Democrats... The Pro Life Party

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because there was no written policy of killing pregnant women (not children) you think it didn’t happen? children could work. Pregnant women and infants were a liability. So they were murdered first. I’ve never actually spoken with someone who took the position that the victims of Aushwitz – that survived – were healthy. That’s a new one.
You ignore the photos and decide they are of something else, you ignore the facts, although to be fair I know it is because you know NOTHING of this subject and have never viewed the evidence for yourself, and you misrepresent my position as stating that everyone who went to the camp remained healthy. Do you ever read anything before answering?
 
Now, as I said some time ago, if you want to discuss this subject further do it by PM or start a new thead. My original post on this subject was only an informed commentary on a movie that someone mentioned seeing and was not supposed to venture so far OT.
 
You ignore the photos and decide they are of something else, you ignore the facts, although to be fair I know it is because you know NOTHING of this subject and have never viewed the evidence for yourself, and you misrepresent my position as stating that everyone who went to the camp remained healthy. Do you ever read anything before answering?
I didn’t ignore the photos. I discussed them. My reasoning for deciding they were “somthing else” is not complicated. Each photo on the website YOU asked me to view, has a caption. And each caption says “…on the way too…” It is not rocket science. Stop attacking me. As for asking me if I ever read anything, try reading the cites that you post before you continue to make ridiculous “observations.”
 
I didn’t ignore the photos. I discussed them. My reasoning for deciding they were “somthing else” is not complicated. Each photo on the website YOU asked me to view, has a caption. And each caption says “…on the way too…” It is not rocket science. Stop attacking me. As for asking me if I ever read anything, try reading the cites that you post before you continue to make ridiculous “observations.”
You confusion and lack of understanding become even more clear. You are not even trying. In the “Liberation” section I referenced there is no caption containing anything about being “on the way to” anything. There are however 2 photos in the “During the War” section that contain this phrase. Not “each photo” but only 2 and in the wrong section. You are right, it is not rocket science, which is why I am perplexed at the trouble you are having. I am not attacking you, I am exposing your attacks on me as completely unfounded. I am not the one making “ridiculous observations”. If you decide to look again, MORE CAREFULLY, please acknowledge your mistakes by PM as we have been OT long enough.
 
Got it. Didn’t see any pictures of babies. The one close up shot of children doesn’t show them looking any too healthy to me. Especially the last photo.
 
The fact is that there are less abortions in the United States when democrats are in power then when republicans are in power. This is attributed to the fact that there is generally more funding made available for health care for women when the demo’s control things.

So if abortion is a hot button issue for you, it seems that Catholics should be voting democratic. Results over rhetoric.
I have heard this as well but I don’t have hard facts. It wouldn’t surprise me. I believe strongly that we need more money to help these young women actually have thier babies.

I vote democrat.
 
I have heard this as well but I don’t have hard facts. It wouldn’t surprise me. I believe strongly that we need more money to help these young women actually have thier babies.

I vote democrat.
Throwing money at a moral evil is NOT the answer.
Getting them to see that killing their baby is evil and wrong IS the answer.
 
I have heard this as well but I don’t have hard facts. It wouldn’t surprise me. I believe strongly that we need more money to help these young women actually have thier babies.

I vote democrat.
So you vote for the party that not only does not provide any more money to help people than the Republicans do no matter how much they talk about it, but are the ones who created the apparatus that exists solely to murder babies and keeps maintaining it as their primary goal? And that makes sense to you how?
 
Throwing money at a moral evil is NOT the answer.
Getting them to see that killing their baby is evil and wrong IS the answer.
Exactly. I have always wondered how the liberals convince so many people that doing more of what has never worked will eventually work.
 
Throwing money at a moral evil is NOT the answer.
Getting them to see that killing their baby is evil and wrong IS the answer.
how is it a moral evil to counsel and help young women see that the miracle of life is Gods gift? What is wrong with helping to have thier babies? How is that evil? They need help so they won’t have abortions.

No, getting them to see and understand how beautiful conception and the miracle of birth is will change hearts. I don’t believe in hard cord tactics. I don’t believe we will ever have conversation of the heart with that approach.
 
So you vote for the party that not only does not provide any more money to help people than the Republicans do no matter how much they talk about it, but are the ones who created the apparatus that exists solely to murder babies and keeps maintaining it as their primary goal? And that makes sense to you how?
I vote more in line with what Jesus taught us in the Beatitudes…it’s not a perfect system but the democrates in my mind come closer to more of those then republicans.

