Democrats now critical of Rice's Benghazi explanation, amid more damaging evidence

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FWIW Rep Elijah Cummings was obviously very much against the hearings with a five minute tirade at the beginning. By the end of the hearing, HE was suggesting more hearings are needed. The father of former SEAL Tyrone Woods said he spoke to him after the hearings and thanked him for having an open mind and being committed to getting the truth.

You can continue to pretend that no one cares oldcelt, but I think that many Democrats are realizing that continuing to block efforts to learn more about Benghazi only makes them look MORE suspicious. If the truth is that there was no systemic failure, no attempt to cover up a foreign affairs debacle, and the Administration handled the matter appropriately then they have nothing to fear from continued investigation.

How long did Watergate last? I recall spending nearly an entire summer watching the proceedings. The Dems wanted the truth then, so hopefully someone has enough integrity to be as committed to finding the truth now.

Lisa
Watergate??

The breakin is something like the Summer of 1972 and Nixon resigned August 9, 1974.
 
Three hearings total…no media frenzy…no military action…no endless calls for more hearings. Try to slice it as you may Bob…the standards have been changed to a ridiculous extent in this case and many people can see it.
If I was the one writing talking points for the Democrats I would go on the offensive at this point and use these cases as my base line. It could no no harm, because the people supporting the current hearings are highly unlikely to vote Democratic at any point in the future.
I might even enlist ole Bill to be the attack dog.
I’m sorry for your distress, I hope no one is forcing CAF posters to post in regards to stories they have no interest in!!
 
That CBS reporter, a woman, is seemingly being threatened with being fired for talking about this story. Trying to get to the details.

“Hear no evil, See no evil, etc.”
 
Watergate??

The breakin is something like the Summer of 1972 and Nixon resigned August 9, 1974.
And your point is what? The hearings took a LONG time, that was MY point. The incident, Watergate break in, didn’t derail Nixon’s re-election just like Benghazi didn’t prevent us from making the second biggest mistake in history (the first was electing him:mad:) But the subsequent search for the truth about Watergate…the mantra that has continued, what did he know and when did he know it? was lengthy and did bring down Nixon.

I was responding to oldcelt who is valiantly attempting to claim that a couple hours with three of potentially dozens of witnesses has proven Obama’s and Hillary’s hands are clean. I disagree and apparently even Democrats are waking up to the reality that there is much more to learn.

Lisa
 
FWIW Rep Elijah Cummings was obviously very much against the hearings with a five minute tirade at the beginning. By the end of the hearing, HE was suggesting more hearings are needed. The father of former SEAL Tyrone Woods said he spoke to him after the hearings and thanked him for having an open mind and being committed to getting the truth.

You can continue to pretend that no one cares oldcelt, but I think that many Democrats are realizing that continuing to block efforts to learn more about Benghazi only makes them look MORE suspicious. If the truth is that there was no systemic failure, no attempt to cover up a foreign affairs debacle, and the Administration handled the matter appropriately then they have nothing to fear from continued investigation.

How long did Watergate last? I recall spending nearly an entire summer watching the proceedings. The Dems wanted the truth then, so hopefully someone has enough integrity to be as committed to finding the truth now.

Lisa
Well…we’ve got seven months in on this already. The GOP had better hope that they can find a Deep Throat or John Dean pretty soon. They have produced nothing to stir the American people to the level of interest or anger that Watergate generated.
Of course the people cared about the deaths of the Americans, and they care about the dozens of military members who have died since then…they just don’t think that hearing after hearing is necessary in order to honor the dead. If that was the case, we’d be having hearings after every IED or other terrorist act anywhere in the world.
I’ve been watching Fox all morning…a fleeting reference to the hearing, mainly a few GOP members saying we need more hearings…then cut immediately to lengthy analysis of Jodi Arias or the Cleveland case.

When you can’t even get one network (one that carried it constantly in the past) to carry the water for you…your cause has had its moment.
 
