Detroit's pacifist bishop resigns-Pope to announce the move today

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Though, as the article points out, this bishop may very well continue to cause more disarray for the faithful Church now that he is officially retired:
“If anything, this resignation as an auxiliary to Cardinal Maida will make him even freer than he was before to travel, to speak and to write,” the Rev. Thomas Reese, a California-based scholar who is an expert on church structure, said Wednesday.
“I will continue to teach, preach, celebrate sacraments and carry on my work for justice and peace wherever I am called to do so,” Gumbleton said in an open letter to parishioners. “This of course includes as a priority my ministry at St. Leo’s.”
 
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felra:
Though, as the article points out, this bishop may very well continue to cause more disarray for the faithful Church now that he is officially retired:
We can be certain of that! 😦
 
This really isn’t gonna change much for Bp. Gumbleton…he’s had no curial role since about 1993.

And it’s kind of odd that the everyone seems to know about this resignation but the holy see.
 
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frommi:
And it’s kind of odd that the everyone seems to know about this resignation but the holy see.
I apologize for any offense, but the Detroit Free Press is to journalism as my fifth grade essay on my summer vacation is to great literature.

In fact, there were fewer typos in my essay than in a typical Detroit newspaper article.
 
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frommi:
This really isn’t gonna change much for Bp. Gumbleton…he’s had no curial role since about 1993.
At best it will reduce his credibility, if only a small amount. Currently, I think many of his favorite media outlets mislead unsuspecting readers and listeners by qualifying his statements and actions with the fact that he is a Bishop of the Archdiocese of Detroit even though he does not often speak on its behalf.

But, he will still retain his title in emeritus status.

It is intriguing to consider the timing of recent events, isn’t it?
:hmmm:
Either way, I will continue to pray for him.
 
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msproule:
At best it will reduce his credibility, if only a small amount. Currently, I think many of his favorite media outlets mislead unsuspecting readers and listeners by qualifying his statements and actions with the fact that he is a Bishop of the Archdiocese of Detroit even though he does not often speak on its behalf.

But, he will still retain his title in emeritus status.

It is intriguing to consider the timing of recent events, isn’t it?
:hmmm:
Either way, I will continue to pray for him.
He remains a bishop, you can’t scrape away ordination, and he’ll still be a bishop of the archdiocese of Detroit, albeit a retired one. Canonically they have certain obligations to him, although I highly doubt he’ll want them to buy him a condo anywhere.

I wish he had been a little less divisive, because a lot of his thoughts are pretty good…he doesn’t travel with an entourage, he doesn’t shy away from tough issues, and he really lived out his committment to the poor.
 
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frommi:
He remains a bishop, you can’t scrape away ordination, and he’ll still be a bishop of the archdiocese of Detroit, albeit a retired one. Canonically they have certain obligations to him, although I highly doubt he’ll want them to buy him a condo anywhere.

I wish he had been a little less divisive, because a lot of his thoughts are pretty good…he doesn’t travel with an entourage, he doesn’t shy away from tough issues, and he really lived out his committment to the poor.
We agree on both points (I think for the first time ever 😉 )!

The bodies of his homilies usually contain some good, faithful teaching. Then, quite often, there is a delicate twist in the end which leaves the average reader guessing and suspicious of his motives. I am sure his target audience eats it up, though.
 
Looks like he tried to evade the rules and it was rejected:
Rome Forces Homosexual Activist Bishop Gumbleton to Resign
By Gudrun Schultz

DETROIT, Illinois, January 26, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Auxiliary Bishop Thomas Gumbleton, who is known as an activist for homosexuality in the Church, has handed in his resignation to the Vatican. Pope Benedict XVI is expected to announce the resignation today.

Bishop Gumbleton resisted mandatory retirement last year when he reached the age of 75, asking to continue on as Auxiliary Bishop to Detroit Cardinal Adam Maida. His request, given to the head of the Congregation for Bishops, Cardinal Giovanni Re, was denied.

Full Story
PF
 
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msproule:
I apologize for any offense, but the Detroit Free Press is to journalism as my fifth grade essay on my summer vacation is to great literature.

In fact, there were fewer typos in my essay than in a typical Detroit newspaper article.
In spite of your unfortunate typos, your fifth-grade essay on your summer vacation really wasn’t all that bad… it was quaint, at times, poignant… kinda’ like Richard-John-Neuhaus-in-drag, actually.

On the other hand, Tom Gumbleton’s street-cred rocks in comparison to yours. The moment someone describes him in terms of a “pacifist” can only mean they have over-looked 95% of his persona.

Could you possibly be more glib? or superficial?
 
If what Lifesite news writes about Bishop Gumbleton is true, why wasn’t he removed years ago?
 
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msproule:
The bodies of his homilies usually contain some good, faithful teaching. Then, quite often, there is a delicate twist in the end which leaves the average reader guessing and suspicious of his motives. I am sure his target audience eats it up, though.
Oh, puh-leeeze…

Anyone who uses the word “delicate” in the same sentence (or paragraph) with the name of Bishop Gumbleton is woefully misinformed as to his character or “orthodoxy”.

(Those were “sneer quotes”, just in case you didn’t catch it.)

His younger brother was gay. He died at an early age from AIDS.
So did mine… talk to me about “delicate” now.

His younger brother was also a seminary classmate and friend.

Wanna’ escalate this?
 
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GloriaPatri4:
If what Lifesite news writes about Bishop Gumbleton is true, why wasn’t he removed years ago?
Because it’s Lifesite News that’s reporting…

Case closed.
 
All I can say is ALLELUIA hopefully Pope Benedict XVI will have him transferred to Rome where he can keep an eye on him.
 
Warning: Any “escalation” in the rhetoric may result in vacations from CAF for those who participate. Anybody not understand?

Walt
 
I just wanted to add a bit of clarity, to the extent that I can.

Yesterday a number of news sources published reports that Bishop Gumbleton’s retirement had been accepted by the vatican and it was to be formally published yesterday.

It was not. Nor was it in today’s Vatican press releases. Also there has been no press release from the archdiocese.

Simply put, Bishop Gumbleton’s retirement has not been accepted (yet).
 
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shs-aod:
Could you possibly be more glib? or superficial?
How am I glib and/or superficial for critiquing Detroit newspapers? I am not trying to be either, so please take it easy.

As far as the “street cred” comment, you are right about that…I am about as un-cool as they come!
😉

Finally, I know about Bishop Gumbleton and his family. I am really not sure what it is you want to “escalate”. My comments about his homilies were general in nature and not specifically meant to address his views on homosexuality. You can criticize my use of the adjective “delicate” all you want but honestly it came down to a choice among that one, “subtle”, and “unexpected”.
 
It appears that the Bishop may be more welcomed (for whatever reason) in Florida, than he is in Michigan.

Certainly he wore out his welcome many years ago with his views, his comments, his actions, his involvement,… etc etc etc by his association with many non and anti Catholic groups.

They want him…and more like him…

I want more like Chaput, Vasa, Burke etc etc
 
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