Diane Sawyer-Primetime Live-female Pope

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Here’s my take on this whole idea: I used to watch a show called “Strange Universe” that reported on all sorts of things…from the Geek Squad in their little cars to strange pagan rituals to snake dancing fundamentalists in the south.

I am not adverse to the media doing a story about the alleged Pope Joan. I agree that the mythology is interesting.

The issue I have is that they way they did it is so obviously anti–Catholic.

I have to confess that while watching the show I actually asked God to smack these people a few times. Not kill them, not “vwrath of God” stuff, but a divine smack upside the head. I’ve recieved several myself, so I can say it’s appropriate for them, also.

Amazing what a divine smack can do for the readjustment of perspective to the correct angle.

Anyway, this is how it should have been done:
  1. Hypothesis: Pope Joan- truth or myth?
  2. Search the source…what does the Church say? This is a myth affecting the Church…check out the Chruch defenses
  3. Follow the threads…is what the Church saying credible? Is what the myth-sayers credible?
  4. Use credible sources from all faiths or non-faiths.
  5. Dont discredit myself in the reporting…I need the paycheck.
Diane Sawyer clearly doesnt’ have to worry about a paycheck, but she DOES have to worry about ticking off a large number of voters she will no longer be able to influence over to the Dem’s side of the force.
 
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shannin:
Geeze - and I always liked Diane Sawyer :crying:
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I did too, until I started serious bible study. She did a terrible job on her her interview with Mel Gibson on The Passion of the Christ. This Pope Joan thing is a continuation of her anticatholic banter. She is seeming more and more a bubble head. I think she is trying too much to be like Katie Couric. Both of them are sickenly anti Catholic. This is my opinion. I can’t watch either anymore.

I was just telling a friend tonight on the phone, once I started studying the bible I could hardly watch Prime Time TV anymore. The anti Catholic, anti Christian biases are very obvious. I won’t waste my time.
 
I e-mailed Primetime telling them how lame I thought Pope Joan was and next time maybe they could do something on Al Capones secret vault.
 
What a waste of the airwaves! :rolleyes:

(that’s an hour that I can’t get back… :mad: )
 
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Why would it be so negative that there may have been a female pope at some time in the past? I understand that it is not accepted by the church today but if it happened in the past so what. It doesn’t change my faith.
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I agree. Even John Paul II admitted that the sons and daughters of the Church have made serious mistakes in the past. Compared to some, this internal matter seems inconsequential. Besides, this matter has been floating around for centuries and is clearly nothing new.
 
Well I did not watch the show, but something just striked me:
I know why Leonardo DaVinci’s Maddona has that smile - she smiles because she is the daugther of Pope Joan.
 
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They kept showing the artwork of Bernini and saying the faces looked like a woman’s…not at all…at best the faces looked sexless.

Here is a google search of Bernini images
images.google.com/images?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=bernini&sa=N&tab=wi

Now tell me you see similarity in the artwork.

and look at this statue…there is very little difference between the face of this male and female users.ipfw.edu/jehle/POESIA/Bernini-Dafne.htm
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furthermore…Bernini was born in 1598…what could he possibly have known about the facial characteristics of the fabled Pope Joan who supposedly lived around the 800 A.D.? The artwork by Bernini…the tarot cards…the crazy myths… are nothing more than specimens of artistic expression.
 
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I agree. Even John Paul II admitted that the sons and daughters of the Church have made serious mistakes in the past. Compared to some, this internal matter seems inconsequential. Besides, this matter has been floating around for centuries and is clearly nothing new.
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yeah right… the Holy Spirit wouldn’t give a hoot.

Succession… who needs it. Let God join in on creating scandals… we need His help to make them juicy. The Protestants can’t invent enough stuff by themselves anyway.
 
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furthermore…Bernini was born in 1598…what could he possibly have known about the facial characteristics of the fabled Pope Joan who supposedly lived around the 800 A.D.? The artwork by Bernini…the tarot cards…the crazy myths… are nothing more than specimens of artistic expression.
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Speaking of Bernini…this is a bit off topic…I see Bernini made a bust of St. Robert Bellarmine which is now to the left of the sanctuary of the Holy Name of Jesus Church in Rome. St. Bellarmine is interred there. Does anyone have a photo of this bust they can share on these forums? :o 🙂
 
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Diane S. should let up on the blonde hair dye…I think it is seeping into her scalp and brain and causing a distinct elevated level of dizziness.
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The show was definitely slanted in how they went on and on about the so called events. The women that she spoke to were carefully chosen for their bias as well. Particularly the “bouncy brunette” who was gung-ho for the sensationalism of it all.

They kept showing an anti-Catholic cartoon printed by Protestants many, many years ago as though it were portraying something that actually happened. It crudely showed a person reaching under the chair from the side to examine the pope.

When they showed a picture of the chair it didn’t even have an opening on the side.

ABC has jumped on the bandwagon for really sinking low in this anti-Catholic slanted programming.

I will pray for them and try not to get upset, as that is counter-productive. Remember, Jesus said we will be hated because of him.
 
After the hype and infamous of DaVinci Code, ABC thought it can do the same with Pope Joan myth. It’s the trend of the time! More to shoot down the Catholic Church.
 
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Anti-Catholicism goes “Primetime” …
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Now there’s what I would call a book title, or at least one for a very good article in some well regarded orthodox Catholic publication…
 
I sent the following to the Catholic League catholicleague.org/feedbackii.htm
We have recently seen the Catholic League threaten a boycott of Wal Mart over the use of “Christmas.” But Wal Mart’s omission of the customary greeting was not anti-Catholic.

ABC and Diane Sawyer clearly produced an anti-Catholic program about “Pope Joan.” Why does the Catholic League not declare a boycott of the sponsors of that program?

Now, the sponsors will say, “We have no control of the programming.” The response to that is, “You knew the time slot when your commercials would be aired, and you knew what program would be showing then. It is your responsibility to ensure your ad money doesn’t support this kind of bigotry.”
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