And your point is what? The hearings took a LONG time, that was MY point. The incident, Watergate break in, didn’t derail Nixon’s re-election just like Benghazi didn’t prevent us from making the second biggest mistake in history (the first was electing him:mad:) But the subsequent search for the truth about Watergate…the mantra that has continued, what did he know and when did he know it? was lengthy and did bring down Nixon.

I was responding to oldcelt who is valiantly attempting to claim that a couple hours with three of potentially dozens of witnesses has proven Obama’s and Hillary’s hands are clean. I disagree and apparently even Democrats are waking up to the reality that there is much more to learn.

Lisa
I proved your point, Watergate took 2 years plus to derail Nixon’s election and pretty questionable at all as to illegal acts, a press was out to get him. And as we have all said, Watergate was about obstruction of justice. So just the fact, that Benghazi was violent would probably add on more time.

The timeline should be stated as a matter of fact with regards to Watergate. Benghazi is only 8 months ago.

There may have been hearings on Benghazi already but the questions are there.

Hillary famously said “WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?”, if anything, that stirs up more curiosity.
 
And your point is what? The hearings took a LONG time, that was MY point. The incident, Watergate break in, didn’t derail Nixon’s re-election just like Benghazi didn’t prevent us from making the second biggest mistake in history (the first was electing him:mad:) But the subsequent search for the truth about Watergate…the mantra that has continued, what did he know and when did he know it? was lengthy and did bring down Nixon.

I was responding to oldcelt who is valiantly attempting to claim that a couple hours with three of potentially dozens of witnesses has proven Obama’s and Hillary’s hands are clean. I disagree and apparently even Democrats are waking up to the reality that there is much more to learn.

Lisa
No…I’m saying that the preponderance of evidence accumulated since the attack demonstrate that. So far as yesterday…the GOPs really big show was a flop.

Which Democrats Lisa…just how many have actually changed their minds? You make it sound like there has been some quantum shift in Democratic opinion…it just ain’t so.
 
Hillary Clinton most likely is guilty at least of perjury, deflating her chances of running for president.

Bring on the perjury hearings. What difference does it make? A big difference.

CAPITOL HILL - Testimony given Wednesday on Capitol Hill by Greg Hicks, Benghazi whistleblower and deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Libya, exposed former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as a liar.
Hicks, who was on the ground in Libya on September 11, 2012, said Clinton called him around 2 a.m. from Washington to ask “what was going on.” Hicks responded by saying the consulate was under attack. He never told her about a protest outside the consulate because there wasn’t one.
 
No…I’m saying that the preponderance of evidence accumulated since the attack demonstrate that. So far as yesterday…the GOPs really big show was a flop.

Which Democrats Lisa…just how many have actually changed their minds? You make it sound like there has been some quantum shift in Democratic opinion…it just ain’t so.
Oh yeah, you proved your point, Hillary Clinton likely has committed perjury, a crime. Glad you are so unbiased! 😛
 
Three hearings total…no media frenzy…no military action…no endless calls for more hearings. Try to slice it as you may Bob…the standards have been changed to a ridiculous extent in this case and many people can see it.
If I was the one writing talking points for the Democrats I would go on the offensive at this point and use these cases as my base line. It could no no harm, because the people supporting the current hearings are highly unlikely to vote Democratic at any point in the future.
I might even enlist ole Bill to be the attack dog.
Oldcelt. We are not disputing that embassies were attacked.

We are talking about the LIES Hillary and Barack conjured up.

Hillary, Barack, and Susan. Okay, three people in on the same lie, but it’s not a conspiracy.

Who told Susan Rice to lie???
 
I proved your point, Watergate took 2 years plus to derail Nixon’s election and pretty questionable at all as to illegal acts, a press was out to get him. And as we have all said, Watergate was about obstruction of justice. So just the fact, that Benghazi was violent would probably add on more time.

The timeline should be stated as a matter of fact with regards to Watergate. Benghazi is only 8 months ago.

There may have been hearings on Benghazi already but the questions are there.