I’m sorry if this offends you.
 
I vote more in line with what Jesus taught us in the Beatitudes…it’s not a perfect system but the democrates in my mind come closer to more of those then republicans.

I’m sorry if this offends you.
Oh no, it doesn’t offend me. It is just hard to understand. Infinitely more so when you say “I vote more in line with what Jesus taught us…”. The current Democratic party and their beliefs and policies are about as far from the teachings of Jesus as any political party you could name. Sure, a lot of Republicans are no better but with the Democrats you are talking about a party whose most valued belief is in the right to murder your child. Some other things that come to mind:

“Blessed are the meek: for they shall posses the land.” The Democrats believe that the government should own and control all the land.

“Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.” Oh please, look what they did to their own star Joe Lieberman when he would not walk in lock-step with them.

“Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.” Democrats are all about dishing out persecution, not about suffering it.

“Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill.” You can see the Democrats thirst for justice in their treatment of all of the women who lodged sexual harrassment complaints regarding Bill Clinton. They were slandered and attacked as trailer trash and liars who did not deserve their day in court.

“Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God.” Ever see the laundry list of Democrats that have been convicted on sex-related charges pertaining to minors? Actual convictions, not accusations.

Heck, it is the Democrat-appointed liberal judges that are trying to remove God and Jesus from every aspect of American life.

Just read the statement at the bottom of your own posts. The Democrats are all about doom and gloom. That is all you ever hear from them. I could go on but why bother.
 
So following your line of thought…

There are less murders inside a prison, so that is a safer place to live?

Seriously, this is a black and white issue on against life or for life.

This argument crops up every once in a while on here for the die hard Democrats who dumb things down to ease their guilt for justifying voting pro death.
that makes no sense whatsoever. You make some nonsense analogy about prison and imply that I’m the one dumbing things down?
 
how is it a moral evil to counsel and help young women see that the miracle of life is Gods gift? What is wrong with helping to have thier babies? How is that evil? They need help so they won’t have abortions.

No, getting them to see and understand how beautiful conception and the miracle of birth is will change hearts. I don’t believe in hard cord tactics. I don’t believe we will ever have conversation of the heart with that approach.
We CANNOT stop abortion until people’s hearts change - not their financial picture. Rich people have abortions about as much as poor people.
You feel that throwing money at this evil will make it go away. What color is the sky in your world? Abortion will continue as long as people see it as a convenient option.
My father was a janitor and my parents raised 13 children so don’t give me the “poor” excuse. There are enough social programs in this country for people to milk - and they do. Heaping more money on the problem won’t help.
Get it through your head - ABORTION IS EVIL - being poor isn’t.
Either you’re pro-life or you’re not. PERIOD.
 
The fact is that there are less abortions in the United States when democrats are in power then when republicans are in power. This is attributed to the fact that there is generally more funding made available for health care for women when the demo’s control things.

So if abortion is a hot button issue for you, it seems that Catholics should be voting democratic. Results over rhetoric.
Figures lie and liars figure! The Democrat Party is pro-choice in both rhetoric and action. The Democrat’s have fought, obstructed or blocked virtually all efforts to provide women and girls alternatives to abortion in the way of information, education and assistance. Read up on the debacle that’s going on in Kansas right now. Who’s supporting ‘Tiller the Killer’…democrats! Who vetoed the ban on partial birth abortions 3 times, Clinton.

Your specious comments are typical pro-choice. You ought to do a little research before spouting off. I’ll vote for a pro-choice Democrat when pigs fly!

Iowa Mike
 
Democrats are proof that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
 
While it is true that the Road from the Clinton Administration lead to Bush, I don’t know if I would go so far as to equate Bush with hell. But you raise a valid point.
 
American politics is based on a dichotomy of left and right, liberal and conservative, Democrat and Republican. The pendulum swings so radically there is little stability. I guess better than a violent revolution every four to eight years. What is just and right, what is balanced, is on neither side. Thats why I am so disillusioned with politics, and instead, fight religious fundamentalism, which I think is the biggest sociological contributing factor in this instability, other than an imperfect constitution.
 
Exactly. I have always wondered how the liberals convince so many people that doing more of what has never worked will eventually work.
Very good question. I love Bob’s signature line “If it ain’t broke, fix it til’ it is.” I think that we are doing the same, in reverse, with education. It is broke and we keep doing the same thing, or more of the same to fix it. Where is the logic in that?
 
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