Warren Buffett can manipulate their incomes and hire experts to avoid it, “taxing the rich” probably means “taxing small businesses” most of the time.
 
Sy_Noe said:
It was such a moment but then he thought of even more to say. More than 1 mic can be dropped on the same CAF thread. 🙂
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Sy, you really crack me up sometimes!!! Do you cross your arms and scowl at the audience too?
 
Thorolfr said:
To be honest, I don’t think anyone really needs to live in a multi-million dollar home (or even more than one) or have more than one car per person or to drive a Bentley. If someone has that much money, they could give even more.
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Good for you, but to be honest it is not your call and ou should not judge somone only because they have money!👍
 
Thorolfr said:
Maybe some of the rich people in my church who have two or three houses, several cars, etc. could do a little more to help the poor both in our own country and in other countries. It’s not unusual for me to park next to a Bentley or a Lexus when I go to church. Maybe that member of my church could drive a Ford or a Subaru instead and donate the money to charity. Maybe some of them who live in $3 million dollar homes (and have another $1 million dollar home somewhere else) could afford to downsize to something cheaper so that they could help others out who aren’t so fortunate.
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Wow, judge others much. Did you ever think that maybe those Bentley drivers DO in fact donate to charities.
 
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