Hillary famously said “WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?”, if anything, that stirs up more curiosity.
Attempting to rewrite the history of Watergate, as some here and elsewhere are doing does nothing but make them look silly. Nixon was involved in illegal acts from the outset and admitted that in his interviews with David Frost. Two investigative reporters broke the story, but the broader media, including their own paper, refused to print speculation and innuendo…they waited until the facts were overwhelming and the witnesses were from the highest level…now…that’s all we are hearing…if this happened…if they decided together…if…if…

The time has come to pony up on some facts…not another theory.
 
Oldcelt. We are not disputing that embassies were attacked.

We are talking about the LIES Hillary and Barack conjured up.

Hillary, Barack, and Susan. Okay, three people in on the same lie, but it’s not a conspiracy.

Who told Susan Rice to lie???
Exactly, she went on five Sunday talk shows echoing that point, because of it and it was apparently false, her name was withdrawn from being Secretary of State.

But despite how outrageous this is, we aren’t suppose to know anything about it.

What difference does it make?
 
Oldcelt. We are not disputing that embassies were attacked.

We are talking about the LIES Hillary and Barack conjured up.

Hillary, Barack, and Susan. Okay, three people in on the same lie, but it’s not a conspiracy.

Who told Susan Rice to lie???
Lies you contend they made up…if people want to continue with that line of attack in Congressional hearings, then show the American people the facts…no a “it just makes sense” answer.

I’ll add…had this occurred in a non-campaign season it would likely have been handled in precisely the same way the numerous deaths during the Bush Administration were…a quick investigation by the agencies involved…and then move on.

Well…time to accomplish something in the real world, where this story is way down the list of concerns for he average America.
 
There have been “hearings” so far, I suppose there should be hearings until we know what happened.

Not only were Americans’ lives lost but one of the Seals valiantly may have saved 30 persons’ lives. Until now, we have not heard their testimony.

We will have programs on the Abu Ghiraib prison photos but now, this part is off limits, the Left again, really wants to Censor the news and others’ opinions.
 
Oldcelt. We are not disputing that embassies were attacked.

We are talking about the LIES Hillary and Barack conjured up.

Hillary, Barack, and Susan. Okay, three people in on the same lie, but it’s not a conspiracy.

Who told Susan Rice to lie???
It looks like, and smells like a politically motivated collusion conspired upon by those whom we the voters have put in a place of public trust and if the trust is violated…

Just vote Republican next time, please… :o
 
It looks like, and smells like a politically motivated collusion conspired upon by those whom we the voters have put in a place of public trust and if the trust is violated…

Just vote Republican next time, please… :o
I would not call for “Partisanship”, I would say, the Democrats support some intrinsic evils per their party platform and in some ways, I wonder if this is karma coming back to bite them?

I honestly do wonder, President Obama supports some bad things. If we ourselves do bad things in life, fate might come back and get us. I’d say that’s the way the Divine might work.
Reminder: Hillary Clinton lied about Benghazi while standing in front of the victims’ caskets
 
oldcelt;10725870**:
Lies you contend they made up
…if people want to continue with that line of attack in Congressional hearings, then show the American people the facts…no a “it just makes sense” answer.

I’ll add…had this occurred in a non-campaign season it would likely have been handled in precisely the same way the numerous deaths during the Bush Administration were…a quick investigation by the agencies involved…and then move on.

Well…time to accomplish something in the real world, where this story is way down the list of concerns for he average America.

I contend? Did they are did they not say it was due to an anti-Islamic video??

I’m not speculating it was to help Obama’s reelection. I’m not saying anything about “it just makes sense.”

I’m asking about deliberate lies. You cannot deny that lies were WILLFULLY told by both Hillary and Obama. To the relatives of the dead and to the UN.

Susan Rice gets some slack, because I don’t know what she knew.
 
It looks like, and smells like a politically motivated collusion conspired upon by those whom we the voters have put in a place of public trust and if the trust is violated…

Just vote Republican next time, please… :o
We need a STRONG Republican who is not afraid of Hillary’s temper tantrums and Obama’s withering lectures.
 
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