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Raxus:
And the Democrats do
That is not an honest representation of the the position of the Democratic party, nor its voters.
If your goal is sharpen the wedge for the sake of divisiveness to aid opponents of the Democratic party, then this is great rhetoric.
If your goal is to solve the aborion problem, this is a very poor way to go about it.
The Dems had a great chance to help solve a major problem with abortion and that is the despicable late term abortion procedures the Dems what to keep legal. They failed to save the lives of children who can live outside the womb. YOu apparently are ok with these murders. Good for you!
 
Interesting to see you back away from the Catholic pro-life position to one of “ending abortion on demand”.

Do we actually have abortion on demand in the country?
I’m not, of course. But you know that. You just enjoy misrepresenting what people say instead of making a real argument OR giving up your support for abortion politicians.

And you know too that this country has abortion on demand. Everybody knows that as well.
 
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Imdaman:
That does not say a lot about the moral character of these Catholics.
Or it may be saying something about your ability to judge other’s character, motives, and principles.
If supporting politicians who support legalized murder isn’t a game changer nothing any party supports can really be an issue. Support for life begins at life! All other pro-life issues flow from there.
 
The Dems had a great chance to help solve a major problem with abortion and that is the despicable late term abortion procedures the Dems what to keep legal. They failed to save the lives of children who can live outside the womb. YOu apparently are ok with these murders. Good for you!
Let’s make a distinction.

First, there are the children who are not killed by the abortion itself. Obama twice voted against saving such children, allowing them to die of exposure or whatever the doctor wanted to do with them.

Second there are the children killed in partial birth abortions. The ability of states to ban it came before the Supreme Court in “Carhart vs. Gonzales”. Every Democrat on the Court voted to make late term abortion a constitutional right. Every Republican on the court voted to allow states to ban it.

Tells you what it means to vote for Dems for president. Might as well directly vote for killing children, because that’s what it is.
 
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No. The Church encourages us to follow our conscience, provided that conscience is formed correctly.

I don’t care if the Democrats promised every homeless person in the world a solid gold house and all the caviar they can eat, we don’t endorse murder.

We don’t endorse murder. And the Democrats do. Not a hard decision for anyone who opposes murder.
We don’t endorse torture, unjust wars or racism either.
Of course not. No party does. Unless you think that ripping apart a child limb from limb in the womb is a form a torture. It is scientific fact that these child feel the pain of this act. Hmmm. maybe their is a party that supports torture!
 
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Ridgerunner:
No. The Dem party is the most significant barrier to ending abortion on demand in this country.
Interesting to see you back away from the Catholic pro-life position to one of “ending abortion on demand”.
Do we actually have abortion on demand in the country?
Yes we do. Anyone even a a minor caught up in a sex ring can walk into an abortion mill and get an abortion. NO questions asked.
 
I’m not, of course. But you know that.
You did back away. Perhaps that is because you know that the Republican party has scant interest in the Catholic pro-life position.
You just enjoy misrepresenting what people say
That is a weird charge with no truth to it whatsoever. is that what you enjoy doing?
And you know too that this country has abortion on demand.
I think that you mean something other than abortion on demand, but are calling it that for your political purposes…
 
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Imdaman:
Of course not. No party does.
Maybe you should reconsider your comment based on the statements of the Republican leader…
PLease show me where in the Republican convention do they support torture?

My question for you is why do you say you do not support torture but vote for a party that clearly endorses the torture of children?
 
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Imdaman:
PLease show me where in the Republican convention do they support torture?
Here’s a few Trump quotes:

“When ISIS is doing things that no one has ever heard of, since medieval times, would I feel strongly about waterboarding? As far as I’m concerned, we have to fight fire with fire.”

"I would bring back waterboarding, and I’d bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding,”

So, no party endorses torture?
Correct no party endorses torture or are you now conceding that the DNC now endorses Late term abortion. Because they are many Democrats that fell strongly about that. even Obama wanted unrestrained abortion. They not only talked about it but voted for it countless times.

BUt as of now I guess you can’t provided any evidence the the repubs support torture.
 
You did back away. Perhaps that is because you know that the Republican party has scant interest in the Catholic pro-life position.
A truly ugly misrepresentation of my statements and the position of the Repub party.

Abortion on demand is exactly what we have in this country. If your Dem party wants to call it something else to defend the indefinsible, it’s free to do it. But that’s what it is.
 
Whats you point. There is video evidence that underage children can go into a clinic and get an abortion no questions asked .
 
No restrictions.
I think most states have no restriction up to x weeks in the second or third trimester for adults.
So for the most part we have on demand abortions for adults, they need no justification unless they wait too long.
 
That is a restriction. That is not, on demand.

What is you defintion of “on demand”?
I’ll go with the generic definition from Dictionary.com. It indicates the US does have abortion on demand.

noun
1. the right of a woman to have an abortion during the first six months of a pregnancy.
2. an abortion performed on a woman solely at her own request.
 
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Imdaman:
Correct no party endorses torture or are you now conceding that the DNC now endorses Late term abortion. Because they are many Democrats that fell strongly about that. even Obama wanted unrestrained abortion. They not only talked about it but voted for it countless times.

BUt as of now I guess you can’t provided any evidence the the repubs support torture.
I can’t provide any evidence that the republicans support torture except for direct quotes from the leader, you mean. I can also point to the nomination of Gina Haspel to run the CIA and the fact that torture occurred in the last Republican administration. I’m pretty sure that qualifies as evidence.
NO actually it doesn’t. unless you concede that it also means that the Dem party supports abortion and wants unrestricted access even to the point where the child is about to be born alive!
 